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FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 12:38 PM
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 12:45 PM
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I don't think he is taking a jab at Clemson's academics, he is correct. It would be much easier to graduate in 3 years with a sociology degree than say, a math degree.
He complimented Watson and Scott on their accomplishment as well.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 1:28 PM
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He did say school, not just sociology. That implies academics, lol.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 1:55 PM
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The way I read it, he only mentioned CLEMSON because he was talking about DW4 and Scott. IMO - he implied nothing. We can disagree on that.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 5:19 PM
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He was told that Watson and Scott graduated in three years and his response was "some schools are easier than others". How is this not a jab at Clemson's academics?
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 2:58 PM
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Took me five years to graduate CU in Chemistry, BS and that included some summers. What our football player graduates did in three years at CU regardless of the major was hard. No one can dis their time management and drive. I don't think a degree in underwater basket weaving is offered at CU. I've been to the UCLA campus. Was not that impressed. They have some off the wall, touchy, freely degrees that would be at home in Cootlumbia.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 5:39 PM
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> http://time.com/4606863/college-football-top-25-2016-r
> anked-by-academics/
This is a slanted article using GSR for team members, not the rigor of the universities as a whole. The tip off there is NO way Bama academically ranks above most of the schools in that list, especially not UF, USC, and Michigan.
As far as the kid from UCLA, I'd say Clemson helped DW4 become quite gainfully employed in a career he loves. I wish the young man from UCLA the best too, but not so sure the odds are in his favor. Methinks he should shut up and hit those books.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 10:45 PM
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I get what you're saying, but as an academic institution UCLA is a ways ahead of Clemson. Yea, Rosen comes off poorly because based on your ranking, not all of his teammates are taking academics as he may...but overall UCLA is generally considered to be one of the top institutions in the nation--borderline elite--while Clemson isn't.
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No locker room material here. Keep clicking.***
Aug 8, 2017, 12:50 PM
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No controversy here. Move along.***
Aug 8, 2017, 12:50 PM
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Where he's wrong is...
Aug 8, 2017, 12:58 PM
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Football and school can go together. Some institutions can be good at both where others cannot. Clemson just happens to be one that can.
Deshaun and Artavis can go back and get their Master's just like he can because they have their degrees. It doesn't take an MBA to start a business or own the world, but if you can't handle the capacity of two full time jobs then owning a business might not be the best option for this young man.
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Re: Where he's wrong is...
Aug 8, 2017, 9:09 PM
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Mark Cuban says that the MBA is the most useless degree offered by colleges. He says he does not give perspective employees a single point for having an MBA. A business degree ...yes....but not an MBA, as he thinks it adds no value to a business degree.
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Re: Where he's wrong is...
Aug 8, 2017, 10:54 PM
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He's an extremely successful guy, but most people don't think the same way he does. He's a tech entrepreneur who's heavily involved with VC...while he may not value an MBA, major companies care greatly about things like MBAs.
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Re: Where he's wrong is...
Aug 8, 2017, 9:11 PM
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Mark Cuban says that the MBA is the most useless degree offered by colleges. He says he does not give perspective employees a single point for having an MBA. A business degree ...yes....but not an MBA, as he thinks it adds no value to a business degree.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 1:06 PM
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No smoking go on comments referring to Watson and Scott. He's dead wrong on his assertion that academics and football don't go together. That's why you're in college as an athlete. To do both. It's also a slam against the many athletes that do them both well enough to get a degree with the hope they'll make the NFL. That part of his comments sounded like whining and a condemnation of other athletes who only wanted a path to the NFL, imo.
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"He wants to own the world someday"
Aug 8, 2017, 1:19 PM
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First off, Rosen is a well documented Regressive/Socialist Snowflake!!!! Socialism an Capitalism do not mix. Good Luck owning the world DOU**EBAG!
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If he was a socialist then he wouldn't be getting an MBA in a capitalist country***
Aug 8, 2017, 4:51 PM
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 1:15 PM
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I look forward to seeing what Deshaun does in life after football and what this egotist does. My money is on Watson.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 7:24 PM
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Watson will own the world and this cat will just clean his shoes or wash his car.
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Orange Blooded [2146]
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Try to own a .500 season before owning the world.***
Aug 8, 2017, 1:21 PM
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 1:27 PM
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Article has inaccurate statistics in comparing average SAT scores between Clemson and ucla.
Among the three schools mentioned in the article, UCLA has the highest average SAT requirement for potential students at 1750, much higher than Alabama's 1190 and Clemson's 1250.
Clemson is above 1300 and is based on a 1600 scale.
UCLA has to be based on the 2400 scale. On a 1600 scale per google, ucla is in the 1300's.
Liberal west coast bias.
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By far, the most relevant point. That's tough for some MBAs.***
Aug 14, 2021, 9:23 AM
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My father played football at Clemson and graduated in '55.
Aug 8, 2017, 1:43 PM
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He told me many times that football, studying and the military cadet requirements at Clemson were nearly impossible to accomplish. One thing though. Football takes up much more time now than it did when my father was at Clemson. Needless to say, his accomplishment was amazing and he did go on to serve as an officer in the military and have a successful career in the oil industry !
Those men really "Needed No Introduction". They were the real deal unlike the "P Whips" we have today.
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What does this say to his UCLA teammates who are....
Aug 8, 2017, 1:46 PM
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....working on a coloring book degree but will never finish?
Certainly, some degrees are harder to attain than others.
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Rosen is a weird, abrasive guy, but i don't think he
Aug 8, 2017, 1:55 PM
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really meant anything by his comments. I doubt he knows anything about Clemson academics. UCLA is a good school and getting an MBA is much more than the majority of D1 football players strive for. Good for him if he is able to accomplish that.
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Slow news day?***
Aug 8, 2017, 2:15 PM
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maybe he should take some communication classes as well
Aug 8, 2017, 2:18 PM
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I don't think that he meant to show disrespect towards Clemson. I think that he is just a young man that has "Think before you speak" disease and is trying to prove (a little too hard) how impressive he is. I do like hearing the long range goals of what he considers being successful. It is just not necessary to diminish the accomplishments and goals of others to get your points across. It is also funny that he is using his football platform to demean people with football aspirations.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 2:22 PM
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Moron.......is all I have to say about him.....Go Tigers!!!!!
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Getting an MBA
Aug 8, 2017, 2:24 PM
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When I got my MBA I was fortunate - I went to school full time. But there were plenty of folks balancing full time demanding jobs often involving travel and families and going to school - all at the same time. He certainly doesn't have the stress that most have with work and school - his housing is taken care of, his meals are prepared, and it's not costing him a dime. It's too bad that he would rather complain than see himself as a role model, which he easily could be.
And I don't care what kind of degree one earns - when it's done a year early, that takes commitment and work.
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Dynasty Maker [3300]
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i'll personally drive to westwood and biotch-slap him.
Aug 8, 2017, 2:33 PM
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i hope ucla loses all their games, unless they
end up playing south carolina in a bowl game.
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Re: i'll personally drive to westwood and biotch-slap him.
Aug 8, 2017, 3:33 PM
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And it goes fifteen overtimes and they beat the snot out of each other. 
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He didn't take a jab at Clemson
Aug 8, 2017, 2:37 PM
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but he still sounds (and looks) like a douchean'ahalf.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 2:48 PM
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Well.. he is right. A communications degree is a joke
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Oh I see. It's his world we just live in it. What a dumba$$ lol!***
Aug 8, 2017, 2:49 PM
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Paw Master [16453]
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Literally no jab was taken and that's just his opinion.
Aug 8, 2017, 2:51 PM
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Life is good on top when this is the stuff that "bothers" us.
A lot of these guys honestly have no business being at a school like UCLA or Clemson or whatever. It is a pathway to NFL. Hopefully they picked up something along the way, and Dabo/Clemson has a pretty great plan in place.
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Coming from the guy who had a hot tub in his dorm room...
Aug 8, 2017, 2:55 PM
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But had to have it removed because it was a recruiting violation.
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Re: Coming from the guy who had a hot tub in his dorm room...
Aug 8, 2017, 3:30 PM
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You mean Rosen and the coaches didn't know it was a violation or were trying to hide it? Doesn't sound too smart to me.
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It wasn't a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 2:58 PM
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He started a truth: some schools are easier than others, and some majors are harder than others. And UCLA is considered one of the very top schools academically. But he didn't take a jab at Clemson.
Another truth is that SEC schools academic minimum requirements are significantly lower than the ACC, so there are likely athletes in those schools that could not make it into ACC schools, or PAC 12 schools. I think it was more a jab at Alabama.
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Clemson is a top 20 academic insttution
Aug 8, 2017, 2:58 PM
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And we just won a national championship.
How did UCLA accept this guy?
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Where was the jab at Clemson? I'll need to read the entire
Aug 8, 2017, 2:59 PM
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interview because I don't see any jab at Clemson in that particular comment.
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He's accurate, but
Aug 8, 2017, 3:04 PM
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it's just something you don't say. And for that reason, he hasn't learned everything he needs to learn.
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Re: He's accurate, but
Aug 8, 2017, 3:28 PM
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Frankly, I think he has a much better chance at the MBA and building a business. A good qb, to be sure, but somewhat overhyped, based on what he has done so far.
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Maybe he's read the bad grammar and misspelled words
Aug 8, 2017, 3:16 PM
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on Tigernet!
What would you think if you saw it for the first time?
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Knot sure what you're point is***
Aug 8, 2017, 3:21 PM
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Knoted.***
Aug 8, 2017, 10:18 PM
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 3:18 PM
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Nothing to see here....move along.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 3:42 PM
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He doesn't know he can get his MBA after football right?
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 3:57 PM
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If I had to say something I guess I'd say he's right. They aren't Clemson and and they aren't ever going to be to be honest with ya.
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WHOOOOO??????!!!!***
Aug 8, 2017, 4:35 PM
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Here's a math problem for Josh. 1+0=Clemson's rank!
Aug 8, 2017, 5:05 PM
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And to tie into your MBA class, Clemson's rank = gold, diamonds and the top ROI you can get.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 5:16 PM
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That's funny.... I would have said the same thing about a business degree.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 5:20 PM
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This comes from a guy who had a hot tub in his dorm room. Not that its a bad thing, but if your are going to criticize others for taking the easy way out , then do some self reflection on how you conduct yourself first!
#ALLIN
#WE2DEEP
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Rival Killer [2880]
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Wow, fake news...
Aug 8, 2017, 5:32 PM
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You learning from the New York Times or what?
He mentioned a degree not the institution as a whole. And he is right, sociology is basic
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Why is this even a story? He isn't criticizing Clemson.
Aug 8, 2017, 5:36 PM
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He's right about certain majors being more conducive to graduating early. That isn't unique to Clemson. It's true at all other schools as well, including UCLA.
A really good example of this easy path to early graduation is Duke. They usher all of their basketball players toward a sociology major, because it is an easier subject matter and also only 90 hours to graduate. Clemson has no majors with only 90 hours for graduation.
Clemson is a very good school, and if this UCLA QB doesn't know that then that's his problem.
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Re: Why is this even a story? He isn't criticizing Clemson.
Aug 8, 2017, 9:28 PM
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Are we not missing the point that a MBA is a master's degree not an undergraduate degree? Apples to oranges? Rosen is a nutcase, who will have his head on a swivel at UCLA this year.
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Josh Rosen = David Olson?***
Aug 8, 2017, 5:56 PM
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wasnt really a jab just stating a fact
Aug 8, 2017, 7:33 PM
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takes longer than 3 years to get an mda than a communications degree..its true
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Legend [6629]
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So I did my MBA while actually working a full time job
Aug 8, 2017, 8:02 PM
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and 2 part time jobs, totaling about 65-70 of work/wk and no one heard my crying. It was not that difficult. Maybe he just has a harder time with it because he has less to work with.
He has a 20 hour wk for football, maybe throw in 20 more hours on his own that he does, and then he has tutors to hand-feed him. Most MBA programs without the cognate is 36 hours, so 3-12 hour semesters. He really needs to quit b!tch!ng. No one is feeling sorry for him, or thinking he is superman-definitely not those of us that have done it under much more difficult circumstances.
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Rosenberg.,.
Aug 8, 2017, 8:39 PM
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says it all Folks! A smart Asss.
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For such an Einstein...
Aug 8, 2017, 10:17 PM
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Why didn't he go to Harvard or Yale?
I think their business schools might be a tad bit better than UCLA's, Roseanne.
~JKB
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 8, 2017, 10:35 PM
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It seems to me the reporter was the one taking a dig at Clemson.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 9, 2017, 5:27 AM
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Don't be so sensitive. Who cares what the young man thinks? Probably needs to ask Watson and Scott for some tips on time management.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 9, 2017, 10:38 AM
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Re Rosen's intimation re Clemson academics: in 1966, when I was a registering freshman, there was a class meeting with Dean Walter Cox who stated: "Look at the person on your right. Then look at the person on your left. At the end of first semester, only one of you will still be here at Clemson."
At that time, there were no crip courses for athletes. Some took a major called RPA(recreation and parks administration) and even that was not an easy major. However, most were in engineering, industrial management, or other difficult majors. In the mid 60's, Clemson being a state school, had to accept many poorly prepared freshman from smaller SC high schools, many of which had no guidance counselors. Attempting to choose an easier major, many of these incoming freshman chose industrial management(IM) which they felt was the closest thing that Clemson offered to the nonexistent major at that time of business administration. Unfortunately for them IM required calculus, for which very few SC high schools offered sufficient preparation. Thus the high failure/drop out rate during the first semester. At least in the mid 60's, I can proudly state from my 4 year experience that the academic level at Clemson was definitely quite challenging for all students.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 9, 2017, 10:55 AM
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"What is easy academically for one person might be the hardest struggle for another."
100% Correct.
I doubt Rosen could have made it 4 years in the engineering curriculum at Clemson, but then again I don't think I'd ever make it as an Economics major at UCLA either. Two totally different ways to think.
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 12, 2017, 9:28 AM
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You probably would have made it at UCLA. I had two friends that attended UCLA during the time I was at Clemson. They didn't find it extremely difficult and from their account of their experience academically there wasn't much difference from my own. A lot of schools are resting on what they use to be when it comes to this school ratings stuff. Actually, most schools even Clemson has watered down the curriculum (less hours required, two academic forgiveness, etc...). Two years ago I took my nephew to orientation at Clemson and was shocked at the changes. I talked to a few professors about the changes and they said most schools have changed their model based on studies from Harvard (I think).
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Rival Killer [3048]
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"I want to own the world" mentality is....
Aug 9, 2017, 2:15 PM
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"I want to own the world" mentality is way too far gone to even begin approaching the concept of humility. Much shorter jump to narcissism for this brat.
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Rival Killer [3022]
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The fact that this guy thinks you need an MBA...
Aug 10, 2017, 12:19 AM
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...to start a business or be a successful businessman does not bode well for his future there. What you need is a passion and drive and an industrious spirit to have any shot at all.
He has been blown smoke about how getting his MBA will open doors for him. At best, he will be a typical corporate middle-management lackey with no real skillset. But, he'll have that MBA hanging on his wall and scoot by life reasonably comfortably on that alone.
A Steve Jobs he will NOT be.
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CU Medallion [20810]
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Another example of FAKE TNet click bait news
Aug 10, 2017, 12:26 AM
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Wasn't a jab at Clemson. His point is that all majors are not the same. Amd he is correct.
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Rock Defender [73]
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 10, 2017, 8:35 AM
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In my opinion and this is just based on my abilities, a business degree and a MBA is not that hard. Now if he would have said engineering, microbiology, chemistry, math etc...different story. I have a graduate degree in engineering and I took business and sociology courses for easy electives. Another thing is I hate the rap that some of these football players get because during my freshman year when I would attend PEER study hall two of the tutors were actually on the football team and want both were engineering majors and yes one of them FRED did go on to play in the NFL as a O-Lineman for 3 years, so these guys were first string players. People need to stop implying that these guys are just getting by and not doing anything. Kevin Youngblood, my schoolmate and CU WR, is a CIA agent the intellectual bar for becoming one is high. T.Lee another football player and classmate went through electrical engineering degree with me and he busted his hump, it took him being way more organized than I was because you had to plan around being missing a lot to go off and play games so when class our assignments were do that Friday are on a Thursday and you guys had to leave early to play a game Saturday he had to plan way more than that to get that assignment done and turned in our to go in and take and study in advance so you can take the test versus me who was a procrastinator. Just saying some of these guys are really, smart and organized and shouldn't be knocked because they can and some can't. As ask for Rosen as Mickey Pilar said dude you have been injured more than you have been an active player so you should have had plenty of time to focus on your academics, so sit down and be humble.
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Rock Defender [73]
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Re: FB Update: UCLA QB takes a jab at Clemson's academics
Aug 10, 2017, 8:43 AM
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Excuse all bad grammar and missed punctuation that rant was voice dictated as I get ready for work.
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Offensive Star [328]
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I agree with Josh Rosen and he wasn't taking a shot at CU
Aug 11, 2017, 8:15 PM
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Cut the drama and have some respect. This guy has goals. Yes it is more difficult to get an MBA than a communications degree.
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