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What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 10:26 AM
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I think 8 or 16 but I like reading the opinions of others
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Jul 17, 2018, 10:28 AM
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Orange Phenom [14588]
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I don't want 16. 8 would be fine***
Jul 17, 2018, 10:30 AM
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Jul 17, 2018, 10:31 AM
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The conference champ from each of the power 5
Last slot for the best team from the other conferences/ independents.
No polls or discussions are needed for 5 of the slots...
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I never thought of it like that.... interesting and good
Jul 17, 2018, 10:32 AM
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You might as well say "SEC at-large team" for Spot #6.***
Jul 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
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110%er [4090]
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Sadly you are probably correct
Jul 17, 2018, 11:10 AM
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well put my friend
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6th spot isn't at an large.. it is the last spot for a conference champ
Jul 17, 2018, 12:02 PM
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From a non power 5.
Only conference champs should get to play for a national title. If that means a 7-6 ACC champ VT gets into the playoffs over a 12-1 Clemson, then so be it.
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Orange Phenom [14588]
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Ugh. I would probably have to quit watching CFB if
Jul 17, 2018, 12:33 PM
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that ever transpired.
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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Re: Ugh. I would probably have to quit watching CFB if
Jul 17, 2018, 3:27 PM
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that ever transpired.
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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That is how playoffs work. Win or go home
Jul 17, 2018, 3:31 PM
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College football already has a nearly complete 1st Rd of playoffs with the conference championship games.
Winning your division gets you into the 1st Rd of the playoffs...winning your conference gets you into the 2nd round.
If winning divisions and conferences don't mean anyyhing, why have them?
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That would last right up until the Pac 12 champ got in
Jul 17, 2018, 11:23 AM
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at 10-3 while a really good 11-1/12-1 team from the Big Ten / ACC / SEC got left at home. I'm all for giving the best G5 team a shot, but outside of that i still support the idea of the "best" teams making the playoff - even when "best" is a bit subjective.
If you want 5 auto-bids for conference champs + 1 bid for the G5, then you really need 8 to include the 2 best at-large teams, at least one of which is likely to be better several other teams in the playoff.
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110%er [4090]
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Eight would get Notre Dame type situations in wouldn't it?
Jul 17, 2018, 11:27 AM
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three at large teams, even if one team is under a preset criteria like the runner-up scenario some have hinted at on here - therefore leaving us with two actual at large teams
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The Notre Dame bull$#!7 needs to end...
Jul 17, 2018, 11:53 AM
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Either join a conference or stay on the outside looking in.
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"Best team" is 100% subjective. ..and contradicts
Jul 17, 2018, 12:06 PM
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A playoff.
"Best team' is the guise the media uses to justify rankings, countdown shows, and most of the fluff programing in college football.
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Re: 6
Jul 17, 2018, 7:45 PM
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The conference champ from each of the power 5
Last slot for the best team from the other conferences/ independents.
No polls or discussions are needed for 5 of the slots...
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As long as Clemson keeps getting in, 4. Whenever Clemson
Jul 17, 2018, 10:34 AM
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gets left out, then I'd say 6 or 8 depending on where Clemson is ranked.
If we are ranked 6, I'd say 6 would be very ideal.
If we are ranked 9, then I'd say honestly, we should probably look at 16 teams.
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Jul 17, 2018, 10:37 AM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 10:39 AM
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I'd say 6 or 8. With all major conference champions getting in. Not that I think the Big 12 or Pac 12 are very good conferences but they deserve to have a spot in the playoffs as well and a best of 5 team having a chance to get in if they end up undefeated like UCF last year. Over the years there has been a few of those that really impressed during bowl games but was left out because of who they played during the regular season. If it's 8 teams it would leave 3 at large bids for teams that did not win their conference.
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I like the floating number approach
Jul 17, 2018, 10:41 AM
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As long as you meet 2 basic requirements:
- No more than 1 loss
- Played for your conference title (if applicable)
Could be 2 ... Could be 10.
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I like the floating number approach - unique, great answer!
Jul 17, 2018, 11:02 AM
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Make it dependent on the success of teams during the season not a set number of teams.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 10:43 AM
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6, with seeds 1 & 2 having 1st round bye.
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Jul 17, 2018, 10:44 AM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 10:58 AM
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8 teams
5 power 5 conference champs
1 Highest ranked from other conferences
2 at-large with no more than 1 per conference (Any undefeated team not already in must be included)
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I like this answer! Well thought out and presented!
Jul 17, 2018, 11:04 AM
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Sounds like what I would like to see
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 11:00 AM
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6 is a good idea. All five Power 5 conferences represented, plus highest ranked Group of 5 team
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 11:20 AM
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Only problem with 6 is the bye scenario. In a 15 game season a bye is too valuable for playoff teams. With the current conference setup and 129 teams it is nearly impossible to judge who are the two best teams and giving the apparent top 2 teams a bye might be self fulfilling, as those teams would win most of the time.
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See Bama last year... Late season bye was BS.***
Jul 17, 2018, 4:26 PM
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There are currently 129 FBS teams...
Jul 17, 2018, 11:00 AM
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who begin each season with aspirations of being one of the final two teams remaining at the end of the season.
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I think you're implying the season IS the playoffs! Good
Jul 17, 2018, 11:06 AM
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perspective that worked for years and years no doubt!!
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While I was being somewhat facetious, I think...
Jul 17, 2018, 11:16 AM
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eight (8) is the right number.
Take each of the Power 5 conference champions, two at-large selections, and possibly a non-Power 5 team.
If there are no solid non-Power 5 candidates in a particular year, you take another at-large selection.
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110%er [4090]
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This has been a popular, well thought out suggestion! Sounds
Jul 17, 2018, 11:22 AM
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like a winner to me as well. Many on here sound great but I like this the best
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8: Every power 5 conference champions,
Jul 17, 2018, 11:05 AM
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1 non-power-five team, and 2 at large teams.
Only "fair" solution.
Only way to truly compare conferences is head-to-head match ups.
If a conference champion gets smoked, then so be it. 31 nuthin's gonna happen.
But at least no conference or team would have a legitimate gripe.
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Hard to argue with that! Good point!
Jul 17, 2018, 11:08 AM
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That would be great with me also
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I think that would be fine.***
Jul 17, 2018, 11:26 AM
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6 is incorrect
Jul 17, 2018, 11:10 AM
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that would mean 2 teams get a bye. That is unfair in college football because it's a HUGE advantage to not have played a game and impossible to correctly decide who the 2 bye teams are. multiples of 4 are the only answer. 4, 8, 16, 32, etc.
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Jul 17, 2018, 11:12 AM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 11:49 AM
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If you want a PLAYOFF, then FOUR is your number. If you want a Tournament, then go ahead and allow the 'also-rans' to join in. It isn't that hard to select four teams from which you'll get the Best Team in the land.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 11:50 AM
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Sixteen. All division one conference champions, and five at large berths.
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That's just too many IMO. There's no reason
Jul 17, 2018, 12:36 PM
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to include teams that have no chance of actually winning and if you include 16 teams there are certainly going to be quite a few teams that are incapable of winning 4 games. Also, i can't see 17 game CFB seasons happening so where do you start cutting games? 11 game regular season and no conference championship games? 10 regular season games?
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Re: That's just too many IMO. There's no reason
Jul 17, 2018, 1:43 PM
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I've always believed every Saturday is anything can happen Saturday. There would be upsets, and Cinderella teams, just like the basketball tournament. The regular season would have to be shortened, of course, maybe by one game. How does Division II do it? They've had a playoff for as long as I remember.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 12:46 PM
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8 if you take 5 Conf Champs. But my ideal scenario is 10 Div Champs plus 1 Non P5 and 3 at large. Top 4 get byes, play in games in place of Conf Champs, 1st Sat in Dec and 8 team playoff starting Sat after/on Christmas and New Years, championship on a Monday night. This only adds 1 more game. If number of games is still a problem, drop 12th game FCS games but split some TV money with those schools to make up for lost game.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 12:42 PM
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4
ACC Champ
B1G Champ
SEC Champ
Champs of Big 12 and Pac 12 play each other on Conference Champion weekend to decide who goes.
Have the group of 5 do thier own parallel championship games.
Everyone knows exactly what the have to do to get in before the season even starts. If a conference doesn't like who the send they can always adjust how they determine their champion.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 12:45 PM
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I like 4. It doesn't seem like any team past that has a realistic shot to beat the best team.
I've thought about having 6 with the 1 and 2 seed getting a bye, like NFL playoffs. But that's just too many games to ask these kids to play in a season IMO
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Re: 6***
Jul 17, 2018, 12:47 PM
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Jul 17, 2018, 1:58 PM
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It's fine at 4.
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4...15 games is already too many for "student athletes"***
Jul 17, 2018, 3:31 PM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 3:34 PM
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4 is fine with me... They could play with 6... have first round be seeds 3-6. 1-2 get a buy.
5 Conference champs and 1 at-large.
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8 - Conf champs from the Big 5 conferences and 3 at-large***
Jul 17, 2018, 3:38 PM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 5:22 PM
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6.... 5 power conf winners + at large... Committee meets and determines 1-6...1&2 get bye... 3 plays 6, 4plays 5..then 1 plays winner of 4-5 and 2 plays winner of 3-6...then championship game.
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 5:33 PM
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Re: What is the ideal number of teams for the best CFB playoff?
Jul 17, 2018, 5:36 PM
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8. Five conference champions and three wildcards. Quarterfinals played at home of top 4 seeds then neutral sites for semifinals and finals.
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Jul 17, 2018, 5:53 PM
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Jul 17, 2018, 7:38 PM
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First I’d like to say that there are some pretty good ideas/responses on this thread for sure. Those adamant about staying at 4 I’m sure will feel differently the minute clemson finishes at #5 or 6.
I think all conferences should dump their cupcake games and also play the same amount of conference games. There are P5 conferences that play 9 league games and are not allowed to schedule FCS opontmet (no matter if they are in state or not)
Doing this would allow for a 6-8 team playoff, provide more good games in the regular season, and have more parody when comparing playoff contenders. 6-8 team playoff would have conference champs as a lock, and then include some dang good teams that maybe had an extra hiccup early in the season like a USC last year but on fire at the end of the season. I think this would help ensure that no one is unfairly rewarded for an easy schedule or punished for a hard one.
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Jul 17, 2018, 7:44 PM
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6 teams in the CFP. The top 2 teams get a first round bye then 3 v. 4 & 5 v. 6 Then it goes to current format. If both of the top 2 teams win then no team plays more than 2 rounds as the 2 lower tier winners. That would be the most probable outcome statistically.
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