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Looking at the top 10. Should each conference winner get a top 4 seed???
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Looking at the top 10. Should each conference winner get a top 4 seed???

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:22 PM
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I think we have real problems in that area.

Just because one team wins a certain conference, they should be guaranteed a top four seed? And, a bye?

This is all over Finebaum today and XM Radio college sports.

I think changes are going to have to take place.

Great win by Clemson Saturday night!

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:25 PM
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Whatever the rules are is what will happen. I don't necessarily like rules in place, but everybody has to follow them.

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:25 PM
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When conferences barely play against each other how else do you seed it?

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:26 PM
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yes, conference champs deserve it. Finebaum.. Nobody cares what the sports talk 'Howard Stern' wannabee has to say. Well, only the lesser IQ folk that do tune in to that show. LOL

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:29 PM
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It’s necessary to protect the ACC/Big 12 from SEC/Big Ten bias. Look at the top six right now. If it were the “best” they would blindly look at the SEC/Big Ten and say they are better regardless of non conference results cause they bring in the $

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:39 PM
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The conference champs top 4 seeds was a play to get everyone on board to change to 12 team playoffs.

Never expected it to last more than 2 years.

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:45 PM
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Of course not. The top 4 should go to the SEC, and then the other 8 should go to the SEC after that. Duh

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Sep 9, 2024, 8:18 PM
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zmorris said:

Of course not. The top 4 should go to the SEC, and then the other 8 should go to the SEC after that. Duh


I like your SEC only Play-off Plan.. Then the other 80 % of the fans can turn-off their football festival and watch basketball early-season tournaments with no SEC teams allowed.
That should run ESPN out of business -- and the college sports world would be much more fair
That could nudge college athletics back toward student athletics.

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Sep 9, 2024, 11:37 PM
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The SEC should just go play with themselves. No need to sully their purity playing against trash conferences. Just let every team play every other team and then have a tournament to decide the champion.

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:46 PM
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We don't watch Finebum... take it to the dawgturd board!

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Sep 9, 2024, 5:50 PM
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Don't feed this troll.... he's basically saying "If Clemson wins the ACC, they don't deserve an automatoc bid to the playoffs because the conference is weak"

If you can't spot the backhanded compliment in this post, you aren't very smart

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:08 PM
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Yep woof woof does it all the time! So obvious 😏

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the sec should get all 12 spots***


Sep 9, 2024, 6:06 PM
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Sep 9, 2024, 6:12 PM
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If it were me I would just call the SEC champion the national champion and let the other sisters of the poor play for a different championship. Maybe Middle of the road champion. That way most schools would not have to listen to Paul Findballs sec worshipping.

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:17 PM
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I do see your point being DAWG fan since yall seem to struggle to win the conference. Now with Texas also in sec yall may not ever get a bye.

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Yes***

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ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:38 PM
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Because UGA didn't win it's conference last year it got skipped. This year they would get a second chance and the CONF CHAMP gets a measurable reward over the runner up.

Sorry the SEC is not into meritocracy, but more into entitlement. We all know the SEC circle jerk rating inflation method that assures SEC presence in the playoffs. Your conference started this mess, now live with it.

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:54 PM
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the SEC is not into meritocracy


Meritocracy?
SEC teams are a combined 16-6 in the CFP (3 of those losses were to other SEC teams). No other conference has a winning CFP record. Those 16 wins are more than all other conferences COMBINED, and more than two and a half times as many wins as the next highest conference.
If it was a true meritocracy, the SEC would have 7 bids, the ACC & Big10 2 each, with the last going to the best team among the Big12/G5/Ind. No one else wants a real Meriticracy.

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:56 PM
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Yea we all agree the SEC should get all 12 spots in the playoffs. ####, UGA should get an a bye until the national title. They have an all world football team.

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:01 PM [ in reply to Re: ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams ]
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Let’s be clear, you are obviously a rotten coot and claiming accomplishments of your conference is quite sad. Saban Bama and UGHAy are worth mentioning, otherwise just a bunch of inflated good P5 teams

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:02 PM [ in reply to Re: ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams ]
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That’s because the SEC has gotten multiple teams in the playoffs most years. The ACC had a winning record against the SEC last season.
It varies seasons to season. The SEC isn’t going to have 7 of the top 12 teams every year.

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Sep 9, 2024, 10:05 PM [ in reply to Re: ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams ]
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ACC is 7-5

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Sep 9, 2024, 10:37 PM
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ACC is 7-5


Wrong. ACC is 6-6
FSU went once in 2014 and lost to Oregon, 0-1
Clemson is 6-4 (wins over Okl, Bama x2, OSU x2, ND; Losses to Bama x2, LSU, & OSU)
ND went once in 2020 as an ACC member and lost to Bama, 0-1.

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Sep 9, 2024, 10:36 PM [ in reply to Re: ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams ]
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Take bama from sec and put them in another conference and put them in the acc and see how the records shake out.

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Then by that line of thinking, Clemson by itself with

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Sep 9, 2024, 11:07 PM [ in reply to Re: ABSOLUTELY They Should....Sorry We Can't Just Seed 12 SEC Teams ]
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37.5% as many wins as the entire SEC should have a permanent bid.

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:40 PM
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I hear you. But truth is we make a lot of assumptions about who is best, what conference is best, etc. And while a lot of them are spot on, there needs to be a place where the assumed lesser P4 conferences have a shot to prove otherwise. In true competition, a champion is a team that wins a championship. Not a team we all thought was “better.” The SEC is best and will get a few teams in. But let the top teams in other P4 get a shot to overcome their weak conference.

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Let's look at the top ten in December not September.


Sep 9, 2024, 6:42 PM
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Follow up question: If you are an SEC team that finishes forth in the conference with three losses, do you deserve to be in over a runner up in say the Big 12 or ACC with one loss?

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Need to let the season play out first...


Sep 9, 2024, 6:43 PM
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Before having a productive conversation about it.

On the backend of this argument is a similar school of thought that records don't matter and a 7-5 LSU team is better than a 9-3 big ten team bc of who they played.

Personally, I don't think conference champs deserve an auto bye but do deserve to host first Rd at a minimum

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Sep 9, 2024, 6:46 PM
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Let’s just quit the charade and rank the teams based upon their viewership ratings then let those teams play for a title. Aka the NIL’s got talent

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:14 PM
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Rules are rules and a card played is a card played.

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It was always gonna happen this way


Sep 9, 2024, 7:30 PM
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Promise to include the Group Of 5 and give reverence to Conference Champs to get everyone to vote for it.



THEN try to change it all. LOL

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:38 PM
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Yes- why would you potentially reward a team with a higher seed that sat home while other teams were playing a 13th game. They should have to play that 13th game in the first round of the playoffs.
If the 2d or 3d place SEC team is really that good, they will win two games and get to the semifinal.

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Folks have made valid replies.

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:45 PM
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All I am saying, and just being honest, we may be in a situation where one conference has the 4 best teams in all of college football. As the season progresses, I will track this and we can discuss it.

I do not know how else I can say it without it being construed as flaming. I am not doing that at all.

I do think it is wise to let the season play out. Injuries, coaching, luck, etc., etc.. will inevitably come to the surface.

The first two weeks do not encapsulate all that is college football for the 2024 season. But, we are able to get a hint of what could transpire.

As I predicted several days ago, Clemson is sitting very pretty and Clemson is a good team! All summer long, I had Clemson penciled in as a playoff team and a dangerous one at that.

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Sep 9, 2024, 8:02 PM
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Well…..if you’re looking for the best team, after the SEC has a Champion, why should any of the other SEC schools be in it?

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You SEC Fools Are Such Little Bishes


Sep 9, 2024, 9:04 PM [ in reply to Folks have made valid replies. ]
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YOU wanted this structure and now you gripe about it????? Go away and play circle jerk with your SEC simpboys. Cry more

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Sep 10, 2024, 1:56 AM [ in reply to Folks have made valid replies. ]
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Want a first round bye? Win your Conference. It just means more. Want the top 4 teams in the playoff to get a bye with them being SEC teams? Do away with the conferences concept and and just make it the top 12 teams get in with the top 4 getting a bye. You can all wear your SEC patches and hold hands at that point. The SEC got its way with the 12 team playoff, now you guys want all the byes too. If you get that, next it'll be guaranteed 8 SEC teams.

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Sep 10, 2024, 3:17 AM [ in reply to Folks have made valid replies. ]
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That's always been true. Your conference will benefit from the money brought in by multiple participants and you're on the website of a team that's certainly going to be left out if it stumbles once. Go lick your butt and soothe yourself.

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Re: Looking at the top 10. Should each conference winner get a top 4 seed???

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:46 PM
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NO, the cheaters that tamper with other schools players should be banned.

No football activities of any kind for three years feels about right.

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Hey Dawg - how bout we just put the 4 highest ranked SEC teams into the semis and be done with it. Sort of makes sense because it just means more.

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Don't worry. Sankey and ESPN are completely in charge of the sport and they

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:48 PM
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have planned all along to change it in the near future. The original guarantee of one slot to ACC, Big 12, and Group of Five was just to get them to initially sign onto it. It's so obvious.

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:49 PM
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Mods? Do you ever take out the trash?!

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:50 PM
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Myself I wouldn’t spend more than two seconds listening to Finebaum.

Sounds like a pointless discussion the rocket scientists had on Finebutt. The rules are already set for 2024 season playoffs.

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Sep 9, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Absolutely!! Not only should the four conference champions get the top 4 seeds but the runners up in each conference should get the next four seeds. After that is Group of 5 best and Notre Dame, no matter their record or who they lost to like Bama usually had been under Saban. Beyond that if you want to vote in a few 3 or 4 loss teams that beat Vandy, A&M, Miss St and UofSC have at it.

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Sep 9, 2024, 8:02 PM
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Dude. It’s week two. Let it play out

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Sep 9, 2024, 8:34 PM
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Clemson and Miami will get in and can make some noise.

Mind you the ACC had a winning record versus the sec last season (that’s with UGA beating fsu b team and ga tech by a score), and two current SEC teams went 0-2 in the controversial playoff last season as well.

Let’s pump the brakes on the sec invitational, it may not pan out how the networks expect…

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:05 PM
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This whole system has been rigged put at least 8 SEC teams in the playoff…

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No, conference champions shouldnt be automatic top 4.

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:10 PM
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I think conference champs should be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, but that’s it.

Seeding should be based on overall resume.

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:13 PM
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If you think about it, it's really not a bye. Conference champs are playing an extra game that seeds 5-8 aren't playing. And if you happen to lose your Conference championship but remain in the top 12, then you are playing one more game than e eryone else.

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:15 PM
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Ok so here’s something else to ponder. Should COLLEGE football programs who basically don’t care if their players attend college be allowed to call themselves COLLEGE football teams or should they be called what they are paid mercenaries . See I can call teams and conferences out without naming names too. I’m talking about $ec ( uga in particular) sort of like you are calling out ACC and BIG 12.

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Sep 9, 2024, 9:36 PM
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Yes, the top four conference winners should get a first round bye. We need to get as far away from subjectivity as possible.

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Bulldog...take you SEC bias and shove it! Conference championship should mean


Sep 9, 2024, 9:43 PM
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something. And don't fret Bulldog...your 9-3 4th place SEC also-ran will probably still get in ahead of a 10-2 ACC or Big 12 runner-up! It just means more!!!

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Here is the argument for it.

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Sep 9, 2024, 10:26 PM
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Assume the conference champ doesn't get an automatic bye, that it just goes to the top 4 seeds.

Last year, Bama and UGA could have rested either starters, not caring who wins because both would have gotten a bye in the playoffs.

Conference championship should mean something.

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Sep 9, 2024, 10:37 PM
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Let’s just do away with conferences if winning a conference is not going to have any meaning

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Yeah - the NFL shouldnt have byes auto bids and

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Sep 9, 2024, 11:17 PM
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home field advantage either for winning their division or being 1st in their conference. Get real, the SEC is full of incessant whiners led by PF. The SEC can suck it. They are the main problem with where college football has gone and will eventually lead to a total demise of college athletics.

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If a team is good enough to win the playoff then


Sep 9, 2024, 11:26 PM
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They shouldn’t care what seed they are. If they’re trying to fake it til the make it then yes they should. If they aren’t good enough then bye or not they’ll get beat out eventually

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So you're not hedging your bets that UGA wins the conference?


Sep 10, 2024, 3:14 AM
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I hope you guys are a #5-6 seed so we can meet again in the second round after we breeze through the ACC trash.

As far as making a change to conference champs getting automatic byes it solves the issue of every conference buying into the concept that the B1G and SEC are probably going to get 7 seeds between them. I suspect that SEC will get probably 7 since ND got beat by nobody.

Rejoice, even if you don't win the conference title you'll get another shot at the top spot. Do you have any idea how many teams would cherish your position?

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Sep 10, 2024, 4:32 AM
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Whatever Foundbloom wants for the SEC, just do the opposite and it will always be best for College Football.

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Sep 10, 2024, 6:32 AM
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Go back to divisions, don't play conf. championships, and take the 8 division Champs plus next 8 or 7 plus top G5 team. Home games for top 8. All play same number of games. Rebalance divisions every 3-5 years.

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Sep 10, 2024, 6:58 AM
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Exactly right! The SEC should just pull out of the playoff and have their own championship. They can call it the Finebaum Bowl!

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Playoff should be 8 or 16 where no one gets a bye.***


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Sep 10, 2024, 8:04 AM
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Go post somewhere else

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So why put rules/regulations in place for such a playoff


Sep 10, 2024, 8:08 AM
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if you simply decide it is bad, according to Paul Dumbbomb ??

I mean the man is an ignorant pompous a..wipe and we all know this.

But I do agree that not all conferences are equal, not by a long shot. So, did the rules and committe that decided this DUMB 12 team playoff would be chaotic ?? Did they not realize that some conference winners will be nothing more than a cupcake for other conferences ??

I fail to rationalize how this problem was not already prepared for in advance, or why you would not at minimum discuss and realize the issue here.

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Sep 10, 2024, 8:14 AM
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Whether you like it or not, CFB is now NFL JR. it's always been the NFL's free minor league feeder program. Now it is taking more and more cues from the NFL including it's playoff format.

CFB conferencing is a bit different than the NFL but the idea is the same: Win and you are in. Once we go to two super conferences it will be even more like the NFL.

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