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Top TigerNet [30960]
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Step back and look at the season....
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:31 PM
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outside of the Duke blowout....
Close loss vs Fl State
Double OT loss vs Miami
Both games were completely winnable games.
To say we cant win out is a bogus statement.
I think this team has shown it can beat anyone...but it can also lose to anyone.
Only time will tell but I am not counting us out from winning any game left on the schedule.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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look at each season since 2018 NC game......
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:39 PM
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downward trend for the last 5 years............slow at first 2019-2020......then picked up steam tumbling down the mountain........2021-present.
gotta look BIG PICTURE.
Dabo's refusal to adapt his philosophies, hires, roster management, etc... to the "NEW ERA" of college football is the reason we are where we are.
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Top TigerNet [30960]
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Re: look at each season since 2018 NC game......
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:43 PM
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im not suggesting anything about the big picture...i think its quite obvious whats happening with the program...Im just stating that counting any games left on the schedule as an automatic loss is bogus, because all remaining games are just as much winnable as they are losable
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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I agree with that......
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:49 PM
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just don't let a "theoretical" win-out blind/distract from the REAL issues plaguing the program................those problems will still exist whether we win the remaining or lose the remaining, until Dabo sets his ego/pride aside and make the proper fixes to the program.
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Top TigerNet [30960]
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Re: I agree with that......
Oct 23, 2023, 3:06 PM
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there's a real possibility of a win-out and also a real possibility of a lose-out. Im just pointing out that many are calling losses that havent happened and though we have some REAL issues...this team isn't a terrible team. Just an ugly one from an execution standpoint.
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Game Day Hero [4287]
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Re: look at each season since 2018 NC game......
Oct 23, 2023, 4:58 PM
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With the line play on both sides of the ball against Miami, I would say that notre dame is a definite loss (as definite as it can be before it’s played). Outside of that I would agree that the rest are definitely a toss up.
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Thats only possible if we stop turning the ball over
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:48 PM
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Averaging 3 turnovers a game is a recipe for disaster. Couple that in with the multiple three and outs, and that’s limited scoring opportunities.
Now if we cut out the turnovers and the three and outs, I predict we will win out. But we need to prove it this week against NC State. The players on the offensive side of the ball need a serious wake up call.
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Top TigerNet [30707]
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While you're back there, take a look at who we've beaten.***
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:50 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11544]
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I agree they are capable. It is just a matter of getting out of
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Oct 23, 2023, 1:56 PM
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their own way.
My 40+ years of watching Clemson Football have told me that once a team starts exhibiting these Jekyll/Hyde traits, they show back up in a future loss. But we will see.
Also I full expect for Dabo to become the all time winningest head coach in Clemson Football history this coming weekend. He’s got a lot to fix to bring this staff and team back to National Championship status. But he’s earned that right in my book.
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Legend [6955]
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at this point, its in their head. It's in my head as a fan. Even the announcer
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:02 PM
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said it right before Shipley fumbled (announcer jinx). Once you get those thoughts in your head - they become a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Can't agree . . .
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:01 PM
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A) I'm not sure why we would need to isolate Duke out of the analysis (other than to skew the analysis positively)- it is very relevant data.
B) Trajectory matters - not just a bunch of games in isolation. The trajectory is bad, and the improvement across the course of the season is minimal and not steady. The turnovers and and OL and WR problems and other bad play is still with us, and ND and NC are better than most teams we've played thus far.
C) To say that games that were lost were winnable is to admit that if they were won they would have been easily "lose-able," (Like you said, we could lose to anyone). Teams that are constantly cutting it close to the edge, **and** that have a bad trajectory, are a horrible bet to win out. Could they win out in theory? Sure, in theory, but that's, well, just theoretical. In all likelihood, Clemson won't win out.
The problems are piling up for SC but I haven't seen any reason from us to expect that we'll necessarily beat them either. My expectation is a loss to UNC and ND, wins vs. GT and NCS, and SC a toss-up.
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Oculus Spirit [42589]
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Re: Can't agree . . .
Oct 23, 2023, 2:02 PM
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Well said.
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Re: Can't agree . . .
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Since we are talking trajectory, we haven't lost in two straight days. So things are trending up! 🤣
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We are absolutely capable of winning out.
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We probably won’t, but we are capable.
That is what makes this version of Clemson football so frustrating.
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Athletic Dir [1135]
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Re: We are absolutely capable of winning out.
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Oct 23, 2023, 2:30 PM
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Not sure why GT is a lock since they beat Miami and beat Wake worse than we did. Both away games. Did anyone else watch the last 3 1/2 quarters cringing that on every tackle you’re hoping we don’t fumble?
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I dont see how you can look at this team
Oct 23, 2023, 2:08 PM
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And think we are remotely close to winning out
Possible? Sure - but it’s a <1% chance
Could easily lose @ NCST next week and that might be the easiest game we have left on the schedule this year
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Game Changer [2045]
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Re: I dont see how you can look at this team
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I believe you meant 1.5%
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Re: Step back and look at the season....
Oct 23, 2023, 2:48 PM
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Well, the first thing we need to do is getting our QB to execute the same play as the other 10 guys are running.
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Methinks we have caught whatever was going around here in Nebraska
Oct 23, 2023, 5:12 PM
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b/c we look like them in finding ways to ###### defeat from the jaws of victory.
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