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Top TigerNet [30391]
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Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 1:16 PM
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scare of the 1970s? A new Ice Age was upon us ...
It seem like we just go from one crisis to the next ...
Global Cooling - Acid Rain - Global Warming - Climate Change
If I had to guess, the next one will most likely be Caustic Snow ... burning polar bears and penguins.
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I'll take any, or all of the above if that's what it takes
Jul 26, 2019, 1:20 PM
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to finally be rid of cutigerbob®
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Re: I'll take any, or all of the above if that's what it takes
Jul 26, 2019, 1:41 PM
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You appear to have a vandata against old Bawb. Did he kick you in the ankle at some point in the past?
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Ultimate Tiger [33233]
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Just another ax grinder.***
Jul 26, 2019, 2:06 PM
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No need for compliments.
Jul 26, 2019, 2:36 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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Athletic Dir [855]
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I was born after the ocean receded from Cootville
Jul 26, 2019, 1:37 PM
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In the 70's I remember the gas shortage with long gas lines and even/odd fill up days.
We were going to run out soon.
Good times...
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So you trust what they have to say, now...? ...Or not?***
Jul 31, 2019, 5:50 PM
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i remember when it was all about the ozone layer***
Jul 26, 2019, 1:50 PM
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Legend [6779]
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Re: i remember when it was all about the ozone layer***
Jul 26, 2019, 2:07 PM
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Yep and killer bees were invading from Mexico - think they made a movie or seven about it.
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I saw the one called "Tremors"...gald they got those things
Jul 26, 2019, 10:37 PM
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taken care of before they became a real problem. 
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Re: i remember when it was all about the ozone layer***
Jul 26, 2019, 2:34 PM
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Which, remarkably, starting healing itself when the world went away from CFC's via the Montreal Protocol.
https://www.livescience.com/60858-smallest-ozone-hole-over-antarctica.html
Scientists are certainly not always right, but just as I assume a doctor knows more about medicine than I do or an engineer more about engineering or an accountant more about doing taxes, the usually very bright guys who are climatologists may know a thing or two about climate change themselves.
Well, except for the ones employed by the oil and coal companies that are worth between $75 and $87.5 trillion dollars worldwide, and would seem to have massive vested financial interest in ensuring people continue to use their products, even if it's bad for the world in general. You know, kind of like Big Tobacco was all about denying any sort of link between their product and cancer, even going so far as to claim as late as 1994 that "nicotine was not addictive"...at least until they finally got caught slipping impact boosters into the product to make it even more addictive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6B1q22R438
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Re: i remember when it was all about the ozone layer***
Jul 26, 2019, 2:43 PM
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Instead of going green they are making the green, it’s cheaper to spray aluminum trails in the sky to cool the atmosphere than going green and taking their green and giving to the green companies.
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 4:09 PM
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I definitely remember because my dad said we could go hunt saber tooth tigers if they came back!
BTW, who decided that the global temp in 1978 was the absolute optimum? If 1978 were as warm as it now, but we had been cooling off to what the temperature actually was in 1978, do you think everyone would be rejoicing in our approach to a global optimization of temperature?
Or do you think we would have a bunch of gloom and doom stories of the impending disasters and deaths of crops and coral reefs due to the deathly cold oceans?
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 4:33 PM
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The biggest problem is sea level. If it raises significantly because glacial ice sheets melt then we could be in a world of hurt because coastal cities all over the world - including New York, New Orleans, Charleston, most of Florida - could wind up underwater.
The other problem is that significant temp changes could create massively different weather patterns than the ones we see today. In particular warmer weather creates a lot more opportunity for hurricanes to appear; the concern is that we could see a lethal combo of low pressure and high temps, resulting in far bigger storms, far more storms, and maybe even the creation of permanent storm systems that never dissipate or are constantly spinning off "daughter" storms of their own.
That sounds...problematic.
Climatologists are torn on how bad it might get, but something almost all of them agree on - well, at least the ones who aren't ultimately funded by BP or Exxon - agree that it's going to be pretty durn bad.
The belief is that the extreme weather - extremes of both drought and flooding that's been disrupting crops in Central America and causing the economic woes driving the current refugee crisis - is probably the first major signs of that.
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 5:46 PM
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As a civil/environmental guy, I believe fresh raw water supplies will dwindle to critical. In fact, it’s already happening in certain regions.
I’ve seen it with my own eyes, backpacking to various headwaters along the continental divide over the past 15 years.
That said, I probably don’t have too many years left in this body of mine. I should have been a goner twice already.
I wish the younger generations all the best, I really do. I played my little role in the machine as best I could.
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Nothing happening today is new...
Jul 26, 2019, 5:49 PM
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It's all happened before, but we were't witness to it. We ask what happens when a tree fall in the forest, or a bear takes a dump...and say, yes, there's a crashing sound and, yes, it stinks. But anything new today, we act as if it hasn't happened before. Why? $$$
If you need a bunch of cigarette execs to convince you smoking is safe/harmful...you need more help than you can imagine. Other species eat meat...we eat meat. Other species eat veggies...some of us eat veggies... 
I don't see any other species smoking.
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what's new is that 7 billion people now inhabit the earth
Jul 26, 2019, 5:56 PM
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and the population is always growing, most quickly in the poorest areas of the world. More humans means more competition for resources and more potentially catastrophic disasters if things like major hurricanes, typhoons and sea water level rising occurs.
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Ring of Honor [21884]
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Well, Florida was submerged before...
Jul 26, 2019, 6:12 PM
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And Greenland was green. Is there a reason it can't happen again...whether we exist...or not?
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Oculus Spirit [43125]
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scientist determined that the perfect temperature occured
Jul 26, 2019, 6:14 PM
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about 10 years ago, and we should do what ever we can to keep it from changing
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And your other 2 sources... to support this ONE paper?
Jul 29, 2019, 8:58 PM
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Otherwise, this is just a whackjobs opinion.
-Doc
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 6:44 PM
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So like how the planer was destroyed after medieval warm period? Or the vicious winters the pilgrims faced?
Maybe all this warming is the result of our coming out of the most recent real ice age.
Ever wonder how many of the politicians claiming the dangers of rising sea levels have ocean front property?
Ever wonder why it’s only the Big Oil scientists corrupted by money and not the ones who depend on grant money to study impending doom?
Since China is the world’s largest creator of CO2 emissions, should we as the rest of the species seriously consider declaring war against them as they are destroying the only home we have?
How does the total greenhouse emissions of termites compare to that of humans?
Why are all the predictions of ultimate doom or the point of no return always 10 years in the future?
How does water vapor increase from global warming and its effect on albedo serve as a counterbalance to other factors?
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 26, 2019, 6:13 PM
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I definitely remember the coming ice age around 1970. I was a young married mom with a new baby and they had me scared to death. I checked out a popular science or popular mechanics magazine that had an article about how to build a solar heater. It was a desperate situation. Then we had the gas shortage that I've tried to describe to my kids. At night not a single Street light was burning in Greenville. All malls closed around 5. pm in winter and no parking lot lights. You only drove when necessary to avoid sitting in blocks long line. We had a recession then we had inflammation with 18% interest rate on home mortgages. Sheesh!
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And your other 2 sources... to support this ONE paper?
Jul 29, 2019, 9:00 PM
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Otherwise, this is just a whackjobs opinion.
-Doc
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Re: And your other 2 sources... to support this ONE paper?
Jul 30, 2019, 6:38 AM
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Yes, all of your posts are whackjob opinions. Lol
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Waiting on further proof...
Jul 30, 2019, 7:26 AM
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-Doc Tesla
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Re: Waiting on further proof...
Jul 30, 2019, 9:59 AM
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I posted a peer reviewed paper. Do you understand how those work? They have tons of citations.
You never went to college, did you?
But of course you know I could post 3. Or 7. Or 200. Just tell me what game you're playing.
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110%er [9174]
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Peer reviewed means bias, Little One
Jul 30, 2019, 9:59 PM
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They all see interest in supporting the subject. Peer reviewed is not a non-advocate reviwer. Bug meets windshield.
Get off your girlyass and provide me another TWO sources.
I've even seen some of these papers presented in person. Presenters busted for plagiarism or blatantly stealing someone elses work.
Get off your girlyass and provide me another TWO or 3 or 7 or 200 sources. Your game is stalling tactics.
You ain't gotshit. Everybody has googled and found nothing else.
-Doc
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yeah, I remember, and a bunch of other nightmares
Jul 29, 2019, 8:04 PM
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the chronic fearmongers on this board would have loved growing up in the '70's-'80's, there was so many whoppers out there to keep them "woke".
Ice Age coming, frozen rivers, icebergs in the Great Lakes. We know now it wasn't real, but that didn't mean the TV people and our teachers didn't scare us to death that it was coming back then. It was Science!! I vividly remember a documentary that Spock (L. Nimoy) narrated about it. As an impressionable youth (like some of you today) I bought every word of it.
Imminence of WWIII. USSR nuclear attack practice, hiding under desks and running down to bomb shelters in school. Olympic boycotts, hijacked planes, hostages, all kinds of chaos. Didn't amount to anything.
President Jimmy Carter said the world would run out of oil by the year 2000 (look it up) - Rations for gas, you could only get gas on odd/even days, gas station lines a mile long. I was convinced we wouldn't have cars when I was an adult. Somehow, we avoided that catastrophe too.
Killer Bees were quickly migrating north and would be all over the USA in less than a decade. Or not.
That O-Zone hole that deodorants and hairspray CFCs cause was gonna doom the Earth in just a few years. We're beyond the point of no return! Plus, we have about 10 years worth of food and fresh water left in the world!! Rain forests! Acid rain! We're going extinct!! Uhhhhh, still waiting on that.
Ronald Reagan - boy, was he was Hitler incarnate. Fascist Nazi who was gonna kill your grandma. Maybe he was even the biblical Anti-Christ! But for some reason, turns out he wasn't. Oops.
Geez.
Today, same stuff with different names. Global warming, world ends in 12 years. Nazi white supremacist president. Race wars. Yawn. I don't believe any of this crap and if you had the gift of perspective, you wouldn't either. One thing you notice about the world as you watch it go by is that there's never a shortage of the gullible. I spent my time as a sucker, your turn now. You folks that wake up angry and go to bed in a rage, y'all can all sweat it out for me now. I'm too busy enjoying this wonderful life. One day you'll realize how dumb you look to the rest of us.
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Re: yeah, I remember, and a bunch of other nightmares
Jul 31, 2019, 12:40 PM
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If you do not think for one second that the majority of the GOP members in our senate know that Man made climate change is a real thing, but are not allowed to utter a word about so they can keep their jobs, then it is you that is the naive fool. Even George W Bush admitted to it on his way out the door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsxrYfPNi8
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Re: Does any of the old timers remember the Global Cooling
Jul 30, 2019, 2:54 AM
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Aliens? Russians? White people? Threats abound!
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