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Who didn’t see this coming?
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Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 28, 2022, 6:57 PM



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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 28, 2022, 7:01 PM

That wont happen. He did say some crazy shyatt and did tgrow catch up on the walls and broke the china in anger. Dude is a mess. You have to admit that 60-70% of non Q people would take DeSantis over Trump.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 28, 2022, 7:05 PM



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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 28, 2022, 8:33 PM

You say that, yet you rush to his defense like a good little foot soldier. You are clearly trauma bonded. Bless your heart.

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Speaking of trauma, did T-Rump "grab you by the #####"?***


Jun 28, 2022, 11:53 PM



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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 7:27 AM [ in reply to Re: Who didn’t see this coming? ]


You say that, yet you rush to his defense like a good little foot soldier. You are clearly trauma bonded. Bless your heart.


Why are you and all the Libs so obsessed with Trump when your president Biden is destroying the American economy and is one of the most racist men to ever walk the halls of Congress? The only way you can say he's not racist today, is because he doesn't have the mental capacity to remember which is even more obscene.

Keep on with the Trump Trooper and Soldier belief and name calling, stay focused on Trump, try to destroy a former POTUS (and for what - mean tweets?) and what you'll discover is that you all are being passed by. Suddenly, there will be a new GOP government in place without Trump because you all fell for it.

BTW, bring something more to the table than just calling people Trump Soldiers and Troopers. Do you have any other capabilites and thoughts or are you just a good little Socialist Trooper for the Dems?

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 7:54 AM

You should up your game rather than crying about how you're getting slapped around with the utterly pathetic MUST PROTECT DADDY routine.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 9:47 AM

It won't be long and you'll be back in the hole suckling Mama Hillary's teet for relief. Soldier on Socialist.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 7:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Who didn’t see this coming? ]

This 3rd world country is coming apart at the seams, and the Dem jokers + 2 RINO's are wasting time on the J6 crap. As Dems always do, they overplay their hand and the end of the rake is once again gonna smack them in their empty little heads ... where Trump lives, rent free. What a hoot!

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 7:56 AM

So triggered. LOL

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 28, 2022, 7:24 PM [ in reply to Re: Who didn’t see this coming? ]

Pulled a Hillary, did he?

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So THIs bs story is the biggest testimony they had


Jun 28, 2022, 7:47 PM

Today?
Just lol

This is Russian collusion all over again.
Foaming at the mouths

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Mrs. Vindman***


Jun 28, 2022, 8:21 PM



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Re: Mrs. Vindman***


Jun 28, 2022, 8:36 PM

Vindman is a decorated soldier , purple heart recipient, who has testified under oath. Trump is a draft dodger on Truth Social. Lol..

#SoBroken

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Re: Mrs. Vindman***


Jun 29, 2022, 9:48 AM

??????????????

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Re: Mrs. Vindman***


Jun 29, 2022, 9:52 AM [ in reply to Re: Mrs. Vindman*** ]

And you forgot to mention liar basking in 15 minutes of fame. When will the book come out?

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Re: Mrs. Vindman***


Jun 29, 2022, 2:41 PM

These J6 hearings are triggering your delusions just like they are for Miura. Did you ever think you would take the word of a draft dodging wuss on Truth Social over that of a purple heart veteran under oath? ?? ?? ?? ??

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If you watched/listened to her testimony and came...


Jun 29, 2022, 7:30 AM [ in reply to So THIs bs story is the biggest testimony they had ]

away thinking it was no big deal, then I think you're nutz.

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Re: If you watched/listened to her testimony and came...


Jun 29, 2022, 9:01 AM

There is a zero percent chance that any of these ding dongs will ever sit through her testimony. Their brains would asplode.

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If the lead agent and the limo driver want to testify,


Jun 28, 2022, 8:38 PM

I would think the Committee would love to get them under oath and ask them lots of questions.

The Secret Service has fought this kind of testimony in the past. Now that they have volunteered it, I would imagine the Committee will take them up on it.

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Really...? Come on, man...***


Jun 28, 2022, 11:54 PM



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She also said she was told that Trump grabbed around


Jun 28, 2022, 8:39 PM

the driver's clavicles. Whether any or all of it is true or not, or whether it is rebutted after the fact, outside of the hearings won't matter. The committee is painting the picture they want to paint and that's what people will see.

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


Re: She also said she was told that Trump grabbed around


Jun 28, 2022, 8:46 PM



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There may be method to her madness... This, that,... Oops!***


Jun 28, 2022, 9:22 PM



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The refuting is triple hearsay compared to her...


Jun 29, 2022, 1:21 PM [ in reply to Re: She also said she was told that Trump grabbed around ]

testimony under oath.

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Re: The refuting is triple hearsay compared to her...


Jun 29, 2022, 2:31 PM



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For who to be under oath?***


Jun 29, 2022, 3:57 PM



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Commies lie. Shocker.***


Jun 28, 2022, 11:48 PM



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So now Cassidy Hutchinson is a communist?


Jun 29, 2022, 12:15 AM

LOL.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Of course, she worked for Ted Cruise, Scalise, and Trump....


Jun 29, 2022, 7:40 AM

clear communist

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Political operatives in DC don’t share the beliefs of their employers.


Jun 29, 2022, 7:46 AM [ in reply to So now Cassidy Hutchinson is a communist? ]

(Necessarily).

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So, on what basis do you declare her a communist?***


Jun 29, 2022, 1:13 PM



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the fact that's she's lying to support the deep state***


Jun 29, 2022, 4:01 PM



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And you know she's lying how exactly??***


Jun 29, 2022, 4:04 PM



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People like you say she's telling the truth.***


Jun 29, 2022, 4:10 PM



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I very much believe that...you seem to form all..


Jun 29, 2022, 8:02 PM

your opinions based on what other people think and you go opposite of logic.

I don't know if she's telling the truth on that or not. What I do think is that she appeared credible to me. What is fact is she was under oath.

Now, of the SS agent comes out and refutes her claims then so be it.

What about the rest of her testimony? Other than you not liking the ppl that believe her is there any other reason you wouldn't believe it? How about Bob Barr?

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I figured it was about time for the deep state boogeyman to make an appearance.


Jun 29, 2022, 11:07 PM [ in reply to the fact that's she's lying to support the deep state*** ]

So typical.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Ornato and Engel both testified before the committee***


Jun 29, 2022, 12:32 AM



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Re: Ornato and Engel both testified before the committee***


Jun 29, 2022, 12:40 AM



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Probably previous, but "Don't show it; never happened."***


Jun 29, 2022, 12:58 AM



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Good luck with that!


Jun 29, 2022, 12:59 AM [ in reply to Re: Ornato and Engel both testified before the committee*** ]

Fwiw, Ornato is seen as a Trump enabler, not a very credible witness.

https://twitter.com/FordJohnathan5/status/1541931217741905922?t=wnDj5rBy1fOwvkm4E9Oojw&s=19

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Choose your questions wisely... "We don't know what we don't know"***


Jun 29, 2022, 1:01 AM



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Re: Good luck with that!


Jun 29, 2022, 1:10 AM [ in reply to Good luck with that! ]



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Re: Good luck with that!


Jun 29, 2022, 1:12 AM



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Re: Good luck with that!


Jun 29, 2022, 9:03 AM

Seems like you're ok with hearsay when it supports your beliefs and hopes.

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I get the point y'all are making


Jun 29, 2022, 1:15 AM [ in reply to Re: Good luck with that! ]

But no way this committee asks those questions without having corroborating witnesses. Everything they've done has been methodical, they're not going to risk things on a single witness describing something they don't really care about. As good a story as this was, they don't care about grabbing a steering wheel or assaulting a USSS agent. This was like the eighth most important part about today's hearing.

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Re: I get the point y'all are making


Jun 29, 2022, 1:26 AM



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None of it happened.***


Jun 29, 2022, 7:45 AM [ in reply to I get the point y'all are making ]



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Re: I get the point y'all are making


Jun 29, 2022, 9:11 AM [ in reply to I get the point y'all are making ]

For realz.

They're being incredibly methodical and careful...and they know perfectly well a major misstep, and it's their credibility. Trumpworld's always been extremely good at taking a single missed apostrophe and making it the whole story...hey, there's this typo here, so the whole phone book is wrong.

They wouldn't have gone on this without multiple corroborating accounts.

The deafening silence on the rest is...kind of awe-inspiring. Not a peep from anywhere. Well, except for Eric Hirschman, who's apparently quibbling with Hutchinson over who actually wrote a memo. She says it was her who put pen to paper, while taking dictation from him, he says he wrote it himself. But the handwriting does appear to be hers, so....

Considering the level of detail on about several hundred of her other statements, that's still a pretty durn minor quibble.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 7:25 AM

This all reminds me of the ridiculous whistleblower and Ukraine.

A hearsay whistleblower came forward and said that trump withheld aid to Ukraine in return for investigations into sketchy hunter Biden. The old quid pro quo.

Trump released the tapes and there was no quid pro quo. Zelensky even admitted that he had no clue that the aid was even withheld. In other words, there was never a quid pro quo. He did ask for investigations, but they were obviously warranted. The crackhead was already under investigation by the fbi for his foreign business dealings.

The impeachment crew then pivoted that a whitehouse visit was the quid pro quo and that wasn't true either.

Joke.

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I agree, that was all pretty ridiculous.***


Jun 29, 2022, 11:10 PM



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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


So you think she's lying...about everything?....


Jun 29, 2022, 7:29 AM

I watched all of her testimony last night.

She seems pretty credible to me. If (and I think that's a big if) the secret service came out an refuted her claim about Trump trying to grab the wheel...what about all of the other things she testified to seeing and hearing?

It was pretty damning.

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Re: So you think she's lying...about everything?....


Jun 29, 2022, 9:14 AM

The steering wheel bit was entertaining but probably the least important new fact we got yesterday, don't you think?

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Of course...I listened to whole thing and I had...


Jun 29, 2022, 1:16 PM

forgotten about that part.

It unbelievable that someone could listen to that and not be alarmed at what she says was going on while the capital was being invaded.

There were 5+ things she talked about that were a heck of a lot more important/alarming than Trump trying to grab the steering wheel.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 8:59 AM

T3, just to be clear, you're believing an unnamed source "close to" the secret service (i.e. not even employed by them?) rather than a Republican White House official who testified under oath.

Hey, maybe the unnamed source is right and the named under-oath witness is wrong. We'll see. But you cannot plausibly conclude that it "turns out" her testimony was wrong. And by the way, the driver who was attacked was in the room with her during the "hearsay."

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 9:09 AM

Agreed, but it was my understanding of hearing it directly from her yesterday that it was Engle, not the driver, that was grabbed and he in fact was in the room and did not refute what the Dep. Chief of Staff said about the incident. Additional testimony may clear this up. All she did was relay the story that was told to her at the time. Does not have any impact on the rest of her story, unless one is in the Trump cult and will only ever believe what comes directly from the ##### mouth.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 9:13 AM

That's correct. The driver's presence in the room is a form of admission, however, insofar as he could have corrected the story but didn't.

There's a related lawyer trick: Make a statement to your adversary that you believe is true, and give them the opportunity to dispute it. If they don't dispute it when given the opportunity, it may be taken as a tacit admission.

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Re: Who didn’t see this coming?


Jun 29, 2022, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Re: Who didn’t see this coming? ]



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What a total cop out...come on...


Jun 29, 2022, 1:20 PM

you can do better than that, right?

Can you address the points that Spooneye made?

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I bet he was screaming "This is MAGA country!" while


Jun 29, 2022, 10:00 AM [ in reply to Re: Who didn’t see this coming? ]

grabbing for the steering wheel.

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I would pay so much for the video***


Jun 29, 2022, 11:55 AM



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Re: I bet he was screaming "This is MAGA country!" while


Jun 29, 2022, 11:59 AM [ in reply to I bet he was screaming "This is MAGA country!" while ]

I believe it did go down exactly that way, yes.

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