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Orange Blooded [2198]
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Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 9:01 AM
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Today starts the 2013 college football season!
Entering today who do y'all have as your top 5 coaches in the country.
Lets keep this civil guys.
1. Nick Saban
2. Steve Spurrier
3. Gary patterson
4. Chris Peterson
5. David Shaw
I know shaw has only been a head coach for 2 years but i really like the direction Stanford is heading. "the Alabama of the west.... but smarter"
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 9:04 AM
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your list would be better if you spelled the name of the top guy correctly
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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So you think Spurrier is a better coach than Urban Meyer?
Aug 29, 2013, 9:05 AM
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For reals?
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Oculus Spirit [96805]
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There's a rumor going around that Meyer is a better coach.
Aug 29, 2013, 9:07 AM
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It's just an Urban Legend though...
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Re: urban's 12-0 last year was probation aided...
Aug 29, 2013, 9:09 AM
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Ohio state =ND last year. Won 4-5 close games with luck. That was a 12-0 team that was more like an 8-4 football team.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Huh? Doesn't that help the Urban Meyer argument?
Aug 29, 2013, 9:11 AM
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They squeaked out some close games, which typically has to do with better coaching. You don't go undefeated without some luck.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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absolutely and you don't get by vandy last year without
Aug 29, 2013, 9:18 AM
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some luck. even the michigan game was a blown assignment...
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Re: spurrier won 4 or 5 close ones with luck***
Aug 29, 2013, 10:08 AM
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.....or just better coaching!
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Re: spurrier won 4 or 5 close ones with luck***
Aug 29, 2013, 10:14 AM
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Why don't you just come clean and amitt you nothing but a f'n coot dirtpecker
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Re: spurrier won 4 or 5 close ones with luck***
Aug 29, 2013, 10:27 AM
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Only if you amitt you're an honors grad from CU, LOL!
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Re: spurrier won 4 or 5 close ones with luck***
Aug 29, 2013, 1:59 PM
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Nope but my kids are
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I'm not saying he can't coach college football
Aug 29, 2013, 9:20 AM
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He has obviously accomplished a lot. Won at dook, won at Florida, won at USuCk. But can you honestly say that right now, he's a better coach than Saban and Meyer? Both of those guys are coming off of undefeated seasons, one of them back-to-back NC's. Meyer did it in his first year at OSU implementing a new system with guys who didn't really fit his system, while on probation.
Spurrier has completely changed USuCk's program, but right now, it's a losing argument to say he's better than those two.
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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Lets don't get sectually heated up here.
Aug 29, 2013, 9:34 AM
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Do you really think Saban or Meyer could have done what he's done at USuCk? If you really believe that I'll respectfully disagree and refrain from being my typical overbearing self.
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this is where i snicker at you
Aug 29, 2013, 9:27 AM
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mentioning your pulse.
he's a #### fine coach. his best coaching decision for my money was dumping the fun n gun realizing it wasn't going to beat the top teams in the sec.
that's a big step for a 60+ year old coach who's been highly successful in his college days with it.
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TD'd and RA'd
Aug 29, 2013, 9:31 AM
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Anybody who wins 11 games (in one year) at the Columbia Trash Dump deserves to be mentioned with the best...but I would have a hard time ranking him above the Sabanator.
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Who's Saben? Is he any good?
Aug 29, 2013, 9:07 AM
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1. Saban
2. (ughh) Meyer
3. Patterson
4. Peterson
5. OU Stoops
It's not 1997 and SOS shouldn't be in the top 5.
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Re: Who's Saben? Is he any good?
Aug 29, 2013, 9:08 AM
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Give Stoops and SOS the same team and SOS wins more games. Just my $.02.
SC winning 11 games in two straight seasons when the SEC has never been stronger is a big accomplishment in my book.
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Where can we buy a copy of your
Aug 29, 2013, 9:09 AM
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book? Will you sign it for free?
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would you mind listing his biggest wins in those 2 years?
Aug 29, 2013, 9:11 AM
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georgia.
anyone else in the sec? lost to auburn 2 years ago at home to lose the east. he hasn't been back since the drubbing 56-17.
he's done a nice job in his TEN years, but top 5 in the country? that's generous.
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Re: would you mind listing his biggest wins in those 2 years?
Aug 29, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Last three years: Alabama, Georgia three times, Florida twice, Michigan, Nebraska, Clemson three times,
Tennessee three times.
This list is a who's who of college football's best programs.
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excellent, you can't follow directions...
Aug 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
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56-17, florida sucked those 2 years & lit scar up last year, tennessee sucked all 3, nice win against alabama see also 56-17.
michigan, clemson, nebraska none of which are in the sec. you have trouble following the thread or you want to play all time records?
i mentioned georgia for you. you lost 2 of 3 eastern halfs because you couldn't finish. nice auburn loss at home.
stellar.
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What he's done at USuCk the last two years is
Aug 29, 2013, 9:11 AM
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undoubtedly unbelievable but to say the SEC has never been stronger is a joke. UT and UF have been down the last 5 years (I know UF won 11 games last year but they struggled against a lot of bad teams). The SEC East has been nowhere as good as it was 5 years ago and the Coots have benefitted from that vacuum.
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If this is not the strongest the SEC has ever been
Aug 29, 2013, 11:31 AM
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If the SEC is not the strongest it's ever been, could you tell me what year did more than 5 SEC teams finish in the top 9 in the final AP poll. What year did they do better than win their 7th straight NC? And what year did more than 7 SEC teams finish in the top 25? The preseason polls seem to indicate no drop off this year.
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what sec east teams, and when, did they help with those 7
Aug 29, 2013, 12:01 PM
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straight mnc's. however,if you respond you will be helping our side out with your answer. thanks in advance.
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Recruiting is part of being a HC in CFB though, you can't
Aug 29, 2013, 9:15 AM
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just ignore it. You could argue that Paul Johnson is the best coach in the ACC if you only look at gameday coaching, but look at what's happened to that program as it has transitioned from Gailey recruits to PJ recruits.
Stoops has a national title and a boat load of Big XII championships. Sure he's gotten handled a few times in title games and other big bowls, but he's consistently put a great product on the field, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
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Re: Who's Saben? Is he any good?
Aug 29, 2013, 10:26 AM
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The sec has never been stronger? LMAO hit, hit, pass
That's got to be some great stuff you're smoking.
Tenn. -down
Fla - down
Vandy - really?
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Ark
All those bring fear? to jr high team maybe
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Florida is down?***
Aug 29, 2013, 11:26 AM
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Re: Florida is down?***
Aug 29, 2013, 1:57 PM
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What's fla done in 3 yrs
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Re: Florida is down?***
Aug 29, 2013, 1:58 PM
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Got raped by UL
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Urban Meyer should be top 2
Aug 29, 2013, 9:08 AM
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he has a good case to be #1, to leave him off a top 5 list is asinine.
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Any list without Meyer is a joke. IMO he's clearly #2.
Aug 29, 2013, 9:12 AM
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1) Saban
2) Meyer
*big gap*
3-5) Some combination of Patterson, Stoops, and Spurrier.
I love Shaw, but I'm not quite ready to put him up there yet.
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No, no, no.
Aug 29, 2013, 9:13 AM
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1) Nick Saban
2) Kevin Sumlin
3) David Shaw
4) Urban Meyer
5) Dabo Swinney
That's my list. It took spurlid 9 freaking years to get his team relevant. None of the above took more than 3 seasons.
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I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 9:20 AM
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if you can't step back and recognize that he's a great coach, you are just letting the rivalry hatred completely blind you. The man won at Duke, he dominated the SEC and won a national championship at UF, and he has taken one of the worst programs in the country and turned them into a 10-11 win team. Obviously it took him awhile to get things turned around there, but i have no idea where 9 years came from. They made the SEC title game in his 6th season and won 11 games in his 7th and 8th seasons.
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 9:28 AM
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I dont like him either but he is good. I just still smile at his Redskins debacle though
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 9:31 AM
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They were BLOWN OUT in their one, brief appearance in the title game. Nope, that doesn't quality as great.
The other coaches on my list have produced championship-calibre teams. Heck, I'd put Bob Stoops and Peterson in there as well if I could have seven ahead of Spurlid.
Spurrier, in his 9 years, hasn't. That's objective.
That is the proof of the pudding. He hasn't won squat.
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So you are judging him only on his tenure at SC
Aug 29, 2013, 9:55 AM
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and completely ignoring what he did at Florida??
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Re: So you are judging him only on his tenure at SC
Aug 29, 2013, 10:27 AM
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He back into the NC at fla.
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I'd love to back into a national championship. Where
Aug 29, 2013, 11:27 AM
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can i sign up?
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 10:06 AM
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Disagree on that! Spurrier beat the best Clemson talent Danny ever assembled in 1989, while at Duke, for goodness sakes. I think that got everyone's attention.
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 10:11 AM
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Wrong. Dabo has only begun assembling the talent. We won't see the fruit of that until this year.
We haven't come close to seeing the best yet, only a hint of what's to come.
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Repeat! Spurrier beat the best talent Danny ever assembled at Clemson, while he had Duke.
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Re: I've despised Spurrier since his days at UF, but
Aug 29, 2013, 10:51 AM
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Repeat: what has Spurlid won in the last 5 years? Zilch. Nada. Squat. Case closed.
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Re: No, no, no.
Aug 29, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Well, how about Dabo getting his team relevant enough to at least win the State Championship? No Tiger fan wants to go through that for another 365 days!
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Re: No, no, no.
Aug 29, 2013, 10:28 AM
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You tell'em coot
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Re: No, no, no.
Aug 29, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Thanks, magna ### laude!
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SOS definitely in top 5 but days at usc are numbered******
Aug 29, 2013, 9:44 AM
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 9:47 AM
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How the heck is Urban Meyer not on there..I would argue he's right there with Saban lol
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I thibk Bob Stoops could find his way on that list as well..
Aug 29, 2013, 9:48 AM
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he's fallen flat in some big games, but his teams consitently win conference titles and go to BCS games. Has finished in the top ten 10 times and has won 80% of his games. They havent been the most feard team in the past 2 years, but his career resume is right up there with the good ones.
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Re: I thibk Bob Stoops could find his way on that list as well..
Aug 29, 2013, 9:50 AM
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Agreed. Would also put Bielma in there as well.
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I'm fairly convinced that Beilema is a buffoon. I think
Aug 29, 2013, 9:56 AM
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he's going to be a disaster at Arkansas. Your list of guys in front of Spurrier continues to get more ridiculous.
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Re: I'm fairly convinced that Beilema is a buffoon. I think
Aug 29, 2013, 10:03 AM
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We'll see. But he'll have them more competitive in less time than it took your hero Spurlid.
Your list is the one drawing criticism btw, not mine.
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 10:02 AM
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I think the fact Spurrier changed his ways to win at USC shows he is deeper than most give him credit for.
Not many 60+ coaches with tons of success would change their philosophy so freely in order to succeed. Shows humility accepting that what he did in the past may not work in the present.
Keep in mind the last time he went head to head with Saban he won
those saying he hasn't won squat are clueless. Does that mean Clemson hadn't won squat since 91 until 2011
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pretty much, what did clemson win? if you list 5 goals to
Aug 29, 2013, 10:10 AM
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start the season you'd have to have conference championship as one & most importantly because it would be the 'natural' stepping stone to the next level.
spurrier hasn't done that at usuck & clemson went 20 years without one. that sux. sure, it could be worse, teams could have been duke & won legal battles over just how bad they are/were.
if conference titles weren't so important, usuck wouldn't have an 80 x 100 glossy photo of their 1 & lonely hanging in willy b.
it's hilarious.
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^^^^lols's,,,this***
Aug 29, 2013, 10:12 AM
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2 National Championships and a 7-1 Bowl Record
Aug 29, 2013, 10:16 AM
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In 11 years of head coaching. How is Urban Meyer not on this list? Alabama is the only school in the country who would keep their HC over Meyer.
N.Saban
U.Meyer
S.Spurrier
C.Strong
G.Patterson
I would but Dabo close on mine, I think he is on a huge up swing, just like Strong but I want to see this year before I move him above anyone.
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Re: 2 National Championships and a 7-1 Bowl Record
Aug 29, 2013, 10:30 AM
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C Strong really?
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 10:30 AM
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Cmon.. I dont like Spurrier.. but he won 11 games at SCar... that deserves some credit.
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 11:02 AM
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What has Spurrier won
Let's see 11 games back to back - never happened at either state school and both have been playing for a long time
Beat #1 Bama Neither school had ever beaten a #1 team
beat Clemson 4 times in a row not in a long time
I would say he has done plenty and most of the nation would agree
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Zero championships. Your only championship banner from 1969 still flies.....pathetic.
Sorry, y'all are chumps. Win something, then come back and talk when you've been there. Till then, keep pecking dirt.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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i'm surprised they've not put a pic & bio of the 1 & lonely
Aug 29, 2013, 1:23 PM
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on match.com or something.
couldn't hurt.
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Oculus Spirit [96805]
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Maybe their 1969 banner has taken a vow of celibacy?
Aug 29, 2013, 1:34 PM
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It's a thought.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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maybe, but even a convent has more than 1 nun bob...
Aug 29, 2013, 1:47 PM
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h3ll, a chastity belt would be something.
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110%er [9646]
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Seriously, Sack should be #1. Easily.
Aug 29, 2013, 12:10 PM
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A coach that can elevate the ##### to a 5th place finish in the SEC in that God-forsaken heck-hole that is Columbia, SC - has GOT to be the best coach ever.
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All-In [36207]
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If this were the Top 5 Douches The Top 2 Would Be Right***
Aug 29, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Spurlid and Saban tied for #1 in dewshbaggery***
Aug 29, 2013, 12:26 PM
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Dabo is the best in my book***
Aug 29, 2013, 1:24 PM
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Re: Top 5 Coaches in the country entering 2013
Aug 29, 2013, 1:29 PM
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1. Dabo Swinney
2. Chad Morris
3. Brent Venables
4. Dabo Swinney
5. Nick Saban
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