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Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 19, 2021, 11:08 PM
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We have new starters at 9 of 11 positions. Only holdovers at the same position as last year are Putnam at RG and Galloway at TE.
Yes we recruit great, but even great recruits need game time together. Call it an excuse, but when was the last time anyone remembers this type situation?
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Haven't we led the nation the last two years in the number
Sep 19, 2021, 11:11 PM
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of people we play?First time starters? Sure, but they SHOULD have gotten plenty of reps
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PT is one thing
Sep 19, 2021, 11:21 PM
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Playing together is another, especially on the OL. We have a C who has never played C, a true Freshman LG, and a new LT. DJ has never played with Ross, and hardly played with Ngata and Ladson as they were hurt most of last season. True Freshman starting RB.
We wonder why we look so disjointed? This isn't all of it, but it's part of it
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Well, yeah, of course it is part of it...So is bad
Sep 20, 2021, 12:36 AM
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evaluations, poor development, injuries and bad gameplanning/playcalling...Were you to make a pie chart, I would think it would have several wedges, not just one or two
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Yet when/if this one comes together
Sep 20, 2021, 7:06 AM
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others will fall in to place. You ever worked somewhere where everyone is new? I have, and it's normally chaotic for a while. Until folks settle in and a comfort level develops
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Yes it has
Sep 20, 2021, 7:09 AM
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But OL is all about working together. These guys have never done that. DJ has hardly worked with these WR in games. It's obviously affected his confidence.
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They HAVE done that.
Sep 20, 2021, 6:55 PM
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All spring, fall camp, and THREE weeks of game prep. So, the excuse that these guys have never met won’t hold water, padre.
A GT team that lost to NIU imposed their will on our offense. That shouldn’t happen to our reserves, much less our starting offense… ever.
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Games are kind of different***
Sep 20, 2021, 7:41 PM
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 19, 2021, 11:16 PM
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Nothing to see here folks, make sure to sip the Orange cool aid and don’t forget to tip your bartender
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Legend [19567]
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Nah, just realistic enough to understand
Sep 20, 2021, 7:12 AM
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that when new people play new positions at 9 of 11 spots, it can be sketchy. Hopefully, just for a while
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I'm sorry, are Ngata and Ladson new players playing a new
Sep 20, 2021, 3:16 PM
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position? Didn't they both start LAST year at the SAME position?
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Re: I'm sorry, are Ngata and Ladson new players playing a new
Sep 20, 2021, 3:58 PM
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Hardly....they barely played much last year because they stayed injured through it. Rodgers and Powell played the majority of the time, and were more the main guys at those positions.
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So the passing game struggled last year because we lost
Sep 20, 2021, 5:25 PM
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Ladson and Ngata and this year it suffers because they aren't seasoned, as juniors, on a team that has led the nation the two previous seasons at playing people...Do I have that right?
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Yes, but were they starters LAST year?***
Sep 20, 2021, 6:22 PM
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Maybe a few games before Powell broke out
Sep 20, 2021, 7:10 PM
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and they got hurt to start the year. As someone stated above, primary wide outs were Powell and Rogers. Neither played when DJ started. Ngata was hurt again in camp. At least the light looks to be coming on for him. Ladson is in his 3rd year of meh
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Oh, I KNOW who the primary WRs were last year and CP was
Sep 20, 2021, 7:26 PM
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BURIED on the depth chart until Ladson and Ngata got injured...But they were both starting before they got injured, which is the point that you seem to be avoiding...It's funny how much was made of their absence last year
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Both have been disappointing to be honest
Sep 20, 2021, 7:52 PM
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in all but a handful of games, neither started. JMO, returning starters started most of the games, not a couple here and there
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 7:30 AM
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Nothing to see here folks, make sure to sip the Orange cool aid and don’t forget to tip your bartender
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 7:32 AM
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Nothing to see here folks, make sure to sip the Orange cool aid and don’t forget to tip your bartender
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 19, 2021, 11:31 PM
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I think this is a BIG part of it.
- While we return the majority of our Lineman, most of them are not in their normal position.
- We cross train the lineman, a lot, which is great long term. But in the early going, there is bound to be mistakes and hesitancy b/c of all the back and forth playing multiple positions.
- Ross is a big talent, but he he didn't play for 18 months, and now he's in the slot.
- New QB, RB as well.
- Dabo, by design, starts from scratch every year. With that said, I think the playbook gets installed slowly throughout the season, especially with new QBs.
- Also, we have a New RB coach, New TE Coach, and the WR coach is in his 2nd year.
None of these are meant to be excuses. We look like a brand new offense, with a whole new coaching staff and new players and every position.
I certainly expect us to get better in the coming weeks. However, I don't think we're going to be a bit of a shell of what we were the last 2 years.
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 19, 2021, 11:47 PM
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So are you saying that we are retooling?
Are we retooling?
Please tell me we are retooling so I can ask you how Alabama manages to retool every year and look in sync because we sure as heck look like a kitchen sink with a bunch of cracks or a suit of armour with holes.
Is that a good enough excuse?
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 7:28 AM
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Amen to that. Alabama has two key things...great talent and great coaching. Clemson has achieved both on defense. On offense, Clemson has talent in skill positions primarily and coaching has regularly been a question mark?
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 1:18 PM
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When you say regularly are you referring to this season? Last season? Last two seasons? Asking for clarification because it matters what time frame you are speaking of as to how silly it sounds
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Bama had 331 total yards Saturday
Sep 20, 2021, 8:45 AM
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and only 91 rushing. Might want to hold off on the anointing for a bit.
Florida is a good team. Tech isnt. But Bama after two gimmes didnt blow the doors off last weekend
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 8:10 PM
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Bama had the #1 recruiting class 9 of the last 10 years.
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 1:17 PM
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And I remember a few years again Bama being tied 10-10 with the Citadel at halftime of a game. They were notoriously slow starting on offense for several years. But the good news is Nicky survived and is still winning so there’s hope for Dabo….
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Re: Offensive struggles explained?
Sep 20, 2021, 4:24 AM
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You can't be serious. Ross has started, Lynn J might as well have, Davis Allen has, bockhorst has, Ladson, ngata, and EJ have played a ton if not started some. This isn't some brand new team of new guys trying to learn to play.
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Legend [19567]
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Ross hasnt played in 18 months and is out of
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