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FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:08 PM
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All-TigerNet [11170]
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i sell beer all the time at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:13 PM
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seems to work fine
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i keep a seperate cooler for "sponge beer"***
Aug 21, 2015, 4:21 PM
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what is "sponge beer"?***
Aug 21, 2015, 5:20 PM
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Re: what is "sponge beer"?***
Aug 21, 2015, 10:23 PM
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I believe it refers to someone who drinks fallen soldiers
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i make them prove they are 16 or older first***
Aug 21, 2015, 4:42 PM
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I really hope this never happens in my life time
Aug 21, 2015, 4:20 PM
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The only time I've seen issues with too much drinking is at bowl games. I would think everyone could go 3 and half hours without a drink, or use the pass out if you must have another drink. Is having a poor quality draft beer at a cost of 6 to 8 dollars really that important to those of you who support this idea? I understand that they project the profits to be around 1 million dollars, but is it worth the negative impact and isn't there other ways to find a million dollars?
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Re: I really hope this never happens in my life time
Aug 21, 2015, 4:29 PM
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Agreed! Beer is the last thing we need to sell. There are already enough stupid drunks who are over the limit on game day in the first place. Does Clemson want the liability in the event of a death or serious injury? Hope the BOT puts a lid on this idea. What different fans do outside the Valley is hard enough to be monitored by law enforcement. Fans have plenty to watch for traffic wise as it is now.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Agree***
Aug 21, 2015, 4:55 PM
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Re: Agree***
Aug 21, 2015, 9:41 PM
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Serving alcohol to two enemies and have them setting on the same bench together expecting a friendship to come between them is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I said no to serving alcohol inside DV years ago, and I'm firmer with my no answer now than I was way back then....
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There's a good bit of evidence that consumption goes down
Aug 21, 2015, 4:47 PM
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when beer and wine are sold openly and legally than when all alcohol is contraband. This has definitely been the experience at West Virginia and elsewhere. It is common sense, really. If you are smuggling it in, it is far more efficient to smuggle in small amounts of high-test. And if you are smart, you are going to be knocking it back and not sipping it.
Also, many southerners (particularly in the cooler months) are known to drink that brown liquor at their tailgate. Now, if you're going to be enjoying beer or wine once you're in the stadium, you may be less likely to be consuming Wild Turkey 101 (or even a nice 16 year old Single Malt) in the parking lot before the game. And once you are in the stadium, the amount of legal beer or wine you can consume can be tightly regulated (2 or 3 drink maximum, stop sales at end of 3rd quarter, etc.)
I believe that what DRad may be saying though is that any in-stadium sales would mean the end of "pass outs" at halftime or at any other time. It could also mean tighter restrictions on parking lot consumption after the game for liability reasons. So, while I think in-stadium beer and wine sales could mean significantly less drunkenness at games and more money for the program, I know more than a few Clemson fans who are not ready for an end to "pass outs" at halftime or a ban on drinking in the lots after the game...
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Re: Leave it Is. I d rink, myself, but drunks can not be
Aug 21, 2015, 5:00 PM
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controlled. We don't need this type of behavior at Clemson. It is bad enough as it is.
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you could probably find a statistic somewhere to support
Aug 21, 2015, 5:06 PM
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whatever side you are on. i personally would rather not have alcohol there. i love beer, probably a little too much....to the point of a 12 step program, true drunks are not going to go into the stadium looking to get blitzed, that has and will always be done pre game. most people can drink responsibly, not me. like i said, there surely is some statistic or equation of beer sales v/s extra police, v/s revenue, etc that will prove your point.
obviously people with alcohol problems are more than just a social issue. i will say this, however. my seats are in south upper deck, and usually once or twice a year there will be an issue (usually at a night game) where someone within my section or adjacent sections is escorted out of the stadium. maybe once a season i sit in the west end zone and about 75% of the time there is some sot of issue with alcohol. be it an obnoxious fan, a spilled beer on me, or someone being escorted out. the ratio to alcohol related issues is much higher in the WEZ...but i truly don't think that selling beer will make a ton of difference one way or the other. people who like to drink, will drink. obnoxious drunks will be obnoxious, no matter if alcohol is sold or not.
However, between bowl games, WEZ, ACC championship games, etc. i have seen FAR less alcohol issues in my normal Clemson season tickets than special events. not saying legal alcohol sales is the reason, it may be a simple coincidence, but personally selling alcohol is not worth it.
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Depends on if you are "for" or "against" ...
Aug 21, 2015, 5:30 PM
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... if you are "against" West Virginia is probably a great example.
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Re: I went to one of our games at the dome in Atlanta and
Aug 21, 2015, 4:55 PM
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had several Clemson students a few rows behind me who were drinking irresponsibly. I don't mine anyone having a beer or two if they don't show their aese. These immature kids were an embarrassment to the people sitting around us. One was actually vomiting before the game was over. NO, BUT HECK NO.
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Re: I really hope this never happens in my life time
Aug 22, 2015, 1:03 AM
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As someone who just had an entire beer spilled on them at a Luke Bryan concert, I could not agree more!
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:21 PM
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Disappointing with AD and Athletic Dept. nothing ever said about fan safety by this AD and past ADs. Getting into stadium and leaving is a dangerous adventure due to moving vehicles.
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They really need to build several
Aug 21, 2015, 4:25 PM
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elevated cross walks around the stadium and campus to help with this issue. They need at least 6 close to the stadium. The city and Clemson could easily get a federal grant to cover most of the cost of the project.
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Re:' federal grant''???. Dang man, that is the problem with
Aug 21, 2015, 5:03 PM
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now.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 10:18 PM
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I think people may actually drink less if it's sold at the games. it's my belief that alcoholics drink as much as they can before games and at halftime because they know that they'll have to go without during the game.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 22, 2015, 1:25 AM
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This is the biggest reason. Alcohol revenues aren't going to be that significant in the grand scheme of things - maybe a few hundred thousand a year. Most studies have shown that people drink less when there's alcohol available in the stadium. The biggest issue with drunks at Clemson isn't the liquor brought into the stadium; it's the huge number who chug 3/4 of a solo cup of bourbon immediately prior to entering the game.
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Isn't at South Carolina law
Aug 21, 2015, 4:22 PM
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that you can't sell alkihawl at a amateur sports event?
Siriusly thought I heard that somewhere.
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Naw....you must have been intoxicated.***
Aug 21, 2015, 4:26 PM
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They sell beer when the baseball team plays in the Drive's
Aug 21, 2015, 5:04 PM
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stadium....they sold beer at the Bi-lo when we played Illinois there as well
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They're selling beer @West Virginia games???
Aug 21, 2015, 4:26 PM
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Already experienced that unique phenomenon in Miami---I foresee numerous problems in the immediate future.
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But is beer sales as good as matches and lighters sales to
Aug 21, 2015, 4:40 PM
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burn up all those sofas after their wins at home?
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:39 PM
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Beer sales in DV would be a big mistake. If you dont believe it just go to an NFL game. Overserved drunks make it very difficult to take kids to a game. There is plenty to drink at the tailgate.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:45 PM
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I will provide free beer. But you must buy the bottle or container for it from me.
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Let's keep all the really drunk folks in the boxes where
Aug 21, 2015, 4:47 PM
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they can only bother people they invite.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 4:51 PM
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WVU and Maryland are the last two venues that need to be selling beer during a game.
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Re And S Car. and NCS***
Aug 21, 2015, 5:07 PM
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That's JUST what Merryland needs . . .
Aug 21, 2015, 5:13 PM
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MORE fuel for them to be complete a-holes.
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can you imagine the bathroom lines then
Aug 21, 2015, 5:15 PM
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I'm okay with it but the lines are already bad enough, maybe they have plans to expand the restrooms as well.
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I wonder what the boy's mamas would think about beer sales?
Aug 21, 2015, 5:27 PM
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We really ought to consider a broad view before we go into something like that. It seems to me there's a chance the environment might be contaminated which may be a decision maker for some parents.
No beer sales hasn't hurt our turnout yet and those who would make the selling of beer a factor in whether or not they attend games are certainly not that into Clemson Football.
Picked off at first again, waytago BOT.
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Why? It hasn't inhibited success so far. Ain't broke you ...
Aug 21, 2015, 5:46 PM
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Don't need to fix it!
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 5:50 PM
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In case you didn't know. Beer liquor wine its all over the west end zone. I mean in the west end zone club. I have toured it and have seen the closet with all the lockers were the people keep there alcohol. Its all legal. In fact Clemson provides the ice and mixers. So its already in the stadium.
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I love beer, but No.
Aug 21, 2015, 5:56 PM
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It would change the entire atmosphere. I can wait and enjoy the game.
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hopefully this will never happen ever...
Aug 21, 2015, 6:24 PM
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Been to one NFL game, and the behavior by the high number of binge drinkers ruin the experience. I'm open minded, but I like an environment where kids don't have to see drunken violent behavior and obscenities being hurled all game.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 7:42 PM
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No to beer at our games! I've been to pro games, and they sell beer. It is not a family atmosphere! I saw way more roudiness and hear way more profanity than at Clemson games. Thank you to our university for not allowing it!
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 21, 2015, 8:10 PM
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Dan, does Clemson University really need the money so badly that you are willing to destroy the great in-stadium experience? Do you want your grandson or grandaughter sitting next to a beer swilling drunk? Oh, I forgot, you sit in one of the air-conditionedd boxes. You need to think about the fans in the stands who make up the vast majority of fans before you radically change what is arguably one of the best game day experiences in college football.
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M.A.D.D.***
Aug 21, 2015, 10:04 PM
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Re: M.A.D.D.***
Aug 21, 2015, 11:26 PM
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I think enough alcohol is consumed prior to the game. If one can't go without a beer for a few hours, maybe they should spend their time at AA and forget the football games!
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 22, 2015, 12:43 AM
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No beer sales...leave at halftime...best tradition in the country...don't screw it up...need more revenue? Add $5 to each parking pass and $1 to every ticket... Those two would crush any beer sales and keep the gates open to come and go as you please. Don't mess with a good thing.
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Those of you worried about the "family atmosphere"
Aug 22, 2015, 1:39 AM
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are greatly underestimating the many intoxicated people at tailgates before and after the game. Those same people are in the stadium for the game too, and 99% of them act fine.
I certainly don't want to ruin our reputation as great fans with a great stadium atmosphere, but I also don't feel that selling alcohol in the stadium will change that.
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Its not like you cant sneak whatever you want into the game anyway. Clemson always had
Aug 22, 2015, 8:39 AM
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a "wink, wink, nod, nod" attitude toward booze in the stadium. as long as youre not stolling in with a handle of whiskey and a funnel. On the other hand, going into Jordan Hare is like is like going through a TSA screening. If you want to put a few of miny bottles in your pocket at clemson youll be fine.
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Re: Its not like you cant sneak whatever you want into the game anyway. Clemson always had
Aug 22, 2015, 8:42 AM
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Beer at Death Valley ? No . That is for tailgating only IMO . If you start selling brews inside the stadium , you get people showing up for the wrong reasons .
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 22, 2015, 9:25 AM
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The selling of beer at Clemson games??
My Humble opinion: we are a Clemson! We are class! We are a family!
We don't need to "sell our souls" for another "revenue stream".
Keep Death Valley (inside the stadium) Alcohol free!! It would tarnish everything good that Clemson stands for.
And we are BETTER than that!!
Go Tigers!!
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 22, 2015, 3:03 PM
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I agree 100%. I remember when we would get "bug juice" from the cafeteria, mix it with grain alcohol and smuggle it into the games. Over about 56 years I've mature a little bit. Let's keep the beer outside at tailgate parties.
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Love the idea!
Aug 22, 2015, 3:16 PM
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Not all of us are high rollers parked five seconds from the stadium so the halftime leaving makes no sense for me. I am not an alcoholic either but having a cold brew or two during the game would be great. I will let security deal with the drunks just like any other game.
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Re: FB Update: Radakovich discusses idea of selling Beer at Clemson games
Aug 22, 2015, 3:22 PM
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I'm in the beer business and drink a lot at the tailgate. I kinda like being able to go in the game to yell and sober up. Piling more alcohol with emotions never works out well. It should be a better experience than watching grown men drinking themselves into fights and sickness. Leave it in the lot. Too many children on hand.
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Yes, because children never see that in
Aug 22, 2015, 3:26 PM
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the tailgate areas. It is bliss out there.
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Re: Yes, because children never see that in
Aug 22, 2015, 3:33 PM
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The display in the stadium would be embarrassing. Look at NFL games man. That is stupid you can totally control your environment in the tailgate.
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I can't control what other people
Aug 22, 2015, 3:39 PM
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around me tailgating are doing or saying. Can you? I can find security inside the stadium. You sound stupid.
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