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TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:06 AM
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Top TigerNet [30613]
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Is this real ??
Apr 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
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or a really, really late April Fools joke ??
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Paw Warrior [4790]
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The math doesn't work
Apr 30, 2019, 11:23 AM
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There are 130 FBS teams. You'll need 86 of them to win 6+ games. I'd like to see someone explain a scenario where 86 teams can win 6+ games next year, given that they only play 12 games. I guess if everyone finished the regular season 6-6, it's possible. But I just looked at the records for all 130 teams at the end of the season (i.e. after the bowl games) and I only counted 81 teams with 6+ wins.
That said, I'll never complain about more football. I stopped off in Shreveport en route to Dallas to watch the Temple - Duke game. It was awesome. More football is good. I just don't see how it's possible unless they're taking teams with losing records.
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Re: The math doesn't work
Apr 30, 2019, 1:39 PM
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So you're saying there's a Gamecock chance ?
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Dynasty Maker [3438]
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Re: The math doesn't work
Apr 30, 2019, 3:13 PM
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If there is anything worse than playing a game in Boston in November, it's playing a game in Boston in December.
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Re: The math doesn't work
Apr 30, 2019, 3:54 PM
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2 things:
1) 1 of your wins can be FCS, so technically you only need to go 5-6 against the FBS. Or you can go 5-5 with 2 games against FCS (only 1 win counts towards bowl eligibility)
2) They've recently taken 5-7 teams with special approvals by the bowls. This will be more common as more bowls are added
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:10 AM
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as if the annual NYC debacle isnt crappy enough. Unbelivable. Swofford is a complete tool
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Team Captain [481]
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:17 AM
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Boston has always been a hot recruiting bed for football, or not! I assume this will become the annual Boston College Bowl like Hawaii / Aloha Bowl... with the occasional Syracuse or Pitt inclusion.
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all bowls absent the playoff have taken major hits to
Apr 30, 2019, 12:56 PM
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attendance that will continue, but the Pinstripe bowl has been pretty well attended from what I've seen given the capacity and tier bowl. Also, other than this past year, it has been one of the best bowl games as to competitiveness the past 5 or 6 years.
Clemson will never go there unless the wheels fall off but I would love to go to a bowl game in Yankee stadium or Fenway.
The Fenway matchup with the AAC is not appealing but that could change after a few years.
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all bowls absent the playoff have taken major hits to
Apr 30, 2019, 12:59 PM
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attendance that will continue, but the Pinstripe bowl has been pretty well attended from what I've seen given the capacity and tier bowl. Also, other than this past year, it has been one of the best bowl games as to competitiveness the past 5 or 6 years.
Clemson will never go there unless the wheels fall off but I would love to go to a bowl game in Yankee stadium or Fenway.
The Fenway matchup with the AAC is not appealing but that could change after a few years.
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43 bowls!?!?! REALLY!!! Geesh.***
Apr 30, 2019, 11:14 AM
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I know, that's awesome, right?
Apr 30, 2019, 11:33 AM
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More football to watch.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:16 AM
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Figure skating will be the halftime show in lieu of marching bands.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:18 AM
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If this is true re 12 ACC teams in bowl games, some of those team will be going with losing records. Rather than adding more bowls, they need to eliminate a few. They have trouble now finding teams who qualify for the existing bowls and attendance figures at some bowls are embarrassing.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 11:25 AM
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Thank God! We need more bowls.
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Paw Warrior [4790]
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LOL
Apr 30, 2019, 11:32 AM
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I know you were being sarcastic. But, what we really need is to allow scrimmages during the summer. I'd love to watch some college football in July! You could have Clemson vs. Alabama in a scrimmage in July, sell out a stadium and put it on ESPN primetime!
That scrimmage in July would get better ratings than 50% of the current bowls in December.
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Re: LOL
Apr 30, 2019, 12:41 PM
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UofSC to become permanent SEC opponent to ACC under 0.500 bowl teams. That should work.
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Comment on the last line of the article
Apr 30, 2019, 11:30 AM
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saying that by 2020 there will be 43 bowl games.
43 bowl games = 86 bowl teams. As of 2018 there are 130 FBS football teams.
66.2% of them will play in bowls in 2020. My guess is that about 1/4 of those bowls will be forced to take 5-7 teams
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Much to the delight of u of 5c fans.***
Apr 30, 2019, 12:37 PM
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This is stupid.... minor bowls are meaningless now ***
Apr 30, 2019, 11:36 AM
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Top TigerNet [31546]
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Always were
Apr 30, 2019, 11:50 AM
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They've always been only about money and the chance to watch another game between teams who don't usually play each other very often.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 12:04 PM
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Ah yes, December Bowl Game in Boston........The Blizzard Bowl!!!!!
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Campus Hero [13635]
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
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The Blizzard Bowl sponsored by Dairy Queen.....it’s meant to be.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 12:13 PM
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Please come to Boston for the winter...
I'm staying at a hotel and they've got lots of rooms.
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For those wondering if they'll 'start' taking teams with
Apr 30, 2019, 12:31 PM
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losing records...from Wiki concerning the 2018 bowl season...
"The total of 40 team-competitive bowls, including the national championship game, was unchanged from the previous year. To fill the 78 available bowl slots, a total of 10 teams (13% of all participants) with non-winning records (6–6) were invited to bowl games. This was the second consecutive year, and only the third time in eight years, that no teams with losing seasons (6–7 or 5–7) were invited to fill available bowl berths."
This has been going on for a while. Bowls aren't about rewarding a decent season anymore, and haven't been for years. It's about grabbing the entertainment dollar for the cities, the schools, and the sponsors. Hell, let's just send everybody to a bowl and be done with it. Doesn't matter if there's only 100 people in the stands or the teams couldn't beat there way out of a wet paper bag. Nobody seems to care about that.
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Re: For those wondering if they'll 'start' taking teams with
Apr 30, 2019, 12:35 PM
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Would that be like participation trophies?
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CU Guru [1149]
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That's exactly what it is. I'd rather watch NDSU or Wofford
Apr 30, 2019, 12:43 PM
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in the FCS playoffs than another bowl game sponsored by Trojan or Kotex, because that's what it's coming to (pun absolutely intended).
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Top TigerNet [31546]
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As for me, I'm cool with more football to watch
Apr 30, 2019, 1:04 PM
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The chance of a game between two teams who had crappy seasons being entertaining is infinitely higher than if that game was never played.
I see a potential upside (more football for me to watch) and no real downside.
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CU Guru [1149]
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No offense, but therein lies the problem. We live in a
Apr 30, 2019, 1:20 PM
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world that is ok with, and in some cases demands, quantity and convenience over quality. Crappy built houses, crappy built furniture, crappy prepared food,...I could go on. I don't watch most of those teams during the regular season. I doubt seriously I'm going to set my DVR for Central Mich vs UAB, or worse.
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I have to say...
Apr 30, 2019, 1:31 PM
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I'm impressed how you managed to turn a thread about some meaningless bowl game into a discussion about lousy construction and crappy food.
For you newbs, that's how you hi-jack a thread !!!
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CU Guru [1149]
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I didn't hijack anything. I was using that to draw a
Apr 30, 2019, 2:16 PM
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parallel between those things and more crappy bowls. But, nice try there, smart guy.
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No no...well done my friend !!!***
Apr 30, 2019, 3:55 PM
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None taken
Apr 30, 2019, 1:32 PM
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But I might agree with your point if the potentially crappy game somehow diminished the more likely better games. It doesn't. The Southwestern Ohio Lawndart Bowl does nothing to diminish the Orange or Fiesta (etc).
All it does is provide more football with the potential of it being a good game, and honestly I'm just not sure what your perceived downside is.
In your analogy, those crappy things you list are only potential negatives if they replace the good things or make them rarer or fool people into thinking they are on the same "level" of quality.
No one confuses these bowl games with the big boys of bowl season. No one thinks that a 6-6 team that made the Northern Nevada Sandsnake Bowl had the same sort of season that a team which made the Cotton or Rose bowls did.
Again, I just fail to see the downside here.
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Re: None taken
Apr 30, 2019, 4:33 PM
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Rewarding lousy football teams for having bad seasons. These type of bowls fall into the “participation trophy” category for me. A sign of our snowflake times.
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That is one way to look at it
May 1, 2019, 9:30 AM
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Another is that folks/cities/stadiums are investing their money and time in the hopes of putting on a profitable football game, and the players are out there trying to entertain.
If no one watches and no one goes, then the bowl will die off.
But it won't be because of some snowflake participation trophy trope that seems entirely misplaced to me.
Again, I'm just not seeing this societal downside that y'all are harping about.
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Sitting outside in late December in Boston...
Apr 30, 2019, 12:40 PM
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to watch some meaningless third tier bowl game !?!?!
No thanks !!!
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Shouldn't the winners of the Pinstripe and Fenway Bowls
Apr 30, 2019, 1:06 PM
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have to play 7 game series to decide the champ of the Northeast??
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Garbage.***
Apr 30, 2019, 1:09 PM
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 1:35 PM
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Will help with BC's travel budget.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 3:53 PM
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Ya'll are missing the point. It's not about having 43 bowl games and a 5-7 team.
It's that the dang bowl is located north of the Mason Dixon in a town that NO ONE cares about college football.
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Who wants to go to Boston in December?
Apr 30, 2019, 4:25 PM
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They've got to stop having bowl games outdoors in cold climates. And yes, I know it's cold in Charlotte and Nashville, etc. during bowl season, but it's not that cold. Going to a bowl is supposed to be a reward, not punishment.
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12 ACC tie-ins to bowls?
Apr 30, 2019, 4:28 PM
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The ACC will be luck to have 7-8 bowl eligible teams.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 4:42 PM
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Swofford sucks.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 5:19 PM
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I have done the behind scenes tour at Fenway. The locker rooms are tiny for even a MLB baseball team. I am not sure where an 85 man football team would dress for the game without bringing in mobile units, which would have to be parked in the street because there would be no where else to put them. The logistics of that would be a huge pain in the but.
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
Apr 30, 2019, 8:58 PM
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The article says there will be a new bowl in Myrtle Beach?
Coots gonna be mad...that's a further drive than to Charlotte...
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Rival Killer [2964]
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Re: TNET: Report: ACC to add bowl in Fenway Park
May 2, 2019, 11:05 AM
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Really? Another bowl?
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