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Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?
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Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:22 AM

Team / No. of Rivals top signed (no order)

Ohio State / 4 (including #1 and #2)
Florida State / 3 (including #4)
Houston / 3
UNC / 2
Vanderbilt, Boston College, UCF, Louisville, Nebraska, Stanford, UTSA / 1
USC (the real one) / 3 (including #3)
Norte Dame / 4 (including #13)
Alabama / 3 (including #6)
Georgia / 3

Clemson / 0


-------- 2021--------

Clemson / 3

-------- 2023--------

Clemson / 2

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Of the 2021 haul - one transferred, one has not seen the field, and the other is average
Of the 2022 haul - one is our best WR as a freshman, and the other is hurt mainly

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If true that is staggeringly bad for us

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:24 AM

What in the world could be the reason??? Hmmm


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Re: If true that is staggeringly bad for us

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Jan 10, 2023, 3:59 PM

Two words. Tyler Grisham

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UGA signed 3 in the recruiting class, pulled 2 from Portal

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:29 AM

and they have 13 on the current roster with only 1 senior

They are going to need a separate bus just for WRs

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


You left out the team who did this..***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:31 AM



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thanks..just added***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:32 AM



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


That's crazy!

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:34 AM [ in reply to UGA signed 3 in the recruiting class, pulled 2 from Portal ]

So UGA will tell a bunch of them to get lost, huh?

In the long run, does doing this hurt them eventually, though?

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they don't "have to" leave

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:44 AM

i just did a google search and they say the average football roster in DIv 1 has 118-130 players

so all these kids can stay if they want to.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Not after a few of their current guys transfer out***


Jan 10, 2023, 9:04 AM [ in reply to UGA signed 3 in the recruiting class, pulled 2 from Portal ]



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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:29 AM

WR is a position Dabo must look at for portal help, although I feel we may be too late this year. I hear the scholarship numbers and no room, but we have a glaring weakness at this position.

If Ngata, Ladson, Stellato, and Williams had lived up to their billing, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But they didn't, so we are and we need help at WR.

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It's been a comedy of errors at WR

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:32 AM

Including being late to go after Williams.

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Which I don’t understand at all.

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:24 AM

We have put a bunch of WRs into the NFL, many of whom are still playing.

We still have Dabo, known for being a great recruiter AND a former WR and WR coach himself.

We have won national championships fairly recently.

We should be recruiting better at WR. What gives?

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Re: Which I don’t understand at all.

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:58 AM

Exactly, And we’ve been having great recruiting for top QB’s. Did DJ’s underperforming hurt us that much? Baffling.

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Re: Which I don’t understand at all.

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Jan 10, 2023, 10:10 AM

I think it likely did. I haven’t studied pass maps but I feel like our passing game has deteriorated considerably the past 2 years, in terms of the variety of passes we throw. I know there were several stats shown during games about avg pass beyond line of scrimmage and it was depressing. We’ll see more next year on how much DJU was the primary cause or just one of many factors.

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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:36 AM [ in reply to Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go? ]

Look to the portal for whom? Who is a top level receiver how is available now in the portal?

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UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:39 AM



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Re: UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:42 AM

That doesn't answer question. Who specifically does Clemson need to get from the portal? Specific names.

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Re: UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:45 AM

Tony Horne has not committed I don't believe. He played for Jeff Scott. I would start there. He's a burner that we need to take top of D's. There's also a kid from Charlotte that was not committed last I checked. The problem is we waited too long this year. I put out a list in December of guys we should go after but most are gone now.


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Re: UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...***

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:59 AM

I remember that list. We did pick up hanafin in recruiting and I understand we're going to train him to be a wr. Also signed the 101 rated wr from Greenville.

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This feels like we are being complacent.

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:31 AM [ in reply to Re: UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...*** ]

Did we just miss on our top targets, or wait too long to get involved with people? Or a combination of both?

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Re: This feels like we are being complacent.

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Jan 10, 2023, 10:40 AM

Wasn’t sure if you were referring to WR recruits out of HS or portal WRs but if it’s the latter, I think we’re late. We’re kinda splitting hairs on semantics with “complacent” but I think our approach to the portal is purposeful and completely above board on stale, dated NCAA rules many other schools simply don’t follow. We’re like the polite driver at the arc de triomphe, letting that car go, waiting for a good place to fit in.

If Clemson is late getting on WRs radar as a transfer destination we’re then (at best) playing catch up on the portal recruiting game once he enters. My concern is we’re not really even in the real portal recruiting game. And what’s worse is that approach isn’t translating to us pulling in big WR recruits out of HS.

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I was just pointing out that there are "good" WRs entering

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Jan 10, 2023, 10:16 AM [ in reply to Re: UGA pulled 2 former 4-star WRs from the portal last month...*** ]

the portal. These 2 guys must be pretty good if UGA grabbed them...

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Please stop, you’re busting the myth that there are no players in the portal

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Jan 10, 2023, 10:49 AM

capable of helping us.

These people here believe that Dabo would use the portal if it could help us, and since he hasn’t used it there must not be any beneficial players in it.

Acknowledging that there are some very good players in the portal who have gone to programs better than us makes these posters very uncomfortable.

Their current rationalization for this is that those players were tampered with illegally and/or paid money we don’t have. Presto, Dabo is off the hook, and gets bonus points for “doing things the right way” to boot.

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Re: Please stop, you’re busting the myth that there are no players in the portal

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Jan 10, 2023, 1:09 PM

It's not enough just to say, "Go after this guy." Those players have to want to come here as well. That's the big issue. You guys are avoiding the issue that those top level players don't want to come here like in years past, whether in recruiting or the portal.

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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 2:01 PM [ in reply to Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go? ]

Is it they didn't live up to expectations or is the coaching they received? Which is it?

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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:33 AM

ouch

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Top 100 247 composite

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:42 AM

We have 1. #54 nobles. 10 WR ranked higher than ours ended up at acc schools. Yes, the number includes pseudo acc ND team. It's pretty telling. We missed on our top 8 on our big board.

I knew these posts would get thumbs down but all this thread does is point to facts.

https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=WR

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I was going off of Rivals

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:19 AM

But still, Williams might be our best WR recruit in 4 years. The rest (even if in the top 50) seem pretty average so far.

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Re: I was going off of Rivals

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:27 AM

Maybe we can coach them up to a “10”...Right

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Jan 10, 2023, 4:39 PM [ in reply to Top 100 247 composite ]

shutout of NC and Fla, the southeast-

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2024 is looking better

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Jan 10, 2023, 8:50 AM

This Friday we're getting a commitment from the #1 Tight End on our board.
https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/christian-bentancur-284452?view=pv

Our January 28th Elite Junior Day 2 of our top 3 WR targets will be on hand.
https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/alex-taylor-281761?view=pv

https://n.rivals.com/content/athletes/jonathan-paylor-279273?view=pv

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bowlhunter on Dabo Swinney: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd Keller questioning every move he makes.”


Nice! Good to hear some good news about this....

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:20 AM

we need it!

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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 9:50 AM

I think not having a QB that reliability could get you the ball had to be a killer for the last two years. Hard to showcase your talents as a WR when the simple passes are in the dirt or over thrown. Why would they come?

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Re: Where did the top 100 ranked WR for 2023 go?

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Jan 10, 2023, 10:02 AM

DJ being the starter hurt amongst other things. Like coaching experience. There is a lot of tools that could and can be used against Clemson right now.

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Jan 10, 2023, 12:32 PM

I think not having a QB that reliability could get you the ball had to be a killer for the last two years. Hard to showcase your talents as a WR when the simple passes are in the dirt or over thrown. Why would they come?

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