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TNET: BOT votes to remove Calhoun name from Honors College, asks state to rename Tillman Hall
Jun 12, 2020, 10:11 AM
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Orange Blooded [2574]
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If nothing else, at least it is a swift decision either way
Jun 12, 2020, 10:13 AM
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instead of waffling and drawing it out
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Re: If nothing else, at least it is a swift decision either way
Jun 12, 2020, 10:16 AM
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Exactly. But I’ll tell u guys, we’ve got a lot to drink about!!!!
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Re: If nothing else, at least it is a swift decision either way
Jun 12, 2020, 1:23 PM
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Exactly. But I’ll tell u guys, we’ve got a lot to drink about!!!!
Drink about?... ??????
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Re: If nothing else, at least it is a swift decision either way
Jun 12, 2020, 10:16 AM
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And yet the media will probably still say not fast enough. Just like ill informed Skip on Fox going on about a football matters shirt from a few years ago. Their ignorance and agenda is beneath contempt
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Re: If nothing else, at least it is a swift decision either way
Jun 12, 2020, 11:11 AM
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Exactly, but after everything is said and done, FOOTBALL do matter. HS sports is the beginning of the help for underprivileged kids that would have never been able to go to college if they hadn't been athletic enough to play college sports. And FB is the only college sport that offers a full scholarship to a 4 year university cost free after they leave with a degree or diploma if they graduate. Also a lucky few will get good enough with their sport at the college level, that they will be chosen to play pro sports with contracts worth more money than their parents have ever made in their entire life time. FB does matter, and it does matter mostly for black athletes.
Anybody that believes the FB matters shirt that Dabo wears is a bad thing, those people that are doing the talking are complete Idiots only attempting to bring Dabo down, and that is all about their jealousy they feel bc of what Dabo has done at Clemson with FB.
The sport of FB has improved the lives of Black FB players 10 to 1 over White FB players in HS, college, and professional FB... Black FB players dominate the available positions in FB at all three levels that FB is played, so yes, Football Matters mainly for Black lives!!!!
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Clemson graduate Class of 1976
Jun 12, 2020, 12:56 PM
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Two daughters are Clemson graduates and I hope my four grandchildren will also be Clemson graduates. There is a lot to be proud of as a Clemson family, but never have I been more proud than this moment.
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I'm just here for the angry commentes***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:17 AM
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being its not being done with a gun pointed at their heads
Jun 12, 2020, 10:22 AM
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i suspect it'd be more palatable. Do it on your own terms, not b/c of some ###### org trying to cause trouble
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Re: being its not being done with a gun pointed at their heads
Jun 12, 2020, 12:53 PM
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or even worse, the audacity to respectfully kneel as a form of protest in a moment before a sporting event begins.
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Yes He does . . .
Jun 15, 2020, 8:56 AM
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He draws straight with crooked lines. And this this entire movement, and everything in it's wake, is definitely an unrighteous, dishonest, and crooked line.
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Re: I'm just here for the angry commentes***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:24 AM
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I just want to hear Nuk proudly proclaim Clemson as his University next time he is introduced.
And by the way... I am pleased with the name changes.
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RIGHT...let's just test Nuk and see if he is honest
Jun 12, 2020, 11:49 AM
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If he does say Clemson this coming year, at least he, at this moment in time, is honest. But, who will take money that he will change his mind due to external pressure? Next year or the next year...wait and see.
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Re: RIGHT...let's just test Nuk and see if he is honest
Jun 12, 2020, 12:00 PM
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Just FYI, that’s not the first reason NUK doesn’t say CU in NFL introductions. He hasnt said it in years, it was because he felt all colleges were making $ on from their sport. Needs to stay with his original statement.
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Well... I’m offended by Old Main.***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:19 AM
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Why? That's the building's real name.***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:22 AM
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It's insensitive to "old" things like Bob.
Jun 12, 2020, 10:25 AM
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Re: It's insensitive to "old" things like Bob.
Jun 12, 2020, 11:25 AM
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Sensible comment ^
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That's what it was, prior to 1946. I like it, kind of our
Jun 12, 2020, 10:32 AM
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version of Ellis Island. If you wanted to "get into" Clemson, you had to go through that building. Orientation was held there when I matriculated in 1972.
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Are you dismissing my feelings?***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:56 AM
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Re: TNET: BOT votes to remove Calhoun name from Honors College, asks state to rename Tillman Hall
Jun 12, 2020, 10:22 AM
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They had no choice in the end. It will save a lot of headaches.
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And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 11:01 AM
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Definitely. That said, even if they really didn't want to do it, they just had to to save years of headaches over a building name. It would be bad press etc. Its a business.
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 11:53 AM
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That is such BS. How can "that" be the right thing to do, but not the right thing to look at all the other slave owners? You are just repeating what you are told - can you think for yourself?
How can Clemson keep its name? TG Clemson was married to Calhoun's daughter for goodness sake.
But, if it turns out this is the beginning of the end of the BS, it will have been the right decision to get it over with quick.
But, you know the reason "we don't negotiate with terrorist" is because once you give in, they know you will give in again.
Again will come.
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 12:12 PM
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Jesse Jackson Academic Center For Book Learnin’ coming on up
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 6:04 PM
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Obama Institute of Unlearning.
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 12:38 PM
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Sure it will, bullying is the leader for forcing your will, it always has been, and it will always be!!! But it shouldn't have ever come to these circumstances, those names should have been long ago removed bc of what they represent. And those men's hate came bc of losing free labor off the backs of slavery, and slavery is wrong regardless of what it meant for slave owners that bought thousands of acres of land with the intentions to farm it with free labor that help to fill their bank accounts bc of their personal greed for money, and the power that the money gave them!!!
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 2:08 PM
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It’s Definitely not the last thing to change, maybe we could change history books so the names mean nothing at all.
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Re: And it's, well...the right thing to do.***
Jun 12, 2020, 2:08 PM
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It’s Definitely not the last thing to change, maybe we could change history books so the names mean nothing at all.
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This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:23 AM
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WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 10:25 AM
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WHERE DOES IT STOP?!?!?!?!?!?!
THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND RENAME AMERICA NEXT!!!!!
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 10:31 AM
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The more important question....
WHEN WILL THE RACISM STOP IN AMERICA?
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 10:44 AM
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When people judge people on the content of their character. Of course that's problematic because everything is taken out of context these days to meet an agenda. There is no sense of grace, mercy, and love on the internet or the press or politics.
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AMEN chasn79***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:26 PM
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Not until all races stop saying "[Their Race] Matters"
Jun 12, 2020, 10:47 AM
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and start saying "All Lives Matter" (among many other things.)
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Re: Not until all races stop saying "[Their Race] Matters"
Jun 12, 2020, 12:36 PM
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What's wrong with people saying their race matters?
The context is that people don't think their race matters as much as others, not that all others don't matter.
Idk how much more willfully ignorant you could be about this.
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Re: Not until all races stop saying "[Their Race] Matters"
Jun 12, 2020, 12:56 PM
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"Idk how much more willfully ignorant you could be about this."
Keep reading the comments. They will almost certainly get more ignorant, and much, much worse.
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Re: Not until all races stop saying "[Their Race] Matters"
Jun 12, 2020, 1:06 PM
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I finally agree with you on something. Every time you comment I see posts that gets much much more ignorant.
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 11:17 AM
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Unfortunately it will never be eradicated until the return of Christ. All this angst is about Man's desire to be or trying be good on his own. Only through Jesus are we not dead men walking. There is evil throughout every culture and all of history but everyone only sees what they want to see and use click words like my culture, lets have dialog, oppression as the words of the day. Well,the good news is that God said come to me all that are weary and heavy burden and I will give you rest which = peace.
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NEVER
Jun 12, 2020, 11:55 AM
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You know why? Because there will ALWAYS BE RACE HUSTLERS FINDING VICTIMS and convincing you and the other pathetic liberals it's all about racism. And you sheep will keep following...
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Lol, keeping living in that bubble of yours
Jun 12, 2020, 12:53 PM
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genius.
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Re: NEVER
Jun 12, 2020, 4:11 PM
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You know why? Because there will ALWAYS BE RACE HUSTLERS FINDING VICTIMS and convincing you and the other pathetic liberals it's all about racism. And you sheep will keep following...
You realize of course that the hate you a spewing means you a a sheep as well right? Different Shepard's but sheep all the same. One day hopefully you will see and learn that political Shepards come in all shapes and sizes and the only way to stop being a sheep is to quit following
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 6:07 PM
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When every group quits being a hyphenated American and is just an American.
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 13, 2020, 9:55 AM
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Racism isn't an American problem. It's a human condition, all races are racist and it occurs all over the world and much worse in some places. Study history and the world at large.
Racism is a problem FOR EVERY RACE and it will never end.
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Nobody knows where/when it will stop.
This is a good place to begin, though.
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That's the plan.
Jun 12, 2020, 10:45 AM
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And has been for a long time.
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Re: WHAT'S NEXT?!?!?!?!?
Jun 12, 2020, 12:43 PM
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If a time ever comes that America has to been renamed, it should be named, The stolen lands of North America!!!
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Old Main Building is fine with me..
Jun 12, 2020, 10:28 AM
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while changing the Calhoun College name on a program is alright too, but not take down the sign in front of his Fort Hill home that describes his elected positions (2-time VP, Senator, Sec of War & Sec of State).
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Re: Next will be the removal of the "Old Green Tom" it will
Jun 12, 2020, 10:28 AM
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never end. This victory only encourages them to go for more.
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Re: Next will be the removal of the "Old Green Tom" it will
Jun 12, 2020, 10:35 AM
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Who is "them", I think "Them" and US are the same... if you do not you are part of the problem!
I support NUK and DW4 is whatever protest they want to make. I think both have honored Clemson University with their actions on and off the field.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 11:57 AM
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If you're taking Calhoun's name off of things then you need to change the name of the University. Calhoun's son in law was a secessionist slave owner. If you really want to do the right thing you would move the university off the land.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Re: This will never end.***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Calhoun Honors College dates back to 1982, I was four 4 years away from attending Clemson, this is not an erasure it is a restorative action. I oppose removal of statues and memorials. They and ADDITIONS tell the story of change.
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Great !!!
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Let's get it done and move forward.
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Orange Blooded [2034]
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As a grad it doesn't really bother me in renaming the
Jun 12, 2020, 10:27 AM
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buildings. It is clear from Calhoun's and Tillman's writing exactly where they stand on race issues/relations.
Just a word of warning... 20, 40 or 50 years from now, whoever is in "power"at the time, when they decide to rename the buildings this current generation will just have to suck it up and accept it.
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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Me neither, by then though, our grandkids might all
Jun 12, 2020, 11:06 AM
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be attending Amazon A&M or Google U. Can we just go ahead and make it Bezos' Bungalow?
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Orange Blooded [2379]
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Calhoun was born in 1782
Jun 12, 2020, 10:27 AM
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Clearly, he is the main source of America's 2020 problems.
So, problem solved!
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Orange Blooded [3908]
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Who suggested that?***
Jun 12, 2020, 10:36 AM
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Orange Blooded [2379]
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Re: Who suggested that?***
Jun 12, 2020, 12:07 PM
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It is satire.
Try to keep up. We'll wait for you.
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All-American [590]
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Re: Who suggested that?***
Jun 12, 2020, 1:24 PM
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You can't use satire on a board when there are morons that are saying similar things with complete honesty
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Orange Blooded [2379]
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Re: Who suggested that?***
Jun 12, 2020, 3:27 PM
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LOL! Good point.
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110%er [5676]
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Right! The wave of calm is already breaking across the
Jun 12, 2020, 11:59 AM
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country.
Riots are being called off. Blacks embracing whites - whites embracing blacks. Utopia will soon be here!
And to think, all we had to do is change a couple names!
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Re: Right! The wave of calm is already breaking across the
Jun 12, 2020, 6:11 PM
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And loot and burn a few Targets. Nothing promotes social change like looting.
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Re: Calhoun was born in 1782
Jun 12, 2020, 3:11 PM
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Clearly, he is the main source of America's 2020 problems.
So, problem solved!
You're suggesting that Calhoun is an outdated figure and has no relevance today. Cool, than you should have no problem with the removal of his irrelevant name.
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