Re: How did the offense get so bad?

PACIFIC BEACH TIGER® · 2022-11-19T16:13:11.928Z

It's not just DJ its the whole #### thing. I will put in order of importance the issues in my opinion. 1. OC 2. WR 3. OL 4. Recruiting misses 5. QB 6. Balance of transfers versus portal recruiting What do you guys think? Two years in the near bottom half of the country in offensive production, there are issues like it or not.

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Nov 19, 2022, 2:03 PM [ in reply to Re: How did the offense get so bad? ]

jstone D329 said:

The most important position on the field is the QB so it starts there. As an example look at NE after Brady left. When TB12 was there their coaching staff was considered the best in the NFL. Brady left and all of a sudden the staff sucks. CTE is a great guy but an average coach IMO. He won two NC’s but had great talent. Streeter IMO is a better OC than TE yet he has struggled. You do the math.

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Recruiting misses

The list starts and ends there

I mean, yes and no.

IMO if you look at the year before Brady left, you could clearly see a drop in what we came to expect from the Brady/Belichick combo -- the drop was coming, I mean, almost 20 years of high level play has to eventually drop.

Brady chose to go to another team with playmakers + him being motivated to prove he could go win another SB elsewhere = perfect storm where the Bucs put it together for a great year that resulted in a SB win.

Much easier to go to a better situation (Brady) than to rebuild like the Pats had to do. Regardless, they played well off of each other and I don't think they reach the same level of success without each other.

As for Clemson, TL16s last season is probably the perfect example of what would be happening now if QB play was better. We'd most likely roll the regular season and, like his last two CFP games, have mixed results because of talent in other positions (OL, WR).

Think back to those last CFP games TL16 played:

1. Buckeyes -- TL16 and ETN helped will the team to victory after a rough start.

This was the game we started noticing the WRs were struggling to get separation due to the physical play of OSUs defense.

2. LSU -- Quick start where Tigers get a double digit lead followed by the defense succumbing to LSUs GOAT offense.

Similar to the last game, WRs struggled to get open (though the running game was actually efficient). But this time, TL and co couldn't engineer a comeback like in the previous game.

3. Buckeyes - 2021

We mostly roll through the COVID season except for an OT loss at ND due to players (TL16, Tyler Davis) being out.

Thump ND in the ACC Championship but come playoff time, get our tails kicked due to.... everyone struggling + those Buckeyes probably playing lights out...and this was with TL16 and ETN.

IMO it's just a unfortunate perfect storm where talent level is down, new coach growing pains, and inconsistent QB play.

TLDR; a combination of things -- not just QB but the inconsistent play at that position doesn't help.

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Nothing you listed does well when the QB is dysfunctional.

The very fact we're 9-1 with a dysfunctional QB speaks volumes about the OC's ability to adjust.

I honestly don't see issues with anything on that list other than the most important position on the field.

Saban said it eloquently last week. "Sometimes it comes down to execution". When you struggle from the most important position on the field, it greatly limits the complexity of the offensive scheme. It greatly limits the other players tasked with having a role when the most important position on the field is wildly inconsistent and sometimes barely functional.

1. OC has done a fantastic job adjusting and putting us in a position to win 10+ games again (3rd longest national streak, ever), and for crying out loud, if we finish in the top 10 it sounds kind of silly calling out all these alleged problems.

2. WR. No we don't have a Tee Higgins on the roster, but we do have (5) top-20 and a top-50 receiver. Think about that.. 1000's of receivers in the country. It's not these guys are chopped liver. It's that they're not often given an opportunity to showcase their skills. See QB.

3. OL. I have no idea what you're complaining about here. No, they're not an Alabama OL, but this the highest recruited OL in Dabo's temure. They're usually giving DJ plenty of time, and our running game is strong and the best part of our offense. That doesn't happen with a crappy OL.

4. Recruiting misses. I imagine you're throwing a bunch pf guys into that pile without understanding the root cause.. the play of the most important position on the field.

5. QB. Bingo.

6. Portal guys. Unless you're talking about a QB, there are no positions where we need someone. You have to remember transfer players don't change schools because they want to be added depth. They come in when there's an open starting position, period. We have no open positions. Who would you suggest benching?

We're 19-4 in the last two years, with a top 15 finish and a potential 23-4 ledger and a top 10 finish. How many teams will have 23 wins over the last two seasons.

Are things really as broken as some portray? Clearly no. Me thinks some dudes can't see the forest through the trees.

Fix the most important position on the field, and EVERYTHING looks better

How did the offense get so bad?

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