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Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 10:27 AM
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200mg 2x daily Hydroxy Chloroquine(not Aquarium Cleaner) 500mg 1x daily Azithromycin 220mg 1x daily Zinc sulfate
350 patients • Breathing restored 3-4 hours • Zero deaths • Zero hospitalizations • Zero intubations
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 10:37 AM
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Don’t pay any attention to those who want to see Trump fail.Hopefully reputable doctors and scientists will weigh in on this.Bloomburg not at all reliable.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 10:41 AM
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Doctors all over the country are prescribing this treatment and seeing positive results. It’s what I would want if I contracted the virus.
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ad hoc ergo propter hoc***
Mar 25, 2020, 3:09 PM
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 PM
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Where does this come from ? Why does someone talking about research they've read or information they're seeing and putting out there get turned into somebody wanting to see the president fail ? Getting kind of old seeing this constant political nonsense inserted where it simply wasn't being discussed or alluded to . It's silly , just stop . Not everything need be political in nature. Take a deep breath and exhale .
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 26, 2020, 2:27 AM
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People grasping at straws, wanting to be right, without concern for being correct: can’t even call it politics anymore ... political discourse is dead ... replaced with shouting “You’re wrong! I’m right! “ back and forth ...
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I would trust Bloomberg News and farther than I could
Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 PM
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throw Jerry Nadler.....
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 26, 2020, 1:41 AM
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Why do you think so many want Trump to fail? He's handled this whole Pandemic terribly and I despise him as a human being ....but I'm pulling for him to make good choices and succeed.
I can't imagine anyone actually hoping for people to die to see #45 fail.
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Re: lol,yet everyone that's been prescribed it has RECOVERED
Mar 25, 2020, 10:43 AM
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Amazing to see the number of people who have only one agenda and we all know what that is.
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They can't let this end early. Their agenda calls for it
Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 AM
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to last longer. Found an article last night where the Left's favorite Dr(Fauci) predicted this 9 days before DJT was sworn in. How'd he know ?
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Re: They can't let this end early. Their agenda calls for it
Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM
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Right on queue a Gub'nor with a D really wants this to keep going.....
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The joke was, if Trump cured cancer Dims would be against it
Mar 25, 2020, 3:05 PM
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Crazy times.
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Re: The joke was, if Trump cured cancer Dims would be against it
Mar 25, 2020, 6:51 PM
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Yep. The Dems would take a crashed economy and a million dead if that's what it took for Trump to not be re-elected. They live their lives based on politics. Sickening really.
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ANd that sorry ####### will flee to Arizona to get treatment
Mar 25, 2020, 11:03 PM
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when he comes down with it.....
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Re: They can't let this end early. Their agenda calls for it
Mar 25, 2020, 12:11 PM
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World Bank starts selling pandemic bonds in 2018. Bill Gates and George Soros have a Convention on World Pandemics in Oct 2019. First case of Wuhan Nov 17 2019. Bill Gates quits all boards in Feb of 2020 goes quiet. Ten minutes after DJT says he is shooting for Easter Bill Gates starts tweeting that he can not do it. Conspiracy theories.
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oh just shut up. does it occur to you we all have
Mar 26, 2020, 6:46 PM
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family, friends, ourselves, who will be impacted by this? You think Democrats are sitting around thinking, "Oh good. I have a chance to die now by keeping this going"? Get ahold of yourself and stop being an embarrassment.
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Re: lol,yet everyone that's been prescribed it has RECOVERED
Mar 25, 2020, 11:27 AM
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EVERYONE HAS RECOVERED! WOW. Hope it can help but w/o knowing details of "everyone" in data, age underlying conditions, severity, stage of infection etc. etc. that's a bit of a stretch. Lot of accepting based on politics and lot of rejection based on same. I will wait for clear scientific data based on trial with strict protocols.
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The key seems to be including azithromycin along with chloroquine.
Mar 25, 2020, 10:40 AM
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That’s what the patients in France received who had great results, and also what the NY doctor used.
Hydroxychloroquine alone probably helps, but adding azithromycin makes it better based on what we’ve seen thus far.
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Re: The key seems to be including azithromycin along with chloroquine.
Mar 25, 2020, 2:16 PM
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That’s what the patients in France received who had great results, and also what the NY doctor used.
Hydroxychloroquine alone probably helps, but adding azithromycin makes it better based on what we’ve seen thus far.
Of the patients in the French study, there was a 4% mortality rate. That's higher than the normal death rate for Covid-19.
Fox News is gonna get people killed. No, wait.
"March 24, 2020 -- An Arizona man has died and his wife is in critical condition after they took chloroquine phosphate to treat themselves for the novel coronavirus, the hospital system Banner Health says."
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200324/man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-for-coronavirus
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None of those in that study who died
Mar 25, 2020, 3:01 PM
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received hydroxychloroquine AND azithromycin. All of those patients lived.
Also, it isn’t FOX News’s fault that someone decided to take a prescription medicine on their own, that it wasn’t hydroxychloroquine but chloroquine (there is a difference), and that he also drank something intended for aquariums.
Leave it to the MSM to make that Trump’s fault somehow.
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It's toxic like many medicines
Mar 25, 2020, 3:56 PM
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That's why it kills parasites. So it is easy to overdose if you take too much. If you search for overdoses of it, there was a sailor in Guam who used his anti-malarial chloroquine to commit suicide.
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No one said it isn’t without risk.
Mar 25, 2020, 4:03 PM
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Anything can be dangerous if taken in unsafe amounts. Water, oxygen, etc. can be toxic if not taken properly.
I don’t understand your point though. No one in our government has advised people to obtain hydroxychloroquine or any other drug on their own or try to treat themselves.
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It can cause QT prolongation.
Mar 26, 2020, 4:25 PM
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But this is rare, and is easily captured on an EKG. It can also be addressed via reducing the dosage or frequency of the medication.
Generally speaking, medications like hydroxychloroquine are very safe. The great thing is that even though using it to fight COVID-19 is an "off-label" use, we have decades of experience using it for other things and know what we're dealing with.
That's why I'm shocked and disappointed that some people - medical and otherwise - seem so quick to dismiss this as an option. These same people seem content to watch COVID-19 kill people, all in the name of "hydroxychloroquine isn't proven." Many of these same people also seem to be excited about the possibility of a vaccine, which we know nothing about at this point. Guess what? When it's released we will have virtually no safety information on it. We definitely won't have any long-term data. That should scare people far more than hydroxychloroquine should.
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Have you never seen "I am Legend"
Mar 26, 2020, 7:16 PM
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it takes years of studies to make official treatment claims.
I understand why people are hesitant to make claims with such limited data.
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Two closely related drugs, both used for the same things
Mar 25, 2020, 4:09 PM
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Both developed as replacements for quinine. I'm surprised by the lack of chemistry knowledge on a Clemson board. I thought we all had to take chemistry. Here's a good explanation for how the two drugs are made.
https://www.beilstein-journals.org/bjoc/articles/14/45High-yielding continuous-flow synthesis of antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine
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Go ahead and take all the chloroquine phosphate you want.***
Mar 26, 2020, 1:30 AM
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Re: The key seems to be including azithromycin along with chloroquine.
Mar 26, 2020, 6:48 PM
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They've already run trials on cloroquine. No, it did not improve outcomes.
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Re: OK rcurton - we'll make sure you don't get any of this
Mar 25, 2020, 3:12 PM
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can you spell anecdotal
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Since you are obviously WAY smarter than all the scientists
Mar 25, 2020, 7:13 PM
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working on this, what is your cure? Surely you have one by now. Where is it? LINK IT. I mean, you are a grammar expert after all and a member of the spelling police force.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 AM
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A small study in China.Nothing more reputable than that.Lets quit trying it.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:15 AM
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u mean a study brought to you by those who started this whole thing?
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Lol. Small French study says it’s an effective treatment
Mar 25, 2020, 12:20 PM
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“We need more studies!”
Small Chinese study says it is not effective.
“Well! That settles that!”
Seriously...the French study incorporated an anti-biotic and the malaria drug. That’s the key...and by that I mean, that’s the combo we should be fast tracking studies on and getting out to people.
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So in the Chinese Study of 30 people
Mar 25, 2020, 2:28 PM
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15 people who took it recovered.
14 people who didn't take it also recovered.
I would assume one person that did not take it did not recover.
Statistically it is no better than normal treatment, but it certainly doesn't rule it out as a treatment in advanced cases.
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One guy in the Chinese study overdosed and died.
Mar 25, 2020, 4:22 PM
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. I think it was double the normal dose.
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Re: One guy in the Chinese study overdosed and died.
Mar 25, 2020, 5:32 PM
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You're really against this medicine for some reason. Must suck to have to hope people die to satisfy your hate for one man.
BTW, you're story about that guy "taking the same thing" is starting to fall apart. The fish tank cleaner had the same active ingredient. The Sacramento Paper had to run a correction to the effect:
Correction: A previous version of this article and its headline conflated the malaria drug chloroquine with the additive used in fish tank cleaners, which has the same active ingredient. The couple ingested the additive, not the malaria medication, which scientists in China have recommended using to treat COVID-19. The headline and story have been updated to accurately reflect that.
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Exactly. Preach***
Mar 25, 2020, 7:09 PM
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Re: One guy in the Chinese study overdosed and died.
Mar 25, 2020, 8:07 PM
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You still don't understand that it is exactly the same thing. Look up bottles of the fish medicine and bottles of the human medicine. It's teh same #### thing.
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You're a serious danger to society in this point and time!
Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 PM
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ArchieOCampbell How much longer are you going to be able to keep recirculating the same bs? Even when one of your posts says,"Two closely related drugs". Key words are "CLOSELY RELATED!" ie Not the SAME THING! That sir proves beyond any measure you don't have a clue what your spouting off about!
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Oh man.
Mar 25, 2020, 10:34 PM
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At least do a little bit of research. If you don't understand chemistry, just stop.
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Re: If you can't get past the headlines
Mar 25, 2020, 10:56 PM
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Just stop lying. The man took a spoonful of aquarium cleaner that contains hydroxychloroquine.
AQUARIUM CLEANER!!!
You really think taking aquarium cleaner that contains hydroxychloroquine is the same as taking prescribed medicine?
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I really don't want to insult you.
Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 PM
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I just don't have any more patience so I'll say goodbye and good luck. Don't eat any more Tide Pods.
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Re: Here, people are just stupid including the author of this
Mar 25, 2020, 8:27 PM
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I have not seen any reputable source saying they are the same.I assume you don’t think carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are the same thing?
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We are heading to Iodocracy just like the movie
Mar 25, 2020, 8:32 PM
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Re: We are heading to Iodocracy just like the movie
Mar 25, 2020, 8:36 PM
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Haven’t seen that one.You mean idiocracy?TIA.
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Sorry, I was just annoyed that people will spout off
Mar 25, 2020, 8:44 PM
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without doing the slightest bit of research.
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Re: By the way, there is a trial for COVID-19 using ######
Mar 25, 2020, 8:42 PM
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How about that, does it censor sildenafil citrate? That's the trial drug.
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testing thalidomide too
Mar 25, 2020, 8:48 PM
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women working in pharmacies are not allowed near that stuff.
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What a joke. A small study in China???
Mar 25, 2020, 11:56 PM
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At this point, you are going to trust the Chinese. The lengths the media will go to to try and make Trump look bad. What a joke. More trials say it works than doesn't work. Worth a try. And stay away from the aquarium cleaner.
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Why are all of these morons rooting for the virus?
Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM
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If a drug/drugs show promise and the drug/drugs are on the market, use them. Between letting the patient suffer and die and using the drugs available, use the drugs. And get some treatment for your TDS. When it turns out he was correct about this drug and he pulls us out of the mess, liberals around the country will be driving their cars into trees. What a great day that will be.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 10:40 AM
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I'm sorry the aquarium cleaner guy died. But lets face it that was not a good move. I'm sure the clear had some do not ingest warnings.
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'Aquarium' would
Mar 25, 2020, 10:49 AM
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Have been clue enough for me.
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I would say that's natural selection at work but the guy
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was in his 60s and likely already produced offspring.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:21 AM
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Can't believe anyone wouldn't want to try this or wouldn't want it to work. I know 2 people that that take this daily for other reasons and one is a doctor.
If I'm sitting there dying, try anything.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:27 AM
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I actually really hope it works.
I'm no Trump fan, but I'd cheerfully trade another four years of Trump for not seeing, you know, as many as a million folks die.
My wife has severe asthma. It'd be really nice to know there's an effective treatment for this bug. I'm confident pretty much everybody, actually, has somebody in that severe-risk group.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:32 AM
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User Logo quozzel All-TigerNet [11329] TigerPulse: 100% Posts: 4334 Joined: 10/15/02 Re: Jewish Dr in NY results Posted: Mar 25, 2020 11:27 AM Reply
I actually really hope it works.
I'm no Trump fan, but I'd cheerfully trade another four years of Trump for not seeing, you know, as many as a million folks die.
My wife has severe asthma. It'd be really nice to know there's an effective treatment for this bug. I'm confident pretty much everybody, actually, has somebody in that severe-risk group.
QUOZZEL NOT A TRUMP FAN. I AM SHOCKED. SHOCKED I SAY.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:34 AM
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And Derp is a Trump fan. Call me equally shocked.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 12:12 PM
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So sorry to hear that about your wife. She has to be extremely careful in a lot of situations, and with meds that can trigger. If anyone has ever been around someone having a severe Asthmatic attack, it's one scary experience... And I pray she doesn't have many.
Be safe!!!! Can't wait until we start seeing your football posts again!!!!
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Asthma sucks...I don't miss it!
Mar 25, 2020, 1:37 PM
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To this day, I can't tolerate being hemmed in, enclosed or feel stifled in any way. Bad memories!
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:23 AM
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What does Jewish have to do with it?
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My G-d. We agree on something again. My thought was,
Mar 25, 2020, 11:35 AM
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is that like a Jewish Deli?
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Re: My G-d. We agree on something again. My thought was,
Mar 25, 2020, 2:43 PM
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That is nice.
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Well, kosher makes it both legitimate, & framed by law...
Mar 25, 2020, 11:38 AM
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that's the good stuff.
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According to the protocols...***
Mar 26, 2020, 7:09 PM
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 11:46 AM
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because the title of the click bait that he never provided a link for said "Jewish Doctor in NY" in the title.
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Promising
Mar 25, 2020, 11:49 AM
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Praying that it's the answer
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News stories call it an aquarium cleaner. That's not right.
Mar 25, 2020, 2:00 PM
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People don't use chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to clean aquariums. They use those drugs to kill parasites aquariums. The same way they are used to kill malaria parasites in people.
Some fools want to think that when the same drug is used for people and animals, it has to be different somehow.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 2:22 PM
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THEM GUYS NEED TO TRIM THEM DREADLOCKS
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 4:42 PM
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He says that only 350 of them are from Kiryas Joel and the other 150 are from Monsey. He is in quarantine himself, so his staff is treating them without him seeing any of them. Maybe he staff counted wrong?
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Or it could be his chicken soup recipe?***
Mar 25, 2020, 2:23 PM
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I'm just amazed at the people who want the treatments to
Mar 25, 2020, 7:00 PM
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fail.....or not even be tried right here on Tnet. Wow. All because Trump is the president, some of you are rooting for the virus. Don't argue....it's in some of your posts. Plain as day. Shameful.
Politicians need to let docs do doc stuff....Politicians need to stick what they do best, giving to the lazy and worthless while robbing us people with jobs.
That Nevada governor though.....wow. lol. There's you liberals in Nevada a little taste of socialized medicine. Yummy?
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Re: I'm just amazed at the people who want the treatments to
Mar 25, 2020, 7:42 PM
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I don’t have an opinion on the drug treatment at all, because I’m not a doctor. However, why does everything have to be political? Is it not even remotely possible to you that someone could have concerns or doubts over this drug treatment without it meaning that it’s because Trump thinks it might work? Or without it meaning that they want people to die?
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that people who vote democratic also get this virus and potentially die from it. I’m going to also assume that many of them are also worried over losing jobs.
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Re: I'm just amazed at the people who want the treatments to
Mar 25, 2020, 8:04 PM
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My point is, it should be left up to the doctors. Then if the doctors are acting unethically or a problem arises, then shut it down. Until then, politicians need to get out of the way. That's all. It's political because of politicians....in the way.
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Re: I'm just amazed at the people who want the treatments to
Mar 25, 2020, 10:07 PM
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It's politicized because there is a sizable portion of this country right now who have that idea just stuck in their heads and can't seem to separate it from non-political anything . Buy a gallon of whole milk ? That's what conservatives do . Drive a Volkswagen ? Libtard !
It's honestly very tired and played out but somehow there's this kernel of the hardest core that live for it , so they do this no-possible-association thing over and over and over . Beat a new drum .
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I agree... It's getting frickin' old.***
Mar 26, 2020, 7:12 PM
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 25, 2020, 8:44 PM
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Thank you for the update! I believe it.
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Re: Jewish Dr in NY results
Mar 26, 2020, 3:16 AM
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It would be great if it works but from what I read they are not sure all and it is now creating shortages for the people with conditions that really need it.
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"People who really need it."
Mar 26, 2020, 4:29 PM
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If it is truly effective against COVID-19, and saves someone's life, I would argue that those people need it more than anyone right now.
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What does the Islamic Dr in Boston say?***
Mar 26, 2020, 7:07 PM
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90 500mg tabs of Chloroquine ordered from India 10 days ago...
Mar 26, 2020, 7:16 PM
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I'll do what I feel is best should the occasion arise. I don't give a flying F what anybody else thinks or does. That's your business. Mine is mine.
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