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May 29, 2025, 9:17 AM
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One of the main "pillars" of the pre trib rapture heresy is the idea that God must remove "the church" from earth before He can go back to "dealing with the jews". But if we can prove that these "jews" are simply just part of the church, this entire argument & major "pillar" of the pre trib hoax falls completely apart.

The 7 churches represent many things but at a basic, surface level understanding, the 7 churches represent denominations & divisions. An easy way to know this is that Ephesus is stringent in testing false apostles while Thyatira allows a woman false teacher to teach lies. Smyrna, the martyrs' church, has little in common with rich, false convert ladened (no garment/naked) Laodicea. We still see these divisions today so we still have the 7 churches (spiritually) today.

And on top of all this, we know that the Book is alive (Hebrews 4:12), in the past, in the present, & in the future (Revelation 1:19). Another important thing to establish is that God calls certain LITERAL PHYSICAL locations after the names of other locations but He uses these alternate names as a SPIRITUAL name. A prime example of this is in Revelation 11:7-8 when He calls the city (Jerusalem) where Christ was crucified, SPIRITUAL Sodom & Egypt. So having established these principles up front, allow me to prove to you that the Israeli remnant is in fact part of the church and not separate from us as the modern Danites (dispensationalists) insist.

The seat & dwelling place of Satan (Revelation 2:13) during the great tribulation is Jerusalem (Daniel 11:45 & Revelation 11:7-8). Jerusalem is SPIRITUAL Sodom, Egypt, AND Pergamos.

The location of Armageddon (Revelation 2:16) is in Israel, NOT literal physical Pergamos (modern Bergama) which is in Turkey. When preterists read this letter as a once & done they create a god who does not know geography & does not know where Armageddon is fought.

Pergamos is the only 1 of the 7 churches with the word "Israel" in it's prophecy. That's a clue, not a coincidence. God does not speak flippantly.

Pergamos has people eating things sacrificed to idols (Revelation 2:14) which matches Isaiah 66:13-17...Jerusalem yet again. Day of the Lord time frame & people are eating "the abomination" behind 1 tree in the midst of the gardens. Cross reference that with Genesis 3; the tree in the midst of the garden...the serpent. So the people in Isaiah 66:13-17 are worshipping the serpent by eating "the abomination". It's unholy communion to the false christ.

Pergamos is fed hidden manna (Revelation 2:17) which matches Revelation 12:14 where the church (woman) is nourished from the face of the serpent. If his face is there, so is the rest of him because it's his seat & dwelling place. Which is Pergamos. Which SPIRITUALLY speaking, is Jerusalem during the great tribulation.

The natural branches (Romans 11:24) are the church of Pergamos (spiritual Pergamos is Jerusalem) during the great tribulation. They aren't separate from the church, they're part of the church.

And if 1 church is here we will all be here because the body of Christ will not be divided (see 1 Corinthians 12:12-25)

Philadelphia (alive & remaining) & Smyrna (faithful unto death) are the only 2 left standing at the end after we have ALL gone thru the fires of purification in the tribulation. Philadelphia is often cited (Revelation 3:10) as a pre trib proof Text. But in reality, that verse includes the word "patience" which stands in direct opposition to the idea that this verse is referring to an early escape.

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