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Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 8:15 AM
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Help me understand it.
I have seen the accounts of anti-Asian violence around the country. Haven't paid much attention because frankly I haven't seen it.
But a friend of mine's adopted son works at Chick-fil-A and he has had a drink thrown at him and in the drive through a man asked if he could be served by someone else because he didn't want to be served by "a yellow".
What in the actual phuque?
I don't get it. Is this a redneck thing because they think the Chinese started the COVID?
Where did this start? Was it Trump talking about Chi-NAH? Or some other source?
Seriously just trying to learn more about it.
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And ironically, it was reported that the victims in ATL were
Mar 19, 2021, 8:24 AM
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Korean.
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thats because he was not targeting Asians
Mar 19, 2021, 8:41 AM
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I want to scream this from the mountain tops. People, can you not read?
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Speaking of shouting into the void...
Mar 19, 2021, 9:31 AM
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How do you know this? Are you just taking the murderer for his word? Seems unlikely that he would cop to a racially motivated hate crime, what with the harsher penalties in our justice system.
I don’t think anyone can say for sure what this guy had going on his head when he murdered 8 women, but to completely dismiss the idea of a racial motive is equally as counterproductive as definitively claiming that it was racially motivated.
Maybe just cool your jets, wait for some more information, and then make a determination.
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Re: Speaking of shouting into the void...
Mar 19, 2021, 9:39 AM
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The information is already out. He targeted sex workers. The fact that they were Asian wasn't the reason according to the cops.
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Re: Speaking of shouting into the void...
Mar 19, 2021, 9:42 AM
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The Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office has stated investigators are “not ruling out” race yet.
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Re: Speaking of shouting into the void...
Mar 19, 2021, 9:43 AM
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Interesting. I stand corrected.
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alright Chief, listen up
Mar 19, 2021, 9:45 AM
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if you read any news at all you will find out that he was a sex addict. He saw these massage parlors as his ultimate sin and his ultimate temptation. Who happens to work at these massage parlors? Care to guess, yes, people from Asian decent, these happened to be Korean. He did this cause he thought in his looney mind that he was saving us all from this addiction.
Its all over the place, its recorded, but its not the narrative everyone wants, so they close their ears.
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Re: alright Chief, listen up
Mar 19, 2021, 9:47 AM
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I think I’ll wait for the investigators to make a determination, but thanks for the speculation!
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Re: alright Chief, listen up
Mar 19, 2021, 11:38 AM
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Similarly, I am sure you are waiting on the jury to decide if Minneapolis cop was guilty of anything in G Floyd case.
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Re: alright Chief, listen up
Mar 19, 2021, 11:58 AM
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Sure, I’m interested to see what the arguments are on both sides of the case. I don’t claim to know which charges against chauvin are the most accurate.
But considering that both the county medical examiner and independent autopsy reports ruled that George Floyd’s death was a homicide, I can come to a conclusion that Chauvin was at least somewhat complicit in his death.
Any other cases you want to go over?
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This is fun
Mar 19, 2021, 12:22 PM
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Do Nicole Brown Simpson next!
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Is it not possible that someone
Mar 19, 2021, 11:15 AM
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who thinks murder is the cure to being addicted to Asian massage sex maybe has deeply unhealthy views about women, Asians, and sex? Then again, if you can't trust a mass murderer, who can you trust?
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Re: thats because he was not targeting Asians
Mar 19, 2021, 9:50 AM
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Do you guys really think that anyone ignorant enough to strike out at Asians because the Covid virus originated there cares to discern between Koreans and Asians ?
I am not saying that the Atlanta murders were racially motivated (not enough info yet). But I AM saying that anyone stupid enough to hate Asians is too stupid to make any delineations.
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Re: thats because he was not targeting Asians
Mar 19, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Koreans are by far the better looking "Asians" when comparing Japanese, Chinese, etc. Of course that is just MHO and not particularly relevant to the issue.
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Any minority gets shot: "Racism!". The shooter says "I did
Mar 19, 2021, 10:04 AM
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it, but it wasn't about race": "Well, lets wait for the investigation."
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Re: Any minority gets shot: "Racism!". The shooter says "I did
Mar 20, 2021, 12:12 AM
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Yeah Tulsa, because I don't trust murderers to tell the truth.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 8:25 AM
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It's the same type of people that attacked people because they wore Trump hats. A holes that want to pick on people for something
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Anecdotally - most of the anti-Asian attacks I've seen on
Mar 19, 2021, 8:48 AM
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the news were done by black people.
CNNs headline yesterday blamed it on white supremacy and Trump.
Most news report a spike in anti-Asian attacks, but then don't report before/after numbers.
A headline on ABC talked about an old Asian man attacked in a laundry. But - to me it looked like a straight up robbery.
And - yeah - there are jerks out there that will do that to a kid at a Chick-Fil-A.
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If you look at the FBI crime statistics....
Mar 19, 2021, 9:42 AM
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most attacks on any particular group are done by the same one particular group.
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Interesting.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:09 PM
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You shout from the rooftops that CDC data is a hoax, but readily swallow whatever the FBI gives you?
I see your principles are STRONG when it's convenient.
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Re: Anecdotally - most of the anti-Asian attacks I've seen on
Mar 19, 2021, 9:46 AM
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Yeah. Those dudes were committing robberies all over the place. I would lean towards just a robbery in that case. The cases where Asian people are getting sucker punched or verbally attacked by strangers are the ones that are guaranteed. They are happening daily,
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Re: Anecdotally - most of the anti-Asian attacks I've seen on
Mar 19, 2021, 10:01 AM
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I don't disagree - I think there are probably some non-racial incidents that are getting lumped into the other.
OTOH, How many of the types of racial bullyshitt that the OP is talking about go unreported - I would think more than the number of mislabeled incidents.
I really do not understand how anyone can be so cretinous and despicable as to attack Americans because of some perceived ethnic connection to a virus (that knows no national allegiance).
Have we learned NO lessons from our history ??
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You seem a little quick...
Mar 19, 2021, 10:09 AM
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On here to point your fingers at black people. Like with that murder stat.
Do you have some data that shows its mainly being committed by African Americans (the anti-Asian stuff).
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No. I told you exactly where I got that piece of info.
Mar 19, 2021, 10:17 AM
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I've just noticed that when you see these videos of Asians getting pushed down - it's usually done by a black person. That's why I said it was an anecdotal observation.
You saw that my stat about murders in the US by blacks was a fact. How is stating facts pointing fingers? I was merely pointing out they had some introspection that needs to be done in their community and everything that happens to them is not due to racism.
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Re: No. I told you exactly where I got that piece of info.
Mar 19, 2021, 2:44 PM
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But that's purely anecdotal and not real evidence.
I know where you get the stat from. I'm not disputing the stat that more are arrested and convicted of murder.
My question is why you harp on it so much. And this question: Why do you personally think more black people are convicted of murder or why more black people commit murder?
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I literally said - Anecdotally - which means "This is
Mar 19, 2021, 4:53 PM
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anecdotal" - I wasn't offering it as evidence.
I harp on it so much - I think - because I'm weary of the media telling me that blacks are being hunted down in the streets. I'm naive; I've never seen this; I want to be shown some examples. Well, the examples are criminals that are resisting arrest and getting shot because of it. It bothers me that they don't take a tad of responsibility for what happened.
More black males are convicted of murder because they commit more murder.
Why more commit murder? I think many black males are never taught to embrace the opportunity that an education offers. That dooms them to lower-tier jobs, frustration grows (especially with people telling them it's not their fault, but that they are victims), and some turn to violence. Rinse and repeat.
I wish programs like Clemson's "Call me Mister" existed in middle school...
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Re: You seem a little quick...
Mar 19, 2021, 10:22 AM
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They are generally black people in all of the videos and the people being arrested are usually black who are attacking the Asians with physical violence. It's not all black people, but the vast majority are. That's with anecdotal evidence though.
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That's my point.***
Mar 19, 2021, 2:43 PM
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well, it is.....so I am not sure of your point
Mar 19, 2021, 9:31 AM
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we all know it came from Wuhan. So I am not sure what your point is besides Trump bashing.
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Re: well, it is.....so I am not sure of your point
Mar 19, 2021, 9:35 AM
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Of course you don't get what is wrong calling King Flu. Asian Americans didn't like it by the way.
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Re: well, it is.....so I am not sure of your point
Mar 19, 2021, 10:01 AM
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The point is that rhetoric has consequences.
Yeah, at the very least, the ineptitude and lack of transparency of the Chinese government helped loose the worst pandemic of the last 100 years on the world and killed more than half a million Americans, and completely wrecked our economy. And we're definitely escalating towards a new Cold War with them in the Pacific Rim, and their trade practices more closely resemble actual piracy. Not going to argue with any of that.
But there's a way to stand up to the Chinese without putting a bulls-eye on every Asian-American, too, because we didn't watch the words we used.
Trump didn't. We're starting to see the cost of that already.
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Re: well, it is.....so I am not sure of your point
Mar 19, 2021, 10:02 AM
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What was Trump's point by calling it that ? Will you really claim there was NO racial undertones to that ??
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Re: well, it is.....so I am not sure of your point
Mar 19, 2021, 10:37 AM
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Trump was calling it the Chinese virus when everyone was calling it that including the liberal media.
He continued because it’s not racist. Also China was trying to deflect blame and say it came from other places around the world. They even said it came from American soldiers.
https://youtu.be/kVS8aTQ46Rw
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 10:27 AM
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I see you are leaving out all the times your liberal buddies in the media called it the chinese/wuhan virus. Why is that? Oh it's only bad when Trump does it huh?
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 10:32 AM
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Did they call it Kung Flu? I think that's what he was talking about.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 10:59 AM
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Who called it the Kung flu?
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 11:52 AM
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Hadn’t seen that and appreciate the clip. Stupid of him to say like normal but I don’t think that pushes the needle in racial Asian attacks.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 9:31 AM
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There was an article earlier that I read about some Asian lady in her 70's who got attacked in San Francisco by some stranger. She grabbed a stick of some sort and put the attacker in the hospital. It was great. She was still trying to get at him while he was on the stretcher with EMS. She had a messed up eye and was bleeding, but still going after the dude. The cops had to hold her back and she still had her stick.
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I'll take "things that never happened" for 1000, Alex***
Mar 19, 2021, 9:41 AM
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Re: I'll take "things that never happened" for 1000, Alex***
Mar 19, 2021, 10:27 AM
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You know, the internet first started with funding from the US government. Maybe you should stop using it.
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Wow that's a great argument. If you disagree with something
Mar 19, 2021, 11:37 AM
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then you should just die. I mean the government controls, funds, subsidizes basically everything in life. I don't think it should, so I guess I should just die. Man that's amazing logic, and perfectly in line with communism!
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Re: Wow that's a great argument. If you disagree with something
Mar 19, 2021, 12:02 PM
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Oh sorry, I wasn’t aware that if you stopped posting your sh*tty takes on here that you would die, my apologies.
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google "argument ad absurdum"***
Mar 19, 2021, 1:45 PM
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Don't need to, I know what it means...
Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 PM
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and I know it didn't happen here.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 9:54 AM
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One thing that is not been mentioned in the media, and from a former Coworker that moved from Portland, is that there is a lot of resentment towards Asian Business Owners in Portland and Seattle. The Koreans and Chinese are buying up everything for Air BnB and creating a housing shortage. If you already own, you are dong great, if you are a young couple looking to buy a starter home with a reasonable commute, good luck.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 6:45 PM
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Starting last year, particularly around the time of the election, you started to see even on places like this forum more China this, China that, CCP this, Xiden, blah blah etc etc. It starts, gets ramped up on right wing media, then revolves around and around in the bubble.
Think back to before 2020. There was some trade-war type stuff, a WSJ article here and there, but not the daily "Democrats turning us into Chi-com" stuff you see these days.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 10:06 AM
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No kid deserves that kind of racial bullyshitt. Sometimes I can't believe how much working-class people ##### on each other.
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I was shocked. The kid is adopted from China.
Mar 19, 2021, 10:38 AM
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But no one would know if he was Chinese, Korean, Japanese, whatever. Very quiet and respectful. Been here his whole life. A sweet young man and his parents are among the most godly people I know. Dad is a nurse, Mom basically works from home. They also adopted his sister and have two adult bio sons.
And of course Chick-fil-A is supposed to be a Christian values kind of place. They hire adopted kids and immigrants. The clientele, from the few times I visit, tend to be the respectful crowd. So when I heard this I was genuinely shocked and upset.
I mean, even if it is because people think the Chinese caused the virus, if (big IF) the Chinese government did it, it wasn't your average person who is responsible.
But I am curious if there are other reasons I am not aware of. I get the West Coast property values thing.
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Re: I was shocked. The kid is adopted from China.
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I don't know. But I've just seen some people lately who just have their hate on for all things Asian and Chinese. It's really kind of crazy and more than a little distressing...like, where is this coming from? Because it's like, boiling in some people right now.
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Obvi. And that's exactly why I'm trying to learn more.***
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The media says it's white supremacy folks stirred up by
Mar 19, 2021, 11:50 AM
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Trump - who then, using systemic racism, force black people to bully Asian folks. It's diabolical really.
(I apologize - I know you're looking for serious answers - but I don't have any. I don't understand it either.)
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Some on-brand responses here.***
Mar 19, 2021, 10:10 AM
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Here's some cliff's notes
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Also, I just got caught up on season 2 of Warrior (####ing amazing show) and it blows my mind how we're still saying the same dumb things about immigrants now as we were then.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1372386251723051008.htmlThread by @mot427 on Thread Reader App Thread by @mot427: So i've been reading up on Asian American history. Not the fantastic stuff we know about inventions, medicine, philosophy and more. But some of the darker stuff not a lot of us know about...…
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
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ATL PAW MAN®
1. Are you sure the story is true? There is always another side to the story. Did the worker say something smart to the other person? Who knows, there are a million scenarios. 2. Was the drink thrower black?
Rumor has it blacks don't like hispanics. Maybe now they don't like Asians.
I know no one who gives a lick about anyone being Asian and connecting it to COVID. This is probably all another made up hoax by the left to prove everyone in the USA is racist.
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1) Yes, if you saw my post above, the Mom would not lie.
Mar 19, 2021, 11:49 AM
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But I have contacted her and the Dad to learn more, just b/c they are friends and it is so shocking.
2) WHO GAF IF THE PERP WAS BLACK OR NOT!?!?!
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Re: 1) Yes, if you saw my post above, the Mom would not lie.
Mar 19, 2021, 11:54 AM
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Because if you weren't a wussie progressive you would have balls enough to know and be able to talk about the fact that all of the incidents I saw (probably you too) on video had blacks attacking Asians.
Lots of them...
So, apparently blacks have an issue with Asians. Why I don't know, but it is a legitimate question based on real incidents that have happened. I have yet to hear about a white person randomly attacking an Asian person because they are Asian. The dude in ATL obviously has other issues besides just thinking about attacking Asians...
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Re: 1) Yes, if you saw my post above, the Mom would not lie.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:00 PM
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APM isn't a progressive. He is a Repub.
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Pretty sure he meant to reply to me.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:19 PM
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Also, maybe ATL is progressive now? He is trying to understand hatred towards minorities, slippery slope.
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Re: Pretty sure he meant to reply to me.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:23 PM
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That makes more sense. Oops
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This is too good.
Mar 19, 2021, 11:53 AM
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I love how there's a clear implication that there are scenarios where it's acceptable to throw a drink at an Asian kid and call him "a yellow." Then when all else fails, we can't rule out that it's a black guy's fault.
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Re: This is too good.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:04 PM
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There are scenarios where the Chick-fil-A worker is lying his a$$ off to save his job. God almighty you people are stupid and cannot think more than 1mm deep.
For example, maybe CFA Asian dude says to the black dude "hey niggah, throw me some cash" and black dude customer did not take it too well.
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Re: This is too good.
Mar 19, 2021, 1:16 PM
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You're being absolutely ridiculous. What is the likelihood that something like this happened at Chick-fil-A of all places.
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Re: This is too good.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:05 PM
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The kind of person that would call someone “yellow”, isn’t at chick fil a. It’s a lie. Unfortunately, playing a victim is really popular these days.
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Re: This is too good.
Mar 19, 2021, 12:12 PM
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Why wouldn't they be at a Chik fil a? It's fast food. What am I missng?
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You three get together to and come up with this?
Mar 19, 2021, 12:20 PM
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"I would rather believe that this child who I've never met before is a liar, than believe Asian-Americans are discriminated against."
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Re: You three get together to and come up with this?
Mar 19, 2021, 1:37 PM
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Every drive through has a camera. Show me.
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Re: Friend of mine's son is a victim of anti-Asian hate. Help?
Mar 19, 2021, 11:56 AM
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Don’t believe it. Sorry.
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Cool, just know that makes you an #######***
Mar 19, 2021, 12:26 PM
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My niece was adopted from China
Mar 19, 2021, 1:27 PM
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the only "discrimination" she's ever faced is being "picked on" because she blows the curves in all of her classes.
She gets told she's only smart because she's Asian, which may or may not be true. My sister thinks it's because she's a great mom, which she is.. but my sister was definitely not the smartest kid in the family and my bro in law wasn't exactly known for his academic performance so...
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Re: My niece was adopted from China
Mar 19, 2021, 1:47 PM
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You don't know what discrimination or racist comments she has heard. I am sure there are tons. My brother is half Japanese and my stepdad(RIP) was Japanese. I heard shyatt all the time that was unacceptable. Even telling a kid they are smart just because they are Asian is unacceptable.
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Kids are freaking brutal, what else is new?
Mar 19, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Everyone is a such a freaking pansy these days.
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Re: Kids are freaking brutal, what else is new?
Mar 19, 2021, 5:05 PM
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Adults are brutal towards Asians too. I agree there are a lot of pansies these days, but Asians take a bunch of abuse.
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Believe it started with Harvard/Yale
Mar 20, 2021, 12:27 AM
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Anti-Asian discrimination policies that the Trump justice dept really tried to attack.
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Re: Believe it started with Harvard/Yale
Mar 20, 2021, 1:37 AM
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Sir, you just went outside of the narrative. You must be silenced.
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