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You want to mock South African refugees?
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May 12, 2025, 8:14 PM
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Gather 'round for a story.
A few years back I hired a kid from Zimbabwe. Turns out about 15 years ago they were forced to leave their sugar cane farm their family had for six generations because they were white farmers. One morning the government showed up with a convoy of armed soldiers and went through their home and property documenting everything they owned. They were told they had six months to prepare to leave their property. If anything was missing when they came back, they'd all be killed.
Six months later they came back. Each of the three kids and the two parents were allowed to leave with some clothing, but nothing else. They made their way to family in South Africa and ultimately to the US under refugee status. His aunt and uncle refused to leave their home and the Zimbabwe soldiers executed them. Also note that Zimbabwe currency is useless (they famously had the $1 Trillion note) so they bartered all their lives and had no real money.
So mock those South African refugees. You have no idea what they came from. Maybe they were rich? Maybe they lost everything and had their family members executed.
On a side note, their farm quickly failed as the crops spoiled. The sugar mill also shut down. The entire small town economy collapsed and their home has been more or less vacant since they left.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 12, 2025, 8:25 PM
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I posted that in the other thread about white farmers.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 12, 2025, 8:26 PM
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Zimbabwe was colonized in 1890, so six generations is pretty difficult. Unless they were in there on day one and the first colonizer was already older. For me, six generations ago (including myself) were born between 1776 and 1835.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 12, 2025, 8:27 PM
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However, I must be a grandfather a few times over by now.
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Ive known 5 generations in my family personally
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May 12, 2025, 9:48 PM
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My grandmother was born in 1908 and she passed in 1997. My first cousin became a great grandmother last year. That’s 5 generations on the family tree since 1908, so 6 generations since 1890 is not a stretch at all, especially when having kids in your teens was the norm for much of that time.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
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May 12, 2025, 10:13 PM
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Maybe it was 5?
Wow that’s crazy. My family is much closer in generations.
Daughter 2013
Me 1981
Father 1954
Grandfather 1929
Great grandfather 1905ish.
G G grandfather 1880ish.
My family came from Ireland in the early 1900s and my great grandfather was an infant when he arrived. 6 gens for me only go back to ~1880.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 13, 2025, 8:24 PM
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I was using the math of being the one owning the farm. Usually, when we say 3 or 4 generations, it means the people who owned the farm, not including the current owner's children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren. It's certainly possible by that definition and more so if you include the kid you met in the total. I'm not clear on how the colonizing went there. Was it typical ethnic cleansing and settlement or was there vacant land?
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Is somebody mocking them?
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May 12, 2025, 8:56 PM
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The question is, if the Refugee program is suspended, why did they warrant an exception? Are legitimate death threats not also occurring for brown and black people?
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Re: Is somebody mocking them?
May 12, 2025, 9:10 PM
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People are blaming Elon, but it's coming mostly from his racist girlfriend. She's the one plugged into the extreme right that has this as a cause celebre. Elon is really all about Elon.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
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May 12, 2025, 9:29 PM
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Zimbabwe decided to murder or run all the white farmers, who had fed the nation for generations, out of the country and has ever since experienced mass starvation and a complete societal breakdown. Not to be outdone, South Africa has now decided to go down the same path so we can either allow these folks in or we can watch them be murdered, not that the left wing kook media would ever report any of it. Seems like a reasonable application of the refugee program especially since we are taking about a few thousand people at most, none of whom are violent criminal gang members. What a nice shift of priorities from the millions we flew in by the plane loads and ushered across our borders who were completely unvetted. No wonder left wing trash preferred the previous administrations choice of refugee to this one's.
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 12, 2025, 9:41 PM
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You've really bought into the whole White Genocide trope spread by the neo-Nazis.
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Sieg Heil***
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May 12, 2025, 10:42 PM
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Re: You want to mock South African refugees?
May 13, 2025, 7:40 AM
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Genocide is a subset of mass prejudice in which a powerful political entity actively endeavors to eliminate another entity from their country or their region based on racial, ethnic, or faith-based differences.
For example, the strife in Haiti is not representative of genocide. Rather, it is a clash between different political factions, similar to the Reds vs Whites war in post-Bolshevik Revolution Russia.
The actions by South African government forces against Afrikaners is purely race driven. The black South African authorities are not going after wealthy black South Africans. As for Whitey, on the other hand, it’s open season.
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Is there some reason the Libs of TNet cannot
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May 13, 2025, 6:45 PM
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fathom blacks committing extreme racism against whites? Yes there is a reason - because they minds are effed up.
Indeed S Africa is far ahead of the USA in terms of decline. S Africa is adopting the high-performing governing model made popular by many sub-saharan black run countries. Expect good things in the future LOL
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Continental Africa needs South Africa back in order to bring it
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May 13, 2025, 7:22 AM
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back to the pack with tribal warfare and famine.
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In 1885 Dubose Heyward was born in Charleston
May 13, 2025, 9:07 AM
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his parents were dispossessed aristocrats from the Upstate of SC.
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I think we should bring them over here as refugees
May 13, 2025, 9:09 AM
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So if this upsets you and you want to help these people, why are you so against bringing in people from countries south of our border who also need asylum?
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Re: I think we should bring them over here as refugees
May 13, 2025, 9:12 AM
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Cause they're not white?
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I don't have any problem with these specific refugees....
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May 13, 2025, 9:35 AM
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I don't mock anyone that needs to flee their country in search of a more safe life in the US.
What bothers me is that out of the entire globe, this is the only group that the Trump administration wants to let in. I have no doubt that race plays a part in their decision.
The US has historically been a refuge for groups or certain people that were persecuted in their homeland. And all of the sudden, we can only find room for these people from South Africa.
They may be deserving of entry. But there are other groups from other countries equally as deserving. Now, we know why Trump doesn't want those other groups here.
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Re: I don't have any problem with these specific refugees....
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May 13, 2025, 4:43 PM
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And we also now know why the Dems were thrilled with the 20 million non-white refugees we were flooded with the last four years but are now apoplectic about 50 white farmers being allowed in. Why do Dems hate white people so and why do presumably white people support a party that openly despises them?
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Re: I don't have any problem with these specific refugees....
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May 13, 2025, 6:51 PM
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Because the echo chamber has told them that they have to hate whites. To do so gets them more TUs. More TUs means more acceptance by their legions of friends. More acceptance tells them they are not abject failures.
Kinda sad isn't it.
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Deserving does not equate to all people regardless value that they bring to USA
May 13, 2025, 9:13 PM
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‘Deserving’ does not equate to America turning into a repository for every want-to-be-immigrant.
‘Deserving’ is not an entitlement for foreigners to be allowed to come here.
America neither wants nor needs immigrants who come from cultures that are significantly different from America’s good cultures should not be admitted as potential future citizens.
Such as:
Foreigners who come from cultures in which conflicts between citizens are settled by violence as an acceptable practice.
Foreigners who come from cultures in which women are subjected to grape, without consequence to the graper.
Foreigners who come from a culture of plural marriage or incest.
Foreigners who comes from cultures in which theft is an acceptable way to obtain something that is possessed by someone else.
There are others, but you get the idea.
Not only is cultural compatibility necessary, but also the likelihood of the immigrant / immigrant’s famiky becoming a productive member of American society. In other words, a truly productive earner that will contribute to America’s tax base than they will receive via government social programs.
Truly ‘deserving’ immigrants must, at minimum, check the cultural compatibility -&- net-productive citizen boxes.
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