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TigerNet Zenith XVII [∞]
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Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 4:32 PM
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The news that UCLA and USC are moving to the Big Ten (or B1G) is exciting, but it's just the first of many moves that will happen. And some of this stuff will happen quick.
Had one source text me and tell me that UCLA and USC were a "done deal" and then another that said Clemson and Notre Dame would follow suit. I know a lot of Clemson fans just assume that if there was a conference change, it would be to the SEC. But the SEC has a South Carolina team and there are so many different layers other than football - like Olympic sports and even academics. And from that standpoint, Clemson would fall more in line with the B1G move. However, Clemson is not a part of the AAU (both UCLA and USC are), and people have said that if and when the B1G expands, they want AAU schools (Nebraska is currently the only conference member not an AAU school).
So, there is a lot of stuff to look at. A lot to consider. And I would think Clemson to B1G before the SEC, just because of things I've heard. But things are changing - fast - and I don't believe Clemson will be left behind. But where and when? All remains to be seen.
If you have a question, keep in mind we are moving today and tomorrow and I am mostly away from the laptop. But I will get to the questions when I can. Right now? No sources from Clemson are saying anything, and I am not sure there is anything they COULD say. But a lot of national people who have contacts across the country are buzzing.
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I hope and pray we do not go to the B1G...
Jun 30, 2022, 4:34 PM
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In fact, I request a seat at the discussion table.
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Better than getting left out entirely, no?***
Jun 30, 2022, 4:37 PM
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Let's all hope it doesn't come to that.***
Jun 30, 2022, 4:40 PM
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CU Medallion [20801]
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Re: Let's all hope it doesn't come to that.***
Jun 30, 2022, 5:25 PM
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Christmas Day kid’s table ok?
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Re: Better than getting left out entirely, no?***
Jun 30, 2022, 4:44 PM
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could make those road Rowing trips to Michigan in February more interesting
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I didn’t realize “SEC kind of guy” was synonymous with…
Jun 30, 2022, 7:36 PM
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good looking, but thank you.
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Heisman Winner [86025]
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LOL
Jul 1, 2022, 10:44 AM
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You just outed JK big time
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CU Medallion [20860]
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CU Medallion [20860]
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So moved.***
Jun 30, 2022, 10:56 PM
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TigerNet Zenith XVII [∞]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 4:44 PM
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Or....it could all blow up and there be a regional superconfernece. Or the SEC could accept Clemson and FSU. Or nothing happens. Who knows? But sort of fun to talk about
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MODS!!!***
Jun 30, 2022, 4:47 PM
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Starter [297]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 4:47 PM
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This is ruining college sports
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All-In [10856]
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Add that to the list of
Jun 30, 2022, 9:17 PM
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Things that are ruining college football on tigernet
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In addition...
Jun 30, 2022, 4:51 PM
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My "This date in tnet history" idea is off the table for you. Please do not attempt to use it at this time.
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Varsity [104]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Flagged for directionless mental master bation.
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Orange Blooded [2299]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Geez....from a financial standpoint that would be a windfall but i would absolutely hate those weekly matchups. I guess the opportunity to beat Michigan and OSU regularly would be great.
If Clemson is hitching it's wagon to the BB heads, how are they going to circumvent the GOR? ND certainly doesn't have to worry about that. I always assumed FSU and Clemson would be partnered up in leaving the ACC. It's a crazy realignment world out there right now!
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All-In [10856]
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Opposed to our thrilling conference
Jun 30, 2022, 9:20 PM
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Schedule currently ?
There would be a lot of hype around games w USC, PSU, OSU, Michigan
Nobody gives a crap when we mash Pitt in the acccg
I think it’d be good
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Solid Orange [1310]
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Have to make a move at this point
Jun 30, 2022, 4:56 PM
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If SeC doesn’t want to extend the invite I say screw then let’s get FSU, Miami and someone else to join a create a southern pod of a national conference.
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Re: Have to make a move at this point
Jul 1, 2022, 1:25 AM
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If Clemson and FSU go to the BigTen, then it is off to the races.
Stanford, Oregon, and Washington all sign on for the Big10 move because they all are in huge markets and are academic/athletic fits.
A bidding war erupts over Miami and UNC. The SEC eventually brings the most cash.
Super-conference mania is on!
Cal, Colorado, and Utah to the BigTen.
Virginia Tech to SEC and Virginia to BigTen.
ASU to SEC and U of A to Big 10.
Duke surprisingly goes SEC!
During the carnage UCF, Cincinnati, BYU, GT, Louisville, Oregon State, and Washington State to the Big 12.
BC, Syracuse, and Pitt end up in BigTen.
NC State and Wake go to the AAC in shame.
Notre Dame stays independent.
GT declares they are now independent, but no one cares.
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CU Medallion [19918]
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York, York, calling York...or at least the Dude...someone
Jun 30, 2022, 4:58 PM
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needs to keep us updated while DHood is moving on up.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101565]
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davidhood, have you reached out to
Jun 30, 2022, 4:59 PM
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The Dude of WV?
He's the leading authority on the subject.
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Re: davidhood, have you reached out to
Jun 30, 2022, 11:24 PM
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The Dude of WV?
He's the leading authority on the subject.
Lmao, I completely forgot about that guy.
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Ring of Honor [21043]
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That's a long way to travel for those
Jun 30, 2022, 5:00 PM
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Games and with little history it does not set up rivalry games except with that team with THE in front of it's name. Your thoughts?
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CU Medallion [20860]
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Ugh. The B1G is awful - all sports would lose out IMO.
Jun 30, 2022, 5:11 PM
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I don't see any scenario where pretty much the entire East Coast of the US doesn't have a viable and attractive football, basketball, or pretty much all-sports league. What a crappy deal for fans these leagues are cooking up.
Poach WVU, get ND on board (they may not have scheduling opps ahead if they sit this one out), and move on.
The biggest winner in all this may wind up being SCar. With 10 league games on their horizon they can finally cancel their annual series with us and save the annual humiliation.
Go Tigers!
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The Beasts of the East!
Jun 30, 2022, 8:40 PM
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Come and get us!
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 5:15 PM
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It will happen...whether it's the SEC or Big10, this is all about the destruction of the old guard - just like we're seeing with our Gov't now and the slow, orchestrated and systematic destruction of the old guard (left wing fascist cabal). The same with the corrupt PGA, and in this instance the corrupt NCAA...create a couple super conferences and they can make their own rules and tell the NCAA to finally pound sand.
This is The Great Awakening, we're going through the deprogramming phase right now as the sheep are too programmed and brainwashed to learn the truth abruptly; hence the slow dribble of truth coming out. But it's coming on all fronts.
Watch and see.
To that point, we'll see if it's the Big10 or SEC but my undestanding is that the old thought process of the SEC not wanting more than one school in a state (have USuC don't need Clemson) is not the case, they want the entire South.
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 5:23 PM
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I had not heard the SEC didn’t want two teams in the same state. Doesn’t make sense to me. They already have Bama/Auburn, ole Miss/ Miss St, Tenn/Vandy, and soon to be TAM/Texas.
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 5:35 PM
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One Super conference now taking two teams from the same city just threw water on that real fast. Why would you not take two from same state?
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 11:12 PM
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How about an SEC/ACC trade, Vandy for Clemson. I know Vandy wouldn’t want to give up the SEC $ though. ND is a better fit geographically for the BIG.
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CU Guru [1437]
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 9:36 AM
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Jesus Christ someone needs to block Infowars and fox news on your tv. You are kind of a nutter.
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 9:53 AM
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Wow after such an insightful first paragraph, you have me convinced ????
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There always seems to be a false sense of urgency and panic
Jun 30, 2022, 5:17 PM
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for Clemson to bolt the ACC created by these rumors over the years.
Perhaps that is the intent.
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Yes, SEC already has a team in SC, but I bet they dont
Jun 30, 2022, 5:23 PM
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want the BIG in their backyard possessing the REAL team from that state.
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Re: Yes, SEC already has a team in SC, but I bet they dont
Jul 1, 2022, 6:44 PM
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That's what I was thinking. It would be a real power move for the B1G to bring in a couple of schools in SEC territory. Would send a message if you ask me. Plus new rivalries would definitely spawn between the two conferences....this would almost guarantee at least one win a year against the sec haha.
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Is this poast some shady attempt to garner another POTD?
Jun 30, 2022, 5:24 PM
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 5:31 PM
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Rumors are that SEC is going after Notre Dame and North Carolina. SEC is also trying to improve Basketball.
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 5:43 PM
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Tv markets are diminishing in importance in the new age of streaming. It’s about content and brand power. Clemson has it right now and needs to capitalize.
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Im sure we will be heavily courted moving forward***
Jun 30, 2022, 5:46 PM
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Re: Im sure we will be heavily courted moving forward***
Jun 30, 2022, 6:08 PM
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I think the ACC will either go all in at a big name what's left out there and make things happen or get dissolved. This thing is moving fast and I hope Clemson is smart enough to jump ship before it sinks. But it's obvious today's news has been brewing for a while and there's more to come. The NCAA will be over.
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Re: Im sure we will be heavily courted moving forward***
Jun 30, 2022, 8:17 PM
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The only thing that makes sense for the ACC at this point is to somehow convince Notre Dame to join as a full member and also add West Virginia as the 16th member, which they could get at any time they want.
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CU Medallion [20888]
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Clemson fans are resilient David ... but
Jun 30, 2022, 6:50 PM
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Do not expect Clemson fans to road trip to Minnesota, Michigan and Iowa. For that reason, the SEC is a much better fit geographically as Tiger fans would enjoy trips to Auburn, Nashville, Ole Miss and more ... It may mean less $$, but it's a much better fit.
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Re: Clemson fans are resilient David ... but
Jun 30, 2022, 8:34 PM
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Does anyone really care if clemson fans show up? They would just release the unsold tickets to the masses and keep it pushing.
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Hall of Famer [9032]
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You ever been to Auburn AL in September?
Jul 1, 2022, 10:40 AM
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My Gawd, it was the hottest Ive ever been, and Ive been to Phoenix in the summer time. Not one single thing enjoyable about it, especially since we lost the game.
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 7:40 PM
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Clem, ND, Ohio st, Penn st, Michigan, and maybe FSU & UNC...
That would create one heck of a TV deal $$$$$$$$$$$$$!
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 8:15 PM
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Clemson going to the B1G would hurt recruiting because families of players in the southeast wouldn't be able to see their sons play as much. Remember what happened when there was all of that Clemson & FSU to the Big 12 talk? Recruits didn't like it and Dabo had to assure them that it wasn't going to happen.
Clemson going to the SEC would be a geographic fit, if it came down to those two mega-conferences in the future.
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Commissioner [1269]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 8:36 PM
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I'm sure with the nil money they can cover mom and dads trip to Ann Arbor. Every game is on tv anyway.
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 12:36 AM
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A lot of these kids parents have to fly to Clemson games already.
I don’t see the issue. It’s not Daniel high. We have kids from all over
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Solid Orange [1328]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Geographically the SEC does make more sense but adding ND and WVU to the ACC along with Pitt and Syracuse aren't exactly short trips for families either.
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Orange Blooded [2402]
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all sec teams wanted us before expansion but 1 and they
Jun 30, 2022, 9:38 PM
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black balled us
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Orange Elite [5205]
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SEC all the way….
Jun 30, 2022, 9:59 PM
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It’s a natural fit. I don’t want to visit Minnesota or Iowa in November. It’s cold.
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CU Medallion [18093]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 10:51 PM
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Change is good or at least I revelled in change when I was younger. Just couldn't wait for it because in most cases, chaos was cash. Not so much now that I'm older but as Toby Keith said "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was" so bring it on. Whether the Tigers stay in the ACC or go somewhere else, I'm a Tiger until the end.
https://youtu.be/ldQrapQ4d0Y
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Orange Elite [5257]
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Re: Realignment
Jun 30, 2022, 10:58 PM
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Why don't we go independent ??
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The guy who texted you about Clemson and FSU to
Jun 30, 2022, 11:13 PM
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to the Big 10, is he a Tiger from York, btw?
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CU Medallion [18874]
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Been talking to York Tiger.........
Jul 1, 2022, 8:18 AM
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Orange Beast [6579]
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 8:45 AM
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I read all of the conference realignment news last night and had to think about it for awhile. For some reason, this time feels different. I cannot believe that I am writing this but, I do not envision Clemson staying with the ACC. From a travel standpoint, I want the SEC. But I have to admit, the B1G would be intriguing and adding Clemson seems like the correct move for them. I sure am glad that I am not Neff right now. The poor guy is earning his paycheck with all of this. Clemson just needs to figure out a way to get out of paying all of the ACC exit fee because that is a LOT of money.
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 8:55 AM
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$52 million used to be a lot of money. With our gap in conference revenue, it would be made up in 2-3 years in either the B10 or SEC
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GOR means our $ stays with the conference
Jul 1, 2022, 11:03 AM
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It’s close to 1/2 billion if we exit today. That actually may be the low side. Depending on how GOR is written, it may(likely) mean the new value of rights from the new conference until 2036 which could be over a billion joining one of the SEC or BIG. Essentially GOR means you have to self fund your whole program for the duration of the contract. You either have to find a loophole - good luck- or perhaps the majority of teams or whatever the # is to disband the league. I imagine the other teams not wanting to leave would still have a case for $100millions in damages.
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CU Guru [1437]
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 9:40 AM
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Do you think there is any chance ND joins the ACC? All of their traditional rivals are not in the big 10. If not, ACC is kind of sunk. Like one post said, this time feels really different than the last realignment. I just don't see us being in the ACC for much longer.
I hope it's the SEC over the big tho.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 9:47 AM
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There is really only one question for Clemson or any ACC team... how tight is that GoR 2036? Any talk on that DavidHood®
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Re: Realignment
Jul 1, 2022, 1:52 PM
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Objectively, Clemson would be a great fit for the B1G. They gain a beachhead in the south for recruiting. They become the truly national superconference. We have a great brand and we have strong academics (and research levels that match many AAU schools).
Whether the B1G is the best fit for Clemson is a more difficult question.
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