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CU Medallion [55851]
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He's not wrong. And this is not good on many levels.
Aug 12, 2022, 9:56 AM
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The Dems don't know how to let a sleeping dog lie. If they ignore DJT, his influence diminishes. If they rouse his base AND normal GOPers, he looks like a martyr. Not smart. At all.
And just think, the Dems had an advantage with Roe being overturned, gas prices coming down, Dem "victories" (taxes) with climate, etc.
Oh well. Mess with the bull you get the horns.
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1557947522190032896?s=20&t=38b2AFuGg8VXe74T3UWDwQ
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How do you know the party affiliation
Aug 12, 2022, 9:57 AM
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of the law enforcement officers who executed the warrant?
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Re: How do you know the party affiliation
Aug 12, 2022, 10:06 AM
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Doesn't matter to the Reich-wing and the cult followers.
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they've already lied a few times in 2 days. They lied in
Aug 12, 2022, 10:15 AM
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media leaks over and over and over during Russian collusion.
They said Garland had no knowledge of the raid ahead of time.
Then the next day, hey, hey approved it.
I dont believe the nuclear thing one bit. They throw that out there to buy them some damage control time. Trying to make it seem like he's holding nuclear codes or something. smh. I think people actually believe he's holding make the design to make a bomb. The President would never have something so detailed. They threw the word nuclear, to create a sensation.
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All-TigerNet [11241]
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Ofcourse you don't believe anything published from
Aug 12, 2022, 10:27 AM
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from a non conspiracy related website.
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Re: Ofcourse you don't believe anything published from
Aug 12, 2022, 10:32 AM
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ATL PAW MAN is not an extremist, Slac. He's conservative but no MAGA maniac, and usually a pretty good egg.
It's just an opinion piece...and one that seems to predate the whole "nuclear secrets" thing anyhow.
The FBI action was strong, and a lot of people were wondering what on Earth it was all about. If it turns out, though, that Trump was illegally holding America's nuclear secrets, the discussion completely changes.
I personally think Trump is running out of road, and he's about to spend the next few years of his life losing in courtrooms.
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All-TigerNet [11241]
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II know
Aug 12, 2022, 10:36 AM
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APM is good people and not a political looney. I just disagreed with his post. DJT being the nominee would be any dem candidate's wet dream.
xtiger is the Q looney conspiracy theorist.
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Lot o points [156124]
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Agree about APM as a good egg and non-extremist
Aug 12, 2022, 10:39 AM
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Which I'd say describes 99.9% of the lunge, but pre-1/6, APM was as big a DJT fanboi as we had around here. Every other post was MAGA! or "Go champ go!!!". Neither here nor there, just keeping the historical record straight.
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and lets not forget Whitmer fiasco***
Aug 12, 2022, 10:41 AM
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dude, we have history on our side. Russian collusion,
Aug 12, 2022, 10:40 AM
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dossier.
The FBI lied, spied and was totally corrupt.
Hillary colluded with Russian to get a fake dossier and the FBI worked to propogate the lie to the media
All of those are facts of history that you called conspiracy theories not too long ago.
But all of those "anonymous" sources were considered 100% fact and truth.
guess what, they were the conspiracies. And you fell for them.
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All-TigerNet [11241]
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A website and a story for every theory. Y'all are bad
Aug 12, 2022, 10:51 AM
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for our country, I sincerely hope you recover.
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I think it's fascinating how you can take a single example
Aug 12, 2022, 12:07 PM
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of a mistake or misstep, and come to the conclusion that an entire agency, concept, platform, whatever, is corrupt and must be blown up.
Trump had Paul Manafort running his election campaign...a guy who had never in his life even worked on a campaign, much less managed one. Anything about that seem a little..."odd" to you? Manafort's connections to Russian intelligence are likely just the tip of the iceberg, but even if it's the WHOLE iceberg, it makes your statement of "Russian collusion was fake!" simply not true.
Twitter and Facebook took down stories about Hunter Biden's laptop prior to the election. That's your one, single example of social media platforms squashing a true story, which at the time, had no confirmation, and let's be honest...was so ridiculous that it sounded fake even to people on the right. It wasn't, and that means it was a fuckup by those platforms. But then you make the automatic leap to "PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT WHOMEVER WHENEVER, BECAUSE HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP." No. Absolutely not. No way.
It's just fascinating to watch the FBI, headed by a Trump appointee, get spun into this strongarm mafia branch of the Democrats to the point that it must be disbanded. You have no objectivity in this whatsoever.
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All-TigerNet [11241]
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Best thing for any Dem cand would be for DJT
Aug 12, 2022, 10:03 AM
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to be the GOP nominee. It would be the worst thing for the GOP.
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personally
Aug 12, 2022, 10:09 AM
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I was hoping he would just go away. i think on paper he did well for the country in certain aspects while in power, but if he coulda just kept his twitter mouth shut things would've gone better. yeah I know, that ain't who he is and I personally (that word again) think his mental stability has slipped over the last year.
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All-TigerNet [11241]
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For him to just go away would be best for America.***
Aug 12, 2022, 10:19 AM
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ok. then why are they going to such Great lengths to make
Aug 12, 2022, 10:10 AM
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sure he doesn't see office again?
Again, I want Desantis not him. But its clear to any non-partisan, that they are pulling no punches to make sure he doesn't become President.
If he had zero chance, then why even "destroy democracy", as the libs like to say.
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I don't think "they" are trying to keep him from becoming
Aug 12, 2022, 10:18 AM
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Pres again, I just think he's done a lot of wrong stuff, and it's catching up to him.
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Huh? I've heard the Dems straight up say they are
Aug 12, 2022, 10:25 AM
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Trying to get a conviction so he can't run for pres.
And no, sorry, I don't book.ark videos in case I may need them for tnet
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Surely you can't believe Trump has done nothing wrong***
Aug 12, 2022, 10:26 AM
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proof?
Aug 12, 2022, 10:30 AM
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and I've always said I think he's scumbag, from day one.
But ####, y'all have the fbi and cia spy on him, had a special counsel investigate his entire life for 2 yrs, had the IRS investigate him in about every state, and now this. Nothing. Y'all couldn't even get his bagman to provide you anything.
Either he's the best evil genius in the entire world, or there is no there there.
But y'all and the fbi have surely done some shady #### trying to get him.
Which is why you make him stronger imo
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Trump would not have beaten Hillary had the dems and
Aug 12, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Media not overplayed the race-baiting leading up to the 2016 election. He was dead in the water in September but the clown far left parted the seas for him.
On the other hand, he would have won in ‘20 had he not been such a bully in the debates with Biden… anyone on the fence tipped when he could not control himself and proved he has absolutely zero decorum or class.
My belief (hope?) as an anti trump conservative is that there is a large faction of like minded people who believe he is unelectable, and want and expect that trump will ultimately be disgraced, if not convicted, and will not get the nomination.
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I don't think Trump has any trouble winning the primaries.
Aug 12, 2022, 10:26 AM
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However, should he declare in the next couple months, the mid-terms will not follow historical patterns and Democrats will have surprising success, not just in the Senate, but in the House as well.
Trump is a walking talking roiling pot of corruption who corrupts almost everyone around him and every day leading up to the elections will provide constant reminders of that fact.
If these elections are about Trump and the extremism of the GOP, they will lose.
Democrats would love nothing more than Trump at the top of the ticket and the sooner the better.
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Exactly. Plus it might push enough of the GOP
Aug 12, 2022, 10:33 AM
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members, who are deathly afraid of him, to sack up and kick the a-hole out of the party. Far lefties and far righties don't want to hear it, but we need common sense Dems and Pubs to run the country and quit all this twidderbiching.
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Let's revisit this issue a little later.
Aug 12, 2022, 10:29 AM
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I think it will look different in hindsight.
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that's called "hope".***
Aug 12, 2022, 10:30 AM
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isn't that where Slick Willie was from?***
Aug 12, 2022, 10:38 AM
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It's called "experience."
Aug 12, 2022, 10:41 AM
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Maybe I should clarify. Experience tells me that people always get things wrong in the first instance.
I actually read the Brooks article (did anyone else?). I like Brooks and often agree with him.
My impression is that the FBI had legitimate reasons to do what it did. My guess is it will find some damning documents that will do nothing to weaken Trump’s support. I'm also convinced that, at least for now, it has unintentionally improved Trump's re-election chances. It has unintentionally made life harder for Trump's potential primary challengers and motivated his base.
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Lot o points [156124]
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Ok, so snark free-post......
Aug 12, 2022, 10:51 AM
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I don't get the "it will look different in hindsight" prediction?
Brooks says that this raid looks like it didn't need to go down this way, and the way it went down will embolden and grow his support.
I assumed your hindsight post meant that bad things would be found, things that proved the FBI's actions to be correct and things that would diminish his support, but your clarification said that you also believe the actions would embolden and build his support, which is the same as Brooks point?
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Sorry for delayed response.
Aug 14, 2022, 7:05 PM
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Yes, you have it correct. I think the key is in the phrase "at least for now."
I'm also convinced that, at least for now, it has unintentionally improved Trump's re-election chances.
So I'm saying,we're in the as-it's-breaking moment with incomplete information and no closure on the procedural aspects. My suggestion is that this moment will look and feel different over time, and let's see what it looks like once we have the benefit of hindsight.
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He might be right, news is leaking out now that this was
Aug 12, 2022, 10:53 AM
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one of the super secret items found in the raid....
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true. Now, I may be wrong, but these seems like a total
Aug 12, 2022, 11:01 AM
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repeat of russian collusion.
I have a feeling they just threw the word, nuclear, out there b/c they were getting such heat. They needed damage control.
But maybe I'm wrong and Trump has the nuclear codes and sold them to Russia.
could happen.
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Re: He's not wrong. And this is not good on many levels.
Aug 12, 2022, 11:41 AM
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The raid will not re-elect Trump, quite the opposite.
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Don't worry, they control the vote counting in urban areas,
Aug 12, 2022, 12:18 PM
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so they can make their side win.
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Re: He's not wrong. And this is not good on many levels.
Aug 14, 2022, 9:34 PM
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Yeah, I said it five minutes after the raid...the dems can forget the abortion bump (pun intended).
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