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I think if there's one thing our education system needs
Mar 15, 2016, 8:56 AM
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It's to make the standards lower. Great.
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TigerNet Elite [69768]
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It's not about lowering standards....
Mar 15, 2016, 8:57 AM
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it's about competing on a level playing field with other states.
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All-In [26968]
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So a 90 is not now an A instead of a B?
Mar 15, 2016, 8:59 AM
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That's a lowering of the standard.
Maybe they're not doing it expressly because they want to lower the standard, but factually and objectively, it certainly is doing that.
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Just wait a few minutes and then
Mar 15, 2016, 9:11 AM
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CM Shack will be along to tell you about how a 90 is more than a 93 anyway
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All-TigerNet [12943]
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good luck with that
Mar 15, 2016, 12:36 PM
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CM Shack will just deflect
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Mar 15, 2016, 2:05 PM
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Re: So a 90 is not now an A instead of a B?
Mar 16, 2016, 2:49 PM
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No it's really not lowering the standard. Just because the amount of points it takes to get an A is three points less has nothing to do with the amount of education one will receive in this state. If anything it might be used as an incentive to get students to try harder to get better grades.
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Re: It's not about lowering standards....
Mar 15, 2016, 10:25 AM
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good!! they already are so low that students graduate that can not read or write!how low can U go???????????????
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Tiger Titan [48524]
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Irony.***
Mar 15, 2016, 12:35 PM
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Re: It's not about lowering standards....
Mar 15, 2016, 11:20 AM
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It's too bad that we have to go down to level the field. Nobody will ever come up to level the field. Another case of "dumbing down America".
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All-In [26968]
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That's fine.
Mar 15, 2016, 9:03 AM
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I'm not against it, per se. But it is a lowering of the standard. I believe this to be ironic, since so many people talk about how poor education is in SC.
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All-In [26968]
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As a math kinda guy, it is much more pleasing
Jul 6, 2022, 9:58 PM
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to do things in 10s.
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Re: That's fine.
Mar 15, 2016, 9:28 AM
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I think you meant to say " how poor the education is AT South Carolina " .
People helping people.
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Making a 90 an A instead of a B isn't impacting the
Mar 15, 2016, 11:18 AM
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level of education that a child receives.
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Re: Scoring 90% is still scoring 90% no matter
Mar 16, 2016, 6:41 AM
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Not exactly true. While a 90 is still a 90, the lowering of the standard comes when it is converted to a GPA. For example, a student that currently has a 90 in every class would have a 3.0 GPA on the HS transcript sent to colleges for admissions. That same student under the new system would have that 90 in every class translate to. 4.0 GPA on his HS transcript. Yes, the 90 remained the same but the standard was lowered where that 90 now equals a 4.0 GPA instead of the 3.0 GPA it did.
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Re: Scoring 90% is still scoring 90% no matter
Mar 17, 2016, 7:02 AM
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SC doesn't work this way and never has been this way. All As are not a 4.0. Currently in CP courses 93=4.0 94=4.125 95=4.250 etc. Honors is worth .5 more than CP. AP is worth 1.0 more than CP. (both were worth a full point more under the pre-2001 model).
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I've known Molly Spearman for years....
Mar 15, 2016, 8:56 AM
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She's quite possibly the best Superintendent of Education this State has elected in decades.
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Word to that... and much better than the last guy.***
Mar 15, 2016, 8:58 AM
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TigerNet Elite [69768]
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The last guy was an absolute moron***
Mar 15, 2016, 9:06 AM
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I think the correct bored spelling is moran.
Mar 15, 2016, 11:07 AM
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But, I regress.
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Should've been done years ago***
Mar 15, 2016, 9:14 AM
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Re: SC high schools will go to 10-point scale
Mar 15, 2016, 8:57 AM
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Thank goodness.
The current grading scale is ridiculous and confusing.
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Let's get an edge on Ga. and N.C. and go to ....
Mar 15, 2016, 9:22 AM
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a 20 point scale, since this system is not lowering standards. 80-100=A 60-80 =B 40-60 =C 20-40 = D
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Just use UNCheat's GPA scale....
Mar 15, 2016, 12:21 PM
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The ole 30 point scale ...
71-100 A 41-70 B but round up to an A 11-40 B and we mean it this time 0-10 C and diploma in AFAM studies
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+1***
Mar 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
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Re: Let's get an edge on Ga. and N.C. and go to ....
Mar 15, 2016, 2:53 PM
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This change is really an embarrassment. So if Texas goes to a 58 is an A we must change in order to compete with them?
Terrible idea. A degree from UNC is distorted and nothing happened with fake classes and now here we go with lowering standards in high schools across a great state.
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Back to what it was when I was in HS. Old is new ...***
Mar 15, 2016, 10:22 AM
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I did not read the article, but grading scales should not be
Mar 15, 2016, 11:24 AM
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rocket science.
IT SHOULD BE LIKE THIS:
90-100 = A 80-89 = B 70-79 = C < 70 = F
*60-69 = D (FOR COLLEGE USE ONLY)
Thank you.
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The REAL NEWS ON THIS....
Mar 15, 2016, 11:41 AM
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Greenville County currently has a grade floor of 61. That means no student can make below a 61. So if they dont do any assignments, the lowest they can make is a 61. Under a 10 point scale....a 61 is passing. So in Greenville next year, it will literally be impossible to fail a class. I'm all good with the ten point scale. But Greenville County just really pulled a fast one.
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CU Guru [1027]
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Or they could just lower it to 51
Mar 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
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To be fair, I don't like the idea if a grade floor very much.
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Re: SC high schools will go to 10-point scale
Mar 15, 2016, 12:05 PM
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I am a military brat. I went to 7 different schools between 1st grade and 12th. I started high school my freshman year up north....in November of that year my Dad retired and we moved back to South Carolina. At the high school I went to up north, I had to fight for A's and B's on a 10 point scale. At the high school I went to in SC, I did the bare minimum for A's and B's on a 7 point scale.
I always thought that the 7 point scale helped even the field some because the curriculum and the expectations were much different at the time.
Maybe I just had better teachers in SC. Maybe the curriculum and expectations have become more standardized since I was in school. To me it is not just about the point scale.....but what is expected from a student.
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Agreed
Mar 15, 2016, 12:12 PM
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My HS switched from a 5 point scale to a 10-point scale after my sophomore year. Oddly enough nobody's GPA really changed. C-Students didn't become B-Students overnight. It doesn't really change anything.
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Re: Agreed
Mar 15, 2016, 3:07 PM
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My SC Highschool's GPA was calculated using the specific specific number grade and what level classes you were in. I'm not really sure what this really changes.
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Orange Blooded [2477]
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I never was sure when a 93 became an A
Mar 16, 2016, 2:53 PM
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When I graduated HS in SC in 1987 it took a 95 to get an A, a 93 was a B. I moved out of state after graduating Clemson in 1992 and moved back to SC in 1999 and my kids go to school here and low and behold a 93 is an A. It was lowering standards to me because they would say they had straight A's but I would tell them not by my scale!
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Re: I never was sure when a 93 became an A
Mar 16, 2016, 10:55 PM
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You are completely misremembering. Prior to the change in 2001 the grade point scale was 90-100 A, 80-90 B, 70-80 C. 60-70 D, then F. This standard was codified in the 70s and not changed until the current system. I would love for you to link me any school district documentation that has a 90-95 = "B" grade curve. The only possible exception being a private school grading on a curve where letter grades would be variable. But that still wouldn't mean 90=B, it could actually mean 90 = A+. Public high schools aren't allowed to grade this way.
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