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At some point, the GOP is going to remove Trump.
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:07 AM
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I don't know when, and I don't know how it is going to go down, but the war party will not let him win, period. They will use these kangaroo courts as an excuse, and they'll put forth another mouthpiece for the MIC so we can send more money and Americans off to die.
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Re: At some point, the GOP is going to remove Trump.
Nov 9, 2023, 8:10 AM
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The GOP isn't removing Trump and they can't. As far as all of the cases against him, most are deserved. He will be the candidate though unless he has a heart attack or something.
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Re: At some point, the GOP is going to remove Trump.
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Nov 9, 2023, 7:11 PM
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None of the cases are deserved.
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Trump is a very predictable symptom of a very predictable disease.
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:25 AM
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There are Trump's all over the place. RFKJR is another. Same mold.
This is what happens when democracies encounter bad leadership. When you no longer trust, or approve of who leads you, people get desperate, and when that happens the wolves come out.
This clip below is at a political rally for the President of the United States in 2023. The deal was sealed (for me) with Trump when I attended one of his rallies. The entire time I'm thinking "This guy is dangerous". Then I look around at the people eating it up. It was positively creepy watching the people. Under good leadership these people would otherwise be called republicans. Not anymore.
We are in a bad state.
https://x.com/Sassafrass_84/status/1722412982733357553?s=20
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That was pretty corny, but I don't see why you would be scared of
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:27 AM
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people who want to end government corruption. That seems kindof sus.
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Re: That was pretty corny, but I don't see why you would be scared of
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:32 AM
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Trump was corrupt and they aren't trying to end corruption. What a myth that is. I am surprised you believe that nonsense.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108654]
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Every revolution in world history has been done to rid governments of corruption
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:41 AM
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Every tyrant who has ever come to power, did so on promises to end corruption. Again, it's predictable. The good and decent politicians descend into corruption. The people get tired of the corruption and run to the nearest solution. Then then learn, every single time, that the answer they chose ends up being worse than the problem they had originally.
Part and parcel to this is a lack of reasonable things that CAN BE DONE to end the corruption, that are never mentioned, either by those legacy corrupt politicians, or those trying to seize power from them.
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I agree, Trump completely failed at it and won't be any more successful
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Nov 9, 2023, 9:00 AM
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if by some miracle he is allowed to win. But the idea is good, and if more and more voters would rally behind the idea then maybe we could get some good candidates who actually had good ways to end corruption.
Instead, the controlled opposition party runs corrupt scumbags and the only way an outsider can win is to be an independently wealthy celebrity. It is what it is.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108654]
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We should be blessed Trump failed at it.
Nov 9, 2023, 9:43 AM
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Personally, I would like to see the (legislative) problem addressed by the states, who have ultimate authority on par with Congress.
All any president can do is be a cheerleader for the states. The problem we have with states taking control and amending the Constitution to the detriment of Congress and the betterment of the nation, is the states are all bought and paid for by federal funding. Pick your state senator or Congressman or woman. We all have them, decades in office, serving the people of South Carolina, etc. THAT politician is not going to pass term limits for themselves. It won't happen. Furthermore, they use money sent to states as leverage to prevent their own states enacting an Article V convention to address their own longevity in Congress. And if that fails, and state legislatures meet to discuss amending the US Constitution, they then work diligently to introduce such a lengthy laundry list of grievances as to ensure it never passes the legislature.
Any President serious about fixing problems should mention Article V frequently, and often, and explain it to voters. Also explain to them how the system is not working, and the opposition to the issue. 99% of Americans are ignorant of the process, the reason for it in the Constitution, nor the reasons it has never been attempted. We've opted for Civil War before Article V in the past, simply because the people lacked the knowledge (or leadership) to implement Article V.
The trick to pulling it off, again takes quality leadership. Not on proposing the amendments, but on keeping the convention LIMITED to that one, or two amendments. This is where it always fails. In Lexington County they proposed a penny sales tax to be used to fix roads, because Lexington roads suck, even among a state with 45 other counties with sucky roads. The proposal started with broad support. Transparency was to be key. They proposed a long list of much-needed road projects, and people liked the idea. BUT, during the year leading up to the referendum on the ballot on voting day, things were added to the list of projects. Water lines, sewer projects, park improvements, green spaces, bicycle paths, library funding, firemen funding, and the proposal ultimately failed. And if you hit a pothole in Lexington County, (I hit at least 10 this morning alone) you can thank those people who just don't want new taxes, who undermined the bill to improve the roads. And even then, like was seen in neighboring Richland COunty, IF you pass it, then the funds are misused anyway. Again, poor leadership. NOW, if Lexington County had quality leadership, they'd repropose the original list of needed improvements. They would pass an ordinance FIXING that list. Nothing can be added or removed. THEN also pass an ordinance stating any funds collected MUST be used for projects on that fixed list. Do this, and it would pass. But this is why we can't have nice things.
Same applies at the federal level.
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Re: We should be blessed Trump failed at it.
Nov 9, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Tiggity, you're spot on about that Lexington County penny tax. A friend of my was on county council when they proposed it. Once they started added all the extra walkways and wading pools and crap, I told him it wouldn't pass.
Too bad they couldn't do it right, like York County did.
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Oh boy, an article V argument... that's a recipe for disaster.
Nov 9, 2023, 1:05 PM
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Last time the states called for a convention like that, the Hamiltonians pushed through the con job and moved away from the superior AOC.
Yes, let's go to a convention with a bunch of commies, that will work out well...
Sorry, there's no world in which we are blessed that Trump (or anyone) fails to remove federal corruption.
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Re: Every revolution in world history has been done to rid governments of corruption
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Nov 9, 2023, 9:09 AM
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Our federal bureaucracy is what actually runs our country.
You think that the Democrat party has this power? Or the RINO party, either?
Watch for the non-obedience of the Biden family to the House committee’s subpoenas. The House can’t force them to appear. Instead, the federal law enforcement is the muscle through this takes place. Initially, the Biden family members will simply state that the subpoena dates don’t work for them, and that it will be sometime in late January or February before they are available. Come February, there will be another excuse and request for delay.
Law enforcement will not go get them.
The Biden family will then file some motion or Joe Biden will declare presidential immunity as the reason why the family members won’t appear. Federal law enforcement will side with Joe Biden’s wishes, instead of forcing the family members to comply with the House subpoena.
Remember that federal law enforcement engaged is seditious activities when Trump was president. Russia hoax and the prearranged false testimony in the Ukraine / Trump ‘illegal use of the federal bureaucracy’ sham investigations?
(*). The common thread is not that the bureaucracy is trying to save America from a despot and to protect a perfectly innocent Joe Biden. Rather, Joe Biden represents further overt empowerment of a corrupt bureaucracy, whereas Trump represents a threat to the power of the bureaucracy.
Stalin came to power not because of his popular magnetism. Trotsky was the populist. Stalin came to power because he worked within the Soviet bureaucracy on his ascent. Once he was able to take control of the NKVD (precursor to the KGB), Stalin then deployed the NKVD to turn on the leaders of the other bureaucracies. The final act was to eliminate the threat that a somewhat independent Soviet military posed before they took action to depose Stalin. Enter The Great Purge.
Keep in mind that leftism has roots in the ‘successes’ of how the Soviet Union evolved into its Stalinist final form. Unlike the impetuous populist politicians, the Stalinist model for ascending to power takes place slowly, and then suddenly. We have entered the ‘suddenly’ phase.
It’s time for Americans to open their eyes, see the bureaucracy for its power (increasingly independent of the wishes of politicians), and take stock of the lessons of history.
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POTD***
Nov 9, 2023, 9:27 AM
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Re: Every revolution in world history has been done to rid governments of corruption
Nov 9, 2023, 7:15 PM
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Why don't you make a list of about 50 things that can be done to end the corruption in the swamp, including politicians, federal agencies, deep state bureaucrats, universities, think tanks, MSM figures, etc.
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TIL Tiggity is a Dem and loves Brandon. Who knew?***
Nov 9, 2023, 8:39 AM
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Uniparty media: Making use of useful idiot RFK Jr.
Nov 9, 2023, 6:05 PM
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RFK Jr has taken controversial positions that appeal to radical leftists. It appears that changes in some of his ‘personal convictions’ is coincidentally taking place to fit within popular opinion. Might this mean that RFK Jr is not a principled and bravely outspoken warrior against the corrupt powers? Might it mean that he is simply just another FOS politician?
His ‘arrest the climate change deniers’ position had (still has) appeal to America’s ignoramus constituency. However, in recent times, RFK Jr has disavowed this previous position of his. The ‘deniers’ will not be targeted for imprisonment simply because they utter heretical thoughts. However, RFK Jr remains as an Al Gore esque global warming nut.
RFK Jr had also, until very recently, been an open borders guy. This policy preference still has appeal among the Democrat party’s minions, but has become a divide factor for Democrats. Open borders / closed borders talk is being de emphasized by the Uniparty media. RFK Jr’s ‘changing of his mind’ to become a closed borders guy indicates a switch based on political expedience as opposed to a personal ‘awakening.’
In even more recent times, RFK Jr has expressed his preference for reparations. To my understanding, RFK Jr has not yet backed away from this one.
Yet, we hear very little about this from the Uniparty media. Any guess as to why the media remains quiet about this?
Nearly all that gets widely reported about RFK Jr is with regard to his ongoing anti-vax position; this facet of RFK.Jr’s policy preferences appeals more to Republicans than to Democrats.
On the other hand, those RFK Jr policies which would siphon away support from Democrat voters (I.e. reparations, global warming) get little emphasis by the Uniparty media.
By methodically emphasizing those RFK Jr policies which will siphon off voters from the Republican Party and not reporting on the RFK Jr policies which would simultaneously appeal to Democrats and turn off Republicans, the Uniparty media has turned RFK Jr into their latest useful idiot to manipulate the electorate into electing whatever ‘generic’ Democrat that the bureaucracy trots out there.
(*). Notice how, now that RFK Jr has entered the presidential race as an Independent, those policy positions of RFK Jr which tend to siphon off support from the traditional Democrat constituencies (
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Re: Trump is a very predictable symptom of a very predictable disease.
Nov 9, 2023, 9:34 AM
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The worst part is, they feed on the chaos they themselves create. Basically, they set fire to the house and then start screaming the house is on fire and (pointing fingers) it's their fault. (Fill in the group you don't like here.)
Perfect example: this psychotic bill that just came out of the House, tying aid for Israel to wiping out billions intended to fund the IRS...in the name of "cutting spending." Just an unbelievably brilliant concept, there, using America's alliance with Israel as one hostage and the ability to enforce the tax code as another....and then trying to force the Dems to choose which hostage gets it between the eyes.
Either way, the MAGA's get what they want. They either destroy our alliance with Israel or they hamstring America's future tax revenue, obviously neither of which serve America's actual interests. But populists don't serve anyone's interests (except their own), they just break things. It took me a minute to figure out, but breaking things is the whole point.
We just have to hope there's five (or probably more like 10, since the Squad is on the side of the "noble" Hamas freedom fighters) House GOP reps who are willing to be sane...or in a couple weeks, the government shuts down, and Israel and Ukraine twist in the wind, and the world catches fire even more.
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Re: Trump is a very predictable symptom of a very predictable disease.
Nov 9, 2023, 8:17 PM
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That has to be the biggest bucket of shatt ever dumped on Tigernet. I'd been berating myself for not complementing you for your post on Netanyahu the day of or after the first Hamas attacks and then you go and spew this insanity.
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Good. Hopefully he goes to prison and dies there
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He's a horrible person who damaged our nation for his own personal gain, and his mindless loyalists need it rubbed in their faces good and hard.
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Sadly, he won't.***
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Nov 9, 2023, 8:44 AM
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Re: Good. Hopefully he goes to prison and dies there
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Trump is fighting corruption. That's why he wants to win supposedly. Also, he was sent by God to save the country. Hand picked by God. That's what NJDEV somrwhat believes.
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Re: LOL.***
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America’s special interests voter blocks (public school employees, federal bureaucrats, [most] state bureaucrats, university employees, and vendors / service providers whose living is tightly linked to the business that they do for these groups) are bought and paid for.
They will always vote according to who the establishment Democrat party tells them to vote for. These supposed ‘thinkers’ are self-blinded by the promise of continued financial and job stability comfort. These self-professed ‘thinkers’ simply refuse to recognize how, when laws deteriorate into the arbitrary whims of federal law enforcement, their easy lives will devolve into instability.
These sheep don’t recognize that they are whistling past the slaughterhouse. Useful idiots, all of them.
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You're a man who thinks Trump isn't a phony
Nov 9, 2023, 11:38 AM
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You're the wooliest sheep of them all.
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Re: You're a man who thinks Trump isn't a phony
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Re: You're a man who thinks Trump isn't a phony
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In the scorecard of phonies, Trump is the least phony among the bunch.
Democrat party + RINO party + bureaucracy: Act 1 and Act 2.
Act 1: Seditiously attempted to bring down the presidency of the duly elected DJT via the Russia hoax. The seditionists developed their own false evidence in order to ‘prove’ that Trump clouded with Russia to corrupt the 2016 election.
Act 2: Seditiously attempted to bring down DJT when he asked the DoJ to investigate Joe Biden for corrupt activities regarding Burisma. The seditionists suborned perjury from key ‘witness’ Col. Alexander Vindman, who, much to the angst of Dems & RINOs & Fed bureaucracy, was caught as having provided false testimony.
J6 FedSurrection: The Democrat party + RINOs + bureaucracy built, installed, and set the metaphorical ‘fuse’ which detonated (to them) a disappointingly small metaphorical low power bomb on J6. That the FBI, much of the House of Representatives, and much of the Senate was so eager to release Capitol Building security footage that showed clips of destructive behavior from the J6 protesters … yet remain so adamantly opposed to releasing the entirety of the security footage … speaks volumes by the actions. The prosecution, if honest, has nothing to fear by releasing the entirety of the security footage, Even if the footage ends up exonerating most of the incarcerated J6 protesters, the prosecution … if they are honest prosecutors who are following the law … will not be personally punished if the defendants are set free when the exculpatory evidence comes to light. From another perspective, if the as-yet unreleased footage has no exculpatory evidence, then there is no reason to not release it. (?). Why keep hiding the entirety of ypthrpe J6;security footage if the prosecution and their political masters have nothing to hide?
Joe Biden, the nationally elected Democrats (every single one of them), the DoJ, FBI, and to a lesser degree, IRS with coverup of Joe Biden’s family government corruption crime enterprise.
Does this need any elaboration or explanation? I didn’t think so.
(***). Regardless of what you can conjure up about DJT, none of his stuff comes close to the phoniness of the Democrats, RINOs, and federal bureaucracy in their ‘pious pursuit of justice, law & order’ crimes against America via their seditious endeavors to depose and punish a sitting president (and now a former president).
The lefties know that I am right, but their commitment to propaganda and predilection to dishonesty will never allow them to admit it.
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Re: You're a man who thinks Trump isn't a phony
Nov 9, 2023, 8:22 PM
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+1,000.
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I can't help it, I gotta +1 that nickname***
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Ditto***
Nov 9, 2023, 11:38 AM
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This isn't about Trump.
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Nov 9, 2023, 9:20 AM
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For his supporters, he's not a solution. For his opponents, he's not the problem. He's just an opportunist. Our problems lie squarely in our bicameral federal legislature. As such, no President alone can be a solution to that problem, any more than he can be the cause of it.
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Pres has a lot of power to foment change.
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He could veto any unconstitutional bills and gut the bureaucracy.
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Lol. Sure, he can veto the Feed the Starving Children Bill
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That includes the purchasing of 25 stealth aircraft, a new aircraft carrier, and expansion of Medicaid, and food stamps, and funding for sloth research. Sure, he could do that. And then thousands of starving children won't get their $30 million in funding, while the military and social safety nets, and pet projects of all kinds will also not get their $20 billion.
Again I will state, once again the ONLY time in my entire lifetime when the federal government has managed to balance a budget, JUST SO HAPPENS to be the couple of years Bill Clinton (the luckiest President) happened to enjoy the line item veto. Yep. Look at the years, they align almost perfectly. The threat of it alone caused bills like the hypothetical one above from even being proposed.
And yet, all this time, the President has had free reign to ignore enforcing immigration laws, as passed by Congress.
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Re: Lol. Sure, he can veto the Feed the Starving Children Bill
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I’m not aware of Clinton, nor any president in history, having a line item veto.
The change that is needed in the bill writing process is for the House to write each bill as a stand alone piece of legislation that has a ‘title’ which reflects the contents of the bill.
That bill then goes to the Senate, which approves or disapproves or requests modified language & then gets sent back to the House.
Doing it the way that our founders had intended would interfere with the single most important job requirement that Congess has imposed upon itself:
Fundraising.
Doing bills the correct way would take far too much time away from the fundraising ‘requirement.’ Regardless, I applaud Tim Johnson for asserting the House’s constitutional prerogative to ‘author’ the bills (in this case, strip away the extraneous aspects … with those ‘extraneous’ aspects to be subitted in a separate bill).
The WH and Senate will lie and lie that the House is shutting down the govt, etc by not passing the Senate’s bill. The Uniparty media does their usual job in bleating the Senate & WH message out to the sheep.
At the end of the day, however, the House has the authority to compose bills and to tell the Senate that negotiations about details THAT PERTAIN TO THE BILL AT HAND will be worked out … but that ‘riders’ and/or unrelated topics / spending targets are off limits.
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Re: At some point, the GOP is going to remove Trump.
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Nov 9, 2023, 6:07 PM
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How much money would you wager on that?
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Re: At some point, the GOP is going to remove Trump.
Nov 9, 2023, 7:10 PM
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Where did you get the idea that the GOP is the War Party?
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