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Orange Elite [5328]
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Why is MAGA pushing a spending bill
May 22, 2025, 6:37 AM
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that will increase the deficit by 4T. What happened to balancing the budget and eliminating the debt. I thought "A Businessman " was elected? 😆
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Re: Why is MAGA pushing a spending bill
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May 22, 2025, 6:42 AM
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Because the all the money that now stays with the wealthy will trickle down. We will all do better thanks to the trickle down. We will all spend more due to it which will raise more tax revenue and balance the budget. Yeah...that's what will happen.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52919]
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There are 2 choices:
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May 22, 2025, 6:45 AM
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The largest tax cut in US history or the largest tax increase in US history.
I prefer the former. If passed and you are upset you can always cut a check for the difference and mail it to the treasury.
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Re: There are 2 choices:
May 22, 2025, 6:56 AM
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So we need to give more huge tax cuts to the wealthy? I am all for it. I think we should get rid of Medicare too. We need to slash everything and stop the spending, aside from the military where we should increase spending . We need to cut food for families as well. Whatever it takes. At the same time we need to give the wealthy larger tax cuts. Ideally they would pay no taxes.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: There are 2 choices:
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May 22, 2025, 6:59 AM
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Didn't we elect "a businessman" who is suppose to excel in this area? Why has he sucked so far at this and failed to deliver in his promise of eliminating the debt? He said it would be easy. 😆
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Re: There are 2 choices:
May 22, 2025, 7:00 AM
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What are you talking about? He is a great businessman. He is killing it.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Tax cuts are pointless if...
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May 22, 2025, 7:52 AM
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We keep adding to the debt and at the same time, upending the economy.
If Trump mailed you turd sandwiches, you'd eat them.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52919]
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Have you written your tax hike check yet?
May 22, 2025, 7:59 AM
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Get going. The Treasury is waiting on idiots like you.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Have you embraced more wasteful spending...
May 22, 2025, 8:10 AM
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After lying about wanting it cut?
Wait, you're already doing it.
All of you MAGA are hypocritical liars.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52919]
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Wasteful spending?
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May 22, 2025, 8:28 AM
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Please read the Green New Deal and the Inflation Reduction Act from the previous POTUS-less administration.
Get back to me later. And be sure to send your voluntary check in to the treasury asap.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Oh, so now you admit that wasteful spending and adding to the debt is wrong?
May 22, 2025, 8:33 AM
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Thanks. Glad you admitted out loud that Trump and the Pubs are ####### this up.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52919]
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Don't put words in my mouth
May 22, 2025, 9:10 AM
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You're to stupid to read what I wrote.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Re: Don't put words in my mouth
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May 22, 2025, 9:45 AM
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We read what you wrote. You haven't addressed why "the businessman" sucks at the national debt and deficit. This is something you guys promised he would fix. You got played. 😆
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Nope, you only oppose wasteful spending when it's the Dems
May 22, 2025, 9:50 AM
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But you're just fine with it when it's Trump.
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Ring of Honor [22384]
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Some economists estimate $6 T & significant adverse economic ramifications
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May 22, 2025, 7:01 AM
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Perhaps hyperbole but the warnings are coming from various different “expert” sources. Consequences include long term impacts to bond markets, stock markets, recession etc.
But did you hear we got a new “used” airplane! It has gold decoration and lots of bathroomds. How cool is that?
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Some economists said that bammycare would pay for itself***
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May 22, 2025, 7:24 AM
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Re: Some economists said that bammycare would pay for itself***
May 22, 2025, 7:47 AM
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Not really.
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Why aren't you embracing it ? Dems love spending money.***
May 22, 2025, 7:21 AM
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Ring of Honor [22384]
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Simple minded people fit their world into broad categories
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May 22, 2025, 7:26 AM
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Due to an inability to understand complexity, nuance and difficult subjects.
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Top TigerNet [30785]
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Like the climate change and 57 genders nonsense ?
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May 22, 2025, 7:34 AM
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Let me go look at my ice core crystal ball and predict the future.
You rubes will fall for anything if it sounds complicated.
Sometimes you should step back, listen to what's being said in totality, and say "That's stupid".
PS, the Wuhan Coronavirus being down the street from the bat soup food truck was just a coincidence ...
a 1:73,000,000,000 coincidence.
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Ring of Honor [22384]
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Seems to be another example of creating broad categories
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May 22, 2025, 7:50 AM
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To satisfy a simple minded construct of the world.
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Re: Seems to be another example of creating broad categories
May 22, 2025, 8:42 AM
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It's bizarre.
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Re: Like the climate change and 57 genders nonsense ?
May 22, 2025, 7:54 AM
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You're in a cult with a cult leader who is the biggest bullshyter of all time and you call other people rubes that will fall for everything. What a clown. You described yourself bro.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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I think it's reasonable to question the CBO's analysis based on GDP...
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May 22, 2025, 7:31 AM
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growth of +1.6% (might be +1.8% - I'm going off memory).
The same analysis using ~+2.4% results in a deficit neutral bill. I think there's a reasonable case to be made that +2.4% is achievable based on the tax plan and reduction of regulations that limit economic growth...AND if sanity prevails on the tariff/protectionism front.
One thing I do know, the CBO estimates/projections are often way off. Just look at their scoring of the previous TCJA. They missed the revenue projection by a pretty big margin (meaning they estimated a lot less revenue than actually came in).
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Ring of Honor [22384]
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That optimistic. Thought it had to be significantly higher than 2.5%***
May 22, 2025, 7:41 AM
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Orange Elite [5452]
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It's such a wild take that the CBO got it slightly wrong
May 22, 2025, 10:15 AM
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when the bill needed 7% growth to make it revenue neutral.
It's just unbelievable logic from the right.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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I think that's a given...
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May 22, 2025, 8:04 AM
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plus I'm the town idiot
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Orange Elite [5452]
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Joking about that when the bill cuts 258 billion for SNAP
May 22, 2025, 9:59 AM
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means you're probably not actually a good person.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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Did it cut your proposal...
May 22, 2025, 10:03 AM
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That the government provide steak dinners every night for every American citizen? That's what you argued for yesterday.
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Orange Elite [5452]
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Pro Tip: You need to actually catch me in a logical fallacy
May 22, 2025, 10:21 AM
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because that's when it hurts. That's why your feelings got so hurt yesterday because you know you were wrong.
Making up a strawman to argue against, just makes you look worse. Because it just shows the gap between our logical reasoning.
HTH.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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But that's what you said. You just didn't know you said it.***
May 22, 2025, 10:23 AM
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Orange Elite [5452]
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^^^ See how effective that line hurts when it's actually true
May 22, 2025, 10:25 AM
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It's been 24 hours and you're still hurting.
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Tiger Titan [48917]
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I think it's pretty ridiculous how
May 22, 2025, 10:29 AM
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You claim that people experience pain for more than 24 hours because ibuprofen is actually a ruse by Big Pharma.
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Paw Master [17333]
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"Spending" is synonymous with "Bill".
May 22, 2025, 9:59 AM
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Even a bill that cuts gov't spending, costs $$ to implement. That is the current state of our gov't and it seems that we are all fine with it.
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Orange Elite [5574]
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Re: Why is MAGA pushing a spending bill
May 22, 2025, 10:03 AM
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First off, the idea that this $4 trillion deficit increase is somehow the fault of “MAGA” is completely dishonest. The current spending bill is a bipartisan package, shaped by negotiations between House Republicans, Senate Democrats, and the Biden administration. If you actually read the bill or follow Congressional developments, you’d know this isn’t some pure MAGA initiative — it’s a political compromise.
Now let’s talk about the numbers. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that interest on the national debt alone will top $1.6 trillion per year by 2033, outpacing defense spending. This has nothing to do with MAGA and everything to do with decades of uncontrolled mandatory spending — namely Social Security and Medicare, which now consume over two-thirds of the federal budget. Neither party has addressed this structurally.
As for the businessman jab — under Trump, pre-COVID economic growth averaged 2.5%, with record-low unemployment (3.5% in Feb 2020), rising real wages (particularly for blue-collar workers), and tax revenues that increased post-Tax Cuts and Jobs Act due to economic expansion. The national debt did rise — largely due to COVID relief spending supported by both parties, including the $2.2 trillion CARES Act, passed 97-0 in the Senate.
Meanwhile, Biden added over $5 trillion in new proposed spending within his first two years — from the American Rescue Plan ($1.9T) to the Inflation Reduction Act ($750B) and more. Don’t pretend this deficit explosion started with MAGA.
If you’re truly worried about the deficit, start asking why Democrats continue to push massive spending with no meaningful entitlement reform, and why neither party is willing to touch the third rail of American politics — mandatory spending. Until then, scapegoating MAGA for a broken budget system that’s been decades in the making just exposes political bias.
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Orange Elite [5328]
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You tried
May 22, 2025, 11:12 PM
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Orange Elite [5328]
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Duplicate
May 22, 2025, 11:13 PM
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Nm
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Re: Why is MAGA pushing a spending bill
May 22, 2025, 10:13 AM
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We get what we vote for is all I can say here. Nobody wants to hear taxes need to rise on everyone, you are gonna have to pay more in SS/Medicare FICA rates, we may need a VAT. Nobody wins nomination on that platform now do they? Really you are so one sided though, the DEMS spend like drunken sailors in ports after a 6 month tour ,they just spend on different items. Both sides set us up for the same thing, a debt bomb, just admit it and move on.
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