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Ultimate Tiger [38788]
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Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 8:18 AM
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if you’re invested in index funds that track the S&P you’ve officially had 7 months of gains wiped out, solely because of Trump’s ultimately pointless and inflationary tariff threats. Trump’s trade policy uncertainty is economic cancer, and his campaign promise to address cost of living was thrown straight out the window.
I look forward to hearing about how happy Trump supporters are to be losing money and how this shift from 20%+ annual gains straight into a bear market is a good thing.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-he-couldnt-care-less-if-car-prices-go-up-b9b4a211?mod=mhp
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Tiger Titan [48500]
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"You should invest better like in my made-up portfolio!"
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Mar 31, 2025, 8:34 AM
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"This is somehow good for the long term!"
"Derp derp tariffs are taxes on other countries..."
There, I saved the MAGAs some response time.
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Tiger Titan [48500]
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The leopard is eating a lot of faces lately.***
Mar 31, 2025, 7:59 PM
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Orange Elite [5410]
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The good thing long term for Democrats is that this is going to teach
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Mar 31, 2025, 8:50 AM
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a generation that the Republicans do not understand how the economy works.
Now if we can just maintain free elections to allow those voters to matter.
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Ultimate Tiger [38788]
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Re: The good thing long term for Democrats is that this is going to teach
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Mar 31, 2025, 8:53 AM
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Respectfully, anti-trade, pro-tariff, anti-NATO, pro-isolationism isn’t a feature of Republicans, this is unique to the cult of personality around the egomaniacal buffoon in the White House.
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Clemson Icon [24717]
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Do you see any Republicans with the courage to stand against the implementation
Mar 31, 2025, 9:54 AM
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of any of these issues/positions/policies? If they are unwilling to stand up or speak out, then they may as well not exist.
Perhaps it used to be true, but not any longer.
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Re: Do you see any Republicans with the courage to stand against the implementation
Mar 31, 2025, 12:52 PM
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I did see Rubio rolls his a eyes a couple of times.
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Top TigerNet [30388]
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There is some guy on here that makes money no matter what the market does
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Mar 31, 2025, 9:05 AM
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You should reach out to him.
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 9:05 AM
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The futures aren't looking too good either.
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Ultimate Tiger [38788]
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 9:15 AM
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Just everyone getting excited for Liberation Day on Wed!
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 11:10 AM
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That’ll teach the globalist MIC warmongerers a lesson
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TigerNet Icon [151916]
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Sounds like somebody didn't buy NVIDIA in 2008.
Mar 31, 2025, 9:48 AM
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That's the only way to ensure your portfolio outperforms the market every single year. No such thing as a loss if you made that purchase.
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Re: Sounds like somebody didn't buy NVIDIA in 2008.
Mar 31, 2025, 12:53 PM
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Even it’s down for the day
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
Mar 31, 2025, 9:57 AM
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Market downturns are never fun for anyone. But did you honestly think 20% returns were going to continue indefinitely? Does history teach you that? I’m not going to debate all the why reasons for the current decline and yes, markets are spooked right now. But thinking we just have double digit returns with no corrections is just not realistic.
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I would pay money to read what you would write if Kamala were President right
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Mar 31, 2025, 10:00 AM
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now…
Oh wait, she wouldn’t be doing the stupid #### happening right now so it wouldn’t be happening.
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: I would pay money to read what you would write if Kamala were President right
Mar 31, 2025, 1:06 PM
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Well some history will tell you what I would say and do. We had a bear market in 2022 under Biden and I bought a bunch of stocks when the market was down. You know why? Well, because that’s just kind of the way it is with the stock market. When people are in panic, ticked off, whatever, buy!!
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All-Time Great [88566]
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rofl***
Mar 31, 2025, 1:08 PM
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: rofl***
Mar 31, 2025, 1:21 PM
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You don’t believe I bought stocks during the bear market of 22? Well, ok.
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 10:04 AM
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I’m not going to debate all the why reasons for the current decline and yes, markets are spooked right now.
Yeah, if I was a Trumper, I'd avoid that debate as well.
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 10:51 AM
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Apparently, setting Tariff policies at 1 AM on Truth Social and maybe or maybe not backing off them seems erratic and spooks rationally minded institutional traders that drive the market.
But hey, once we have a full blown trade war with the rest of the world, are at full on war in the middle east, have made Canada and Red, White, and Blue land number 51 and 52 we will be great again as a country and I believe it will be smooth sailing in Trump's 3rd term.
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Ring of Honor [21586]
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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Mar 31, 2025, 11:29 AM
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I have about $22K in Wal-Mart as one of the conservative-side anchors on my barbell strategy - the wild half is mostly invested in Oklo because it'll make something like 100x if I'm right about what it is, but if you're going to invest in a moonshot, I say, shoot for the moon, baby! - and even freakin' Wal-Mart has taken a beating. I mean, this has historically been one of the safest and most boring stocks on Planet Earth, with steady gains going back to 1972, and it peaked at an all-time high of $105.01 back in December.
It's down to $86.36 as of five minutes ago. And this is a stock that's supposed to get better when recessions hit because everybody tightens their belt and buys cheaper, and two-thirds of their supply chain is American. But I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a "safe" stock anymore with the Twitchy Tariffer's tiny-tiny hands rabbit-punching random tariff buttons because it's going to hammer even the low-end retail.
If somebody's got a play other than "ride it out, and hope a piece of SkyLab lands on him", I'd love to hear it. You know, from the people who actually invest.
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i think a negative income investment strategy
Mar 31, 2025, 1:06 PM
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on, well, almost everything. Walmart and Amazon have been screaming from the bell tower. Consumer sentiment is low. I imagine a run on a smaller brokerage like Robin-hood would get this party started. I am fetching my shovel.
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Game Changer [1885]
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Can Trumps people just tell him we tariffed
Mar 31, 2025, 11:40 AM
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everyone and then just not actually do it? I feel like that’s the best route to go. He could still tweet about how tough he is, and inflation wouldn’t go up. Win-win. Just nobody tell him.
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Clemson Conqueror [11326]
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That would've worked with Biden. Trump might notice.***
Mar 31, 2025, 11:44 AM
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Top TigerNet [30124]
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this is a weird way to say thank you
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Mar 31, 2025, 12:09 PM
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for a good buying opportunity
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Ultimate Tiger [38788]
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Re: this is a weird way to say thank you
Mar 31, 2025, 12:43 PM
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The bear market is good for the 403b but impossible to day trade.
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Clemson Conqueror [11326]
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Actually, my portfolio is not plummeting nearly as much today as it has been...***
Mar 31, 2025, 12:09 PM
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Re: Actually, my portfolio is not plummeting nearly as much today as it has been...***
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Mar 31, 2025, 12:12 PM
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Yeah pretty flat since open, the big drop happened AH last night. More and more these days seems like big movements happen premarket and after hours with flat intraday trading. Some fuckery going on for sure.
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Re: Actually, my portfolio is not plummeting nearly as much today as it has been...***
Mar 31, 2025, 12:44 PM
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After hours markets tend to have more price volatility due to lower liquidity and wider spreads. This is not unusual.
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Here is a 5 year trend
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Mar 31, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Notice anything? Personally about a year ago I started shifting from Stocks to Bonds. A couple of weeks ago, I started shifting back. Little jumps not big jumps. My investment strategy on stocks is more conservative than the S&P. Downs don't hurt as much and ups are as good.
Protectionism and raising taxes has historically been a democrat thing. Although they would rather raise taxes on American corporations than tariffs. The short term results are similar. Long term with this help American companies and American jobs? We'll see.
Apparently you had to sell in a bear market. That's too bad. It seems like a buying opportunity to me because of how strong some of the rest of the economy is.
Maybe we can get a President in there that will give us 20% gains every year forever. Not likely.
Do you think a Harris presidency would have given us 4 years of 20% gains? Is inflation part of your analysis? What is better 2% inflation and a 10% rise in the S&P or 10% inflation with a 20% rise in the S&P.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPC/
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Re: Here is a 5 year trend
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Mar 31, 2025, 2:56 PM
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I think some people actually do believe a president can give us 20% gains forever. Of course a 30 second google of stock market history would tell them how silly that is. I saw this quote a couple days ago, “the stock market is the only place where people run away from a sale”. That is so true!!
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Re: Here is a 5 year trend
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Mar 31, 2025, 4:00 PM
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But you do understand the sell off has been primarily related to Trump's erratic behavior regarding tariffs, right?
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Re: Here is a 5 year trend
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No. That’s not what I’m saying, that’s not what anyone’s saying. I’m drawing a distinction between the factors in the market leading to record gains and the sudden reversal of the trend. Nobody is arguing about historic market trends, or about a “stocks only go up” investing strategy (which I too believe in).
Look, I understand why you’re taking the position about this, I get it. But I don’t think you need to feign being thrilled about going from pushing ATH’s on a daily basis to everyone being back where we were last summer. This is not an organic correction, this has been brought about by policy decisions, and it has cost you, and me, and everyone else participating in the market economy money. You don’t have to be ok with that just because it’ll probably get better.
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Re: Here is a 5 year trend
Mar 31, 2025, 4:40 PM
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I agree that the current political decisions are causing disruptions. But the market was overheated and a correction was coming this year regardless. Will we be better on the back side of this? Time will tell but history and my 4 decades in the market makes me refuse to worry about it.
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
Mar 31, 2025, 5:57 PM
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Keep preaching how bad it is and I'll keep buying dividend stocks low.
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
Mar 31, 2025, 6:03 PM
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Exactly!! Let them all panic. Just look the the market today. Down really bad this morning and they all start barking about the end of the world. Market then rebounds in the afternoon. Why is that? Nothing but knee jerk from the undisciplined. They panic and sell then real investors laugh at them and buy stocks on sale. Rinse and repeat throughout market history and future.
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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The S&P just posted its worst quarter in 4 years. I promise Trump won’t find out and be upset with you if you aren’t happy about it.
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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4 years ? What a disaster!!!
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Re: Congrats everyone, as of 8am this morning
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By the way, I am down 5% from my personal high water mark a few months ago. Pardon me if I refuse to fret over a 5% downturn.
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Ultimate Tiger [38788]
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Tardawg Buffett when Trump costs him 5% of his portfolio
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Paw Warrior [4942]
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Re: Tardawg Buffett when Trump costs him 5% of his portfolio
Mar 31, 2025, 8:47 PM
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No one has “cost “ me a thing.
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Probably news to you but
Mar 31, 2025, 8:03 PM
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These kind of economic disasters affect more than your stock purchases. You can talk big now, but you and people you care about and everyone else is going to feel some pain in the near future.
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