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Tiger Titan [48917]
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We ignore Trump's past staff members at our own peril.
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Oct 23, 2024, 8:35 AM
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No doubt it will be met with snarky dismissal from people who blindly follow Trump and also embrace fascism for America but don't have the balls--yet--to say it out loud. But John Kelly, a retired Marine general and a true conservative Republican who worked closer with Trump than anyone as his chief of staff, has once again warned us:
-Trump wants to rule like a dictator and was shut down when he tried to; this time, he'll put nothing but yes men in place.
-Praised Hitler multiple times and wanted generals like Hitler's. Kelly had to change the subject because the conversations would become so uncomfortable.
-Slammed our troops who were captured or killed, calling them losers and suckers.
-Had little knowledge of history and the Constitution, and had no interest in learning about them or respecting them.
-States that Trump fits the definition of fascism.
-Hated the idea that top officials and military swore an oath to the Constitution instead of blind loyalty to the president.
If you think Kelly's making it up, you're a fool. No president in history has had this many staff members turn against him, and none has ever had their former chief of staff portray him in such a light.
At this point, if you still adore Trump, you may as well just admit out loud that you embrace this fascist change for America as well. Grow some balls and say out loud what you've quietly believed all along.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/us/politics/john-kelly-trump-fitness-character.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/politics/trump-fascist-john-kelly/index.html
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They're doing it for personal gain, that's what I hear, wut
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Oct 23, 2024, 8:52 AM
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WUT
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It certainly keeps them relevant and in the news cycle.***
Oct 24, 2024, 11:07 AM
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Joy Behar? Is that you?
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Oct 23, 2024, 8:56 AM
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You sound like a silly girl. The war mongers in office now are better for Caliburn International than Trump ever was. It's funny to hear people that only make decisions for themselves talk about Trump being a narcissist.
Your deep understanding of topics seems to be developed between lunch and recess.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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It's not a surprise you dismiss it...
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Oct 23, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Because you welcome this happening if Trump takes office. Thus, your opinions on anything serious can be summarily dismissed. You aren't capable of serious discussion.
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Ultimate Tiger [35141]
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Ring of Honor [22384]
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In Trumps first term, many on this Board including me
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Looked at Mattis, Kelly, McMaster, Tillerson, Halley, Pence and Milley and thought _ there’s some stable and intelligent people around him. MSM is overreacting about Trump.
Many of the above have since shared insight into Trump’s true values, morals and motives. Post 2020 election actions up to and including J6th showed a willingness to overturn democracy. Thoughtful and reasonable Americans should take heed.
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MIC moguls are against T-Rump... Such an astute revelation, Pence aside.***
Oct 23, 2024, 11:20 AM
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Ring of Honor [21677]
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Re: We ignore Trump's past staff members at our own peril.
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I finally figured out it's what they do want, Cata.
Not necessarily because all of them are evil - though it does seem like MAGA itself is indeed a "basket of deplorables" (I can't believe I agree with Hillary Clinton on anything, lawdy) of narcissists, addled conspiracy theorists, incels, sociopaths, psychopaths, sexists, and outright racists. Some of them get twofers or threefers or even fourfers from that list. I mean, look no further than a fair number of the charming gentlemen right here on this board.
I just think a lot of conservatives are in an information vacuum that got filled by some bad actors, a lot of bad conduct and extreme political notions have been normalized, and even the decent Trump voters aren't sophisticated enough to understand that democracy is like oxygen, and once it leaves the room it's gone for everybody. They've known American freedom and tolerance and our essential - and sort of quixotic, these days - notions of fairness so long that they can't imagine life without them and don't understand just how fragile those things really are.
In that environment, it's really easy to sell this simplistic, zero-sum view of the world where our "side" is good and their "side" is bad. The world is bewilderingly complex these days and seems more so every year, and it's easy to see the allure of a viewpoint that the world is actually simple, Us and Them...and the Dems have done just such a poor job articulating a vision of how tomorrow is supposed to look better than today. Biden actually did seem to have a vision, but he's almost inarguably the worst communicator I've ever seen in my lifetime as a President...and as Einstein once mentioned, if you can't explain what you're doing, it's not worth doing. Kamala's better, but her problem is that she's a populist surfer who just seems to ride the waves of whatever's trending and doesn't really seem to have a long-term vision.
So here we are today. I think Kamala does win the election, but it's still close enough it makes me shiver...and I'll admit I am totally aware I could well be reading the tea leaves wrong. And even if I'm right, is Kamala any sort of solution, or just another band-aid?
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Kamala wins and the globalists win
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Oct 23, 2024, 10:32 AM
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More money to Ukraine
More weak policies on criminals
More angst against law enforcement
Weak appearance on world stages
Turmoil in the markets
Rampant inflation continues
Congrats if she wins. You deserve what you get.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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And what if she wins with a GOP Congress?
Oct 23, 2024, 10:38 AM
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You still think all that happens?
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Lotta dumb to unpack in this post, but let's pick one:
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"rampant inflation continues"
Is inflation rampant now? What happens with 100-200% tariffs on China? This makes me believe that you really have no idea what you're talking about.
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Ultimate Tiger [35141]
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A few questions....
Oct 23, 2024, 11:27 AM
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Is money to Ukraine "globalist", but money to Israel not? (for the record I support giving $$ to both)
Has Trump not created the most "angst against law enforcement"?
Do you consider the markets to be in turmoil now?
Do you consider inflation to be rampant now?
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I'll bite
Oct 23, 2024, 11:51 AM
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I think the Ukraine situation needs to be re-evaluated, they aren't going to win and the ramifications of dragging the war out needs to be considered. If true that North Korea is sending troops to Russia, that could potentially snowball fast with other nations getting involved.
No, that would 110% be the progressive defund the police movement. Does nobody remember 2020?
Not particularly but I think things are on a tightrope right now. Anecdotally, we are having a hard time getting payments out of the larger companies right now, which is reminiscent to 2008.
Conditions also seem to be shaping up for inflation to become rampant, particularly if the climate change zealots have their way. Attacking oil companies and regulating the bejesus out of agriculture is not a recipe for lowering inflation. Couple that with our exploding debt and the move away from the dollar and things could get interesting. I don't think BRICS is the joke some do, I also think we've overplayed our hand with sanctions which has incentivized countries to at least start looking at moving away from the dollar.
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Ultimate Tiger [35141]
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Thanks....
Oct 23, 2024, 12:21 PM
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I think the Ukraine situation needs to be re-evaluated, they aren't going to win and the ramifications of dragging the war out needs to be considered. If true that North Korea is sending troops to Russia, that could potentially snowball fast with other nations getting involved.
I'm ok with re-evaluating as you suggest. I don't agree with those vehemently opposed to supporting them for the various reasons often spouted. They may not "win" in the sense of pushing Russia completely out of their country, but they are "winning" in that they still have a country and Russia is taking a big "L" in the whole deal. If they could get a settlement to keep Russia where they were prior to Feb 2022, then that might be the best reasonable outcome for them/us.
No, that would 110% be the progressive defund the police movement. Does nobody remember 2020?
Maybe...I certainly didn't/don't agree with any of the defund police movement. But look at what Trump has done to the perception of the FBI/DOJ/Justice System. Yeah...a bit was self-inflicted, but dang he's got a lot of ppl distrusting the entire system, which is horribly misguided, undeserved, and dangerous.
Not particularly but I think things are on a tightrope right now. Anecdotally, we are having a hard time getting payments out of the larger companies right now, which is reminiscent to 2008.
Well yeah, that's pretty anecdotal  Not seeing that at all on our side. And things are almost always on a tightrope, especially when Tech is the leading sector.
Conditions also seem to be shaping up for inflation to become rampant, particularly if the climate change zealots have their way. Attacking oil companies and regulating the bejesus out of agriculture is not a recipe for lowering inflation. Couple that with our exploding debt and the move away from the dollar and things could get interesting. I don't think BRICS is the joke some do, I also think we've overplayed our hand with sanctions which has incentivized countries to at least start looking at moving away from the dollar.
Ok, but that's not what he said. He said "Rampant inflation continues". Inflation hasn't been rampant for a couple of years now. I would call 8% rampant. I would not call <= 4% rampant. As we sit today, I'm much more worried about the inflationary impact of Trump winning and following through on tariff policies he's promoted and positioning our country in a protectionist manner.
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Re: Thanks....
Oct 23, 2024, 2:02 PM
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Didn’t Trump implement many tariffs during his first presidency?
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Yes and they were inflationary...
Oct 23, 2024, 2:55 PM
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I assume you realize that the inflationary impacts aren't instantaneous and the trade war with China built-up over the course of some time after the initial tariffs were introduced.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Yes, and they were very detrimental.***
Oct 24, 2024, 8:35 AM
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Re: Thanks....
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A negotiated settlement is the best possible outcome for everyone. I think it's to the point where either that happens soon, or things will snowball. I don't foresee a settlement happening, and I wonder if Israels retaliation against Iran will kick off a much bigger conflict. We're seeing the 'teams' beginning to form for a potential WWIII IMO.
Honestly, for most people I don't think Trump has had anything to do with how they view our justice system. It's their own eyes and ears that have solidified their opinions against those agencies. They are not to be trusted, and are not acting in Americans best interests. The system has earned every bit of mistrust.
Anecdotal, but if these companies are having problems many others probably aren't far behind.
FWIW, the tariffs helped my business. I am MUCH more concerned about the long term ramifications of regulations in the name of climate change, it's something that could dismantle our entire manufacturing and agriculture base. Look at the exodus from Germany as to what can happen in an environment with high taxes, high energy costs, and too much bureaucracy/regulation. Tariffs can cause short term pain, but I as I've said repeatedly, I think if done right they have and will incentivize production to move to the US. That's not to say they will be done right, however.
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We likely won't agree on the justice system aspect***
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Have any of you considered that it's not the fact that Democrats have done a
Oct 23, 2024, 2:37 PM
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poor job at articulating their vision, it's that many people actually understand what it looks like in practice and are terrified of it? So much so that they have no problem voting for Trump?
Do you know what a world without nitrogen fertilizer looks like? Do you understand the economic impact the EV push is having on automakers and their suppliers? Do you think we can power an industrialized nation with wind and solar energy? Who are the people calling for censorship under the guise of fighting 'misinformation'? Why is the Labour party sending people to the US to help campaign for Kamala?
Biden and Kamala are not band aids, they're meat puppets doing the bidding of a higher power. That in of itself is dangerous to democracy, but it is totally ignored for some reason. Not to mention, basically everything you posted could be turned right back around on you. First paragraph you're saying MAGA is a basket of deplorables who are all of the bad things, then in the third paragraph you're lamenting the fact that they are being sold a zero sum view of the world where their side is good and the other is bad....Like, are you serious? No self awareness there, or what?
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Re: Have any of you considered that it's not the fact that Democrats have done a
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I differentiate between "MAGA" and "conservative". MAGA's aren't conservatives. They're reactionaries, and that's something very different. I've been back and forth on you, frankly. Sometimes you seem reasonable. You're no CharlestonTom or NJDEV, and you don't come across as psychotically angry as the NC's.
Conservatives are most of the folks you run into at a Clemson tailgate. For the most part, they're salt of the Earth...just as most liberals are pretty nice too (often too nice for their own good, actually) while far-left radicals are complete triggered lunatic a$$holes utterly convinced they're right about whatever trending cause they're screeching about. There's a lot more than two teams...again, people who don't get that are showing their lack of sophistication and their desire to oversimplify what's actually more complicated than that.
As far as all those climate-change questions go, something I would consider very carefully: it's strongly in your own self-interest, clearly, for climate change to be a "hoax". But what if it isn't? What if all these very smart people with advanced degrees who are doing mathematical models of the thermodynamics of carbon accretion, glacier degradation, sea-level rise, oceanic flow patterns, and examining extracted ice cores for carbon dating to map historical climate patterns are in fact...really smart, and you're one of the Luddites with your fingers in your ear going "la-la-la-la-la" like a six-year old because these really smart people are saying something you don't want to hear?
Mark Twain once said: "never argue with the weather." But you're doing just that. That rarely ends well.
And no, I could sit here and talk to you all day about the future of power. Futurism is how I make most of my money. Solar and wind power are not sufficient; they don't provide base load, and there's plenty of places where the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine. But solar's also well past the point of break-even profitability...and it's going exponential. Which is what happens when something's profitable. And when the perovskite solar hits in a couple years - it's already creeping into the market now - it's going to go from "exponential" to "explosive". Right now solar is about $3 to $4 per watt...peroskite could go as low as 10 cents a watt. Good luck stopping that. Even if you don't buy climate change at all, there is no stopping energy that cheap.
https://cleantechnica.com/2023/05/22/new-perovskite-solar-cells-how-low-and-how-fast-can-solar-go/
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If we go down the road the climate alarmist want us to go down, we won't have
Oct 24, 2024, 10:04 AM
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the economic capacity or influence to do anything about it anymore anyway, and that's the part you're totally missing. Have any of these models ever turned out to be right about anything? For decades now we've seen these same doom and gloom predictions not come true, I'm not pro pollution or anything, but you're not looking at the big picture.
Hey, maybe when this perovskite solar hits places like Germany can get some of their industry back....or maybe they don't and they've hamstrung themselves for the foreseeable future by making moves that had no measurable impact, anyway. I'm not sure what being a futurist entails, but it sounds like somebody who doesn't live in present reality, which would make sense given what you've posted here. Do you like famine, power blackouts, and societal collapse? Because that's what we'll get with the current 'prescriptions' to fight climate change. And you know what? Nobody is going to GAF about fighting climate change under those conditions.
FWIW, I've actually been into the Qcells plant in Dalton, Ga. I have seen the operation first hand and worked with many of the engineers there. There are a lot of problems with perovskite solar, it's 10+ years away at minimum from being a viable replacement for what's out there now.
In regards to the '2 teams' comment, you're the one dividing everyone up into 2 teams. If you're voting for Trump you're either unsophisticated/ill informed or all of the really bad things per you. So for all practical purposes, you're doing exactly what you accuse the "unsophisticated" of doing.
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Re: If we go down the road the climate alarmist want us to go down, we won't have
Oct 24, 2024, 11:02 AM
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You're right, there's a third group - those who have a horse in the race. That would be you. And so if you've been to that plant, you know the big problem with perovskite is it degrades in very hot or very cold temps and has a short shelf-life, and you'd also know they're bonding it with silicon to extend its lifespan and that stuff isn't 10 years away, some of it's hitting the market right now.
And Germany's not really effed for the reasons you're citing. Germany was placed in a no-win situation and no matter which way they went they were hosed. The first reason is about to take down most of the industrialized nations in the world unless a solution is figured out, like, yesterday. The second reason - the one particular to Germany - is that Germany's petrochemical industry is all based on LNG...and when Nord Stream went boom that pipeline (literally) got cut off. Without it the Germans are 100% reliant on us and the Gulf states for LNG, which isn't remotely cost-effective...and guess what, that pipeline from Russia is never coming back because Russia's wellheads are collapsing en masse due to knock-on-shutdown effects related to what happens to oil wells when they freeze in permafrost regions. (It took 30+ years to re-drill those wells after the Soviet Union collapsed and it was the West that rebuilt it for them...this time nobody is going to do it for them, and the Russians assuredly can't do it themselves.) It isn't just power - natural gas is also feedstock for most of their chemicals and fertilizer industries, and without it their entire industrial sector is crippled. With that exquisite German efficiency anybody in industry has seen, they organized their entire industrial base to be vertically integrated, with nearly all inputs built neatly on top of one another and kept in-house...which was great, until they no longer had the most important input they had to import, and that was LNG. Now that neat, ultra-organized German efficiency is completely working against them.
The other major problem they have is workforce...and this is the one that's coming for everybody in the industrialized world; fortunately for us we're about 40-50 years behind the curve of those who are most affected - extremely high among them, Germany. A fertility rate of 2.1 (meaning, every woman has 2.1 children) is replacement level. Germany's is at 1.58...but unlike us, their Baby Boomer generation was very small due to postwar economic collapse, and their Gen X (1965-1980) is huge. (With us, the Gen X'ers are a small cohort compared to the Boomers and Millennials.) And that generation is about to start hitting retirement age...with very small cohorts of Millennials and Gen Z's to replace them. They're already having major problems with hiring in their tech sectors, which is why they're scooping up laid-off Silicon Valley tech workers left and right.
There's no move Germany has left (or had even at the beginning of the Ukraine War once the pipeline exploded) that will really produce a winning result, unless human cloning or the Fountain of Youth is discovered. Mathematically they're in dire trouble. The same holds true of China, South Korea, Japan, Italy, Spain, Russia, Ukraine (they're fighting over a future graveyard, basically), and several others in Europe. The early hit to their industry due to LNG shortage was just what pushed the Germans out ahead of the others, but it's coming for the rest of them - and us, unless we get a handle on the problem.
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I noticed
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that CNN is shouting Kelly's "fascist" accusations from the rooftops this morning.
This clearly has nothing to do with the polling results showing Trump is winning independents, hispanics, and over 30% with blacks.
How terrifying that we might secure our borders, disengage from the climate cult, that we might stop pretending Russia vs Ukraine is an existential threat to us, might stop the DEI madness, stop pushing to castrate kids, and stop the effort to censor speech.
I'm literally shaking right now.
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Oh yes, it's just that simple!
Oct 23, 2024, 10:42 AM
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How terrifying that we might secure our borders, disengage from the climate cult, that we might stop pretending Russia vs Ukraine is an existential threat to us, might stop the DEI madness, stop pushing to castrate kids, and stop the effort to censor speech.
Let's also just conveniently leave out his desire to turn the military on citizens, to wreck our economy with tariffs so he can force corporations under his control, take complete power from the Fed and control interest rates, silence and imprison his opposition, put all immigrants in concentration camps, and force a Christian theocracy on us (not because he's a Christian because it equals to loyalist control) among others.
You want Trump because you think you won't be one of the ones oppressed, but you certainly welcome it for others.
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LOL
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You sound like Rachel Maddow.
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Except, you know...
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Citing the things Trump has said he's going to do.
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What a {} reply***
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It fits the poster.***
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It is a bit like watching a slow moving train wreck
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the problem is no one knows how bad it could really get. If our military even becomes slightly divided on the issue of posse commitatus, that in itself is a big unknown problem that no one can predict the severity of outcome. It could be manageable or it could not be and that’s terrible to consider.
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Re: It is a bit like watching a slow moving train wreck
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It's like a collective, national suicide is underway a la Jim Jones and the Kool-Aid. The 'afterlife' being promised, a post-Democratic and post-constitutional break led by a failed businessman and A-List grifter, is somehow going to provide some type of salvation?
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You pathetic, delusional, wimpy little punk... Are you scared?***
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You sound so Alpha
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on the internet. Surely you can blow harder?
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John Kelly is just another radical Lib with TDS.***
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The Cheneys are the original liberals!***
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An oleDick actually shot someone.***
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I remember chief of staff was a revolving door of
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people calling him a moron on the way out, and at no point in his administration did he manage to fill every cabinet position. He also went through 4 pres secretaries, it was a clown car. And now he is making it very clear that he intends to gut the Pentagon and regulatory agencies with least competent people he can find, knocking down load-bearing walls in our government that would take a decade to fix, assuming he only stayed in power four years.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Let's at least give Mulvaney credit
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Oct 23, 2024, 2:12 PM
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I think he still stuck to loyalty for Trump but he was also constantly obliterated drunk in the White House.
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If you'll read more on his relationship with Trump...
Oct 24, 2024, 8:29 AM
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you'll find a LOT happened between May 2018 when this was written and when he was no longer on speaking terms with Trump before he resigned in Dec 2018.
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National Champion [7763]
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I have, and I've not found anything other than
Oct 24, 2024, 9:14 AM
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a bunch of he said he said. He does come off as a little disgruntled, and stuff like this really sells books.
I'm not saying he's lying necessarily, but he's definitely taken both sides from "he's a great leader", to "he's a fascist and Hitler".
And if he did believe what he's saying, why wait for years and a book deal to come out and tell people about it.
Just playing a little devil's advocate.
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Why would an honorable and respected Marine general...
Oct 24, 2024, 10:26 AM
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Just make all this up?
Vs. an egomaniac who has a history of lying?
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National Champion [7763]
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I'm not dismissing anything.
Oct 24, 2024, 10:40 AM
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I'm just saying that there's at least reason to question. And last year is still 4 or 5 years later.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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When this many people who worked closely with Trump...
Oct 24, 2024, 10:56 AM
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Come out and say what a bad person and president he was, and he wants to be a fascist dictator, AND they have very honorable careers and reputations, don't you think maybe it's time to start listening?
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Re: When this many people who worked closely with Trump...
Oct 24, 2024, 11:05 AM
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True, but it's like I said. Most of these people have been as far as possible to both sides of what they say between positive and negative.
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Re: We ignore Trump's past staff members at our own peril.
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Oct 24, 2024, 8:25 AM
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The boogie man is going to get you!!!! Lmao.
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weak sauce***
Oct 24, 2024, 8:30 AM
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When Kamala answers a question with a direct answer instead of some meaningless
Oct 24, 2024, 9:19 AM
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word salad, I'll listen. Haley Jackson asked her 3 times about the border and she could only say something like we have a plan or I have ideas or we're going to move in a different direction. Oh, and now she apparently supports the wall.
Until then, she's off the list and I will support Trump.
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Re: When Kamala answers a question with a direct answer instead of some meaningless
Oct 24, 2024, 9:24 AM
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Nobody does word salad more than Trump.
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You know, I can't give you a good reason to support Harris
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Oct 24, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Her policies are weak and, IMO, misguided. I don't have faith in her as a leader. Any argument YOU make as to why I shouldn't support her, I'll agree with it.
What I do have faith in is that a GOP Congress can keep her in check.
What I'm imploring some of you to do is reconsider this blind adoration for Trump. He has made it very clear, from his own words and actions, that he intends to turn our nation into a potential dictatorship and empower reckless people to serve with him. And a GOP Congress that will nothing to stop it.
I know Harris will be a bad president. Trump has proven he's a bad one who hates democracy and will be even worse this time around for his own personal selfishness.
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What plans has Trump given details on?....
Oct 24, 2024, 11:22 AM
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some of the biggest problems I had early on in his term was that he didn't have any plans or any real cogent strategy.
Obamacare is the first/biggest that comes to mind. He railed on Obamacare for many years...before he was even running for POTUS.
When he got in office...he and his team had NOTHING. Seriously, nothing...not even an outline of what they wanted. It was a complete sheetshow.
And immigration...what's his real plan other than he's going to crack down on it. He said that the 1st go-around and, in reality, his only meaningful policy crack down was Title 42 that only existed due to COVID. When the pandemic was over, so was Title 42. Trump made no rule lasting change to anything to do with immigration...and he had GOP control of Congress his 1st 2 years.
I don't agree with Harris on any policy position that I can think of...but to critsize her for lack of details and vote for Trump instead...presumably because he has details is very short-sighted IMO.
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Re: We ignore Trump's past staff members at our own peril.
Oct 24, 2024, 10:37 AM
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i cant believe that you believe the stuff you type
check your meds
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Another weak reply...is this a sign that there isn't really anything...
Oct 24, 2024, 11:25 AM
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substantive that can be said when so many former admin officials are against the POTUS they served?
Sure seems like that's the case.
Just pick one...his VP Mike Pence. Let me guess...he's a liberal now? How in the eff does a Trump supporter get around the fact that Mike Pence isn't voting for Trump???????
But Pence had made clear he had come to harbor serious reservations about Trump’s actions and his policy stances.
“I believe anyone that puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States and anyone who asks someone else to put them over the Constitution should never be president of the United States again,” he said during his campaign launch speech.
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Re: Another weak reply...is this a sign that there isn't really anything...
Oct 24, 2024, 11:29 AM
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open your eyes
the establishment does not want trump and will lie to get rid of him
they have no credibility
oh, pence is a constitutional lawyer now
hahahahahahaha
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lutz...everyone is wrong except Trump***
Oct 24, 2024, 12:59 PM
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So that's a "yes"...
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Oct 24, 2024, 1:06 PM
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and are you saying Trump employed "establishment" people in his administration...but that he's not "establishment" because (fill-in the blank stupid reason here).
So in that list of former Chiefs of Staff, advisers, general, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, National Security Advisors, Vice Presidents, spokes people, and former GOP Congressional Leadership...they all have "no credibility"? That's laughable
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Re: We ignore Trump's past staff members at our own peril.
Oct 24, 2024, 3:44 PM
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So Kelly worked with Trump years ago where he supposedly heard all of this and kept all to himself for years until a week before the election? You people will believe anything won't you.
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