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Football Recruiting Update: Clemson QB commit makes Elite 11
May 15, 2016, 10:59 AM
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GeeZ...2 of the Top 15 QB's in the Nation! ??
May 15, 2016, 11:05 AM
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Is Clemson QBU or what if you add in DW4 and the enrollees here now. ??
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That is Awesome
May 15, 2016, 11:35 AM
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Go Tigers!!!
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Our future QB next yr
May 15, 2016, 11:38 AM
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Will be at that camp
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Re: Our future QB next yr
May 15, 2016, 1:00 PM
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Zerrick Cooper and if Kelly Bryant develops into a decent passer still has a chance. either way it's going to be an interesting QB competition next year especially if Brice and Johnson are early enrolles
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Re: Our future QB next yr
May 15, 2016, 1:29 PM
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I think Zerrick Cooper will push for early playing time.
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? According to the article, 15 QBs are invited. It lists 15
May 15, 2016, 11:45 AM
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QBs, but does not include Hunter Johnson:
The fifteen quarterback invited nationally are Kellen Mond, Jake Allen, Chase Garbers, Tate Martell, Shawn Robinson, Chase Brice, Jake Fromm, Chris Robison, Davis Mills, Sam Ehlinger, Tommy Devitto, Lowell Narcisse, Mac Jones, Myles Brennan, and Sean Clifford.
Interesting. Wonder which one does not belong?
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There WAS 15 invited. Hunter makes it 16. So 2/16 = 12.5%
May 15, 2016, 12:00 PM
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Still outstanding that we represent an eighth of the current Elite 11 invites.
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Orange Immortal [65671]
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No, it says we have two of the top 15, not 16.
May 15, 2016, 12:10 PM
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I agree that it really doesn't matter, and that there is no doubt we have two of the best QB recruits in the country, at least two of the top 16, but the article clearly says there are 15 total, not 16.
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Yes, there were 15 invitees before Hunter. Hunter makes 16. Article was wrong.
May 15, 2016, 12:54 PM
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That's what I was stating.
Message was edited by: gtriple®
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Okay, got it!***
May 15, 2016, 12:57 PM
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Just Curious, when you see Johnson
May 15, 2016, 1:31 PM
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Who does he remind you of?
Any former Tigers, what about players in general?
#21
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Re: Just Curious, when you see Johnson
May 15, 2016, 6:11 PM
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JT Barrett Imo
Very very similar
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Re: Just Curious, when you see Johnson
May 15, 2016, 6:13 PM
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It will be an interesting QB battle because Z Cooper has a ton of talent & upside. Tough to make a prediction on his ceiling. I could see him winning the job, but Johnson seems more like a sure fire star imo.
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Definitely not Barret
May 16, 2016, 7:29 AM
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Hunter has a much better and stronger arm. Closest in size, athleticism, accuracy, arm strength, off the field behavior and leadership qualities.... I'd have to say (excuse the lofty comparison) Andrew Luck. I'm not saying he will be anywhere as good as Luck, but coming out of HS, he looks a lot like him.
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Re: Definitely not Barret
May 16, 2016, 2:04 PM
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> Hunter has a much better and stronger arm. Closest in
> size, athleticism, accuracy, arm strength, off the
> field behavior and leadership qualities.... I'd have
> to say (excuse the lofty comparison) Andrew Luck. I'm
> not saying he will be anywhere as good as Luck, but
> coming out of HS, he looks a lot like him.
Barrett, not Barret. Kidding
I like the Luck comparison better too.
Chad Kelly actually comes to mind as the best comparison tho, minus extra curriculars hopefully lol.
I was struggling to think of someone with Hunter Johnson's arm strength because not many players have what he has, but Barrett & Johnson are very similar in terms of athleticism. The difference was Barrett was not as developed as a passer, but after his RS year at Ohio St him and Johnson play very similar. The difference being HJ is able to fit the ball into tighter windows & throw the deep ball better, but he will need to develop more touch on his throws in college, and that is something Barret does very well.
But if you put them on the field in tOSU & Clemson's offense you'd call very similar plays imo. Hunter Johnson just doesn't need to redshirt like Barrett.
Athleticism coming out of HS =
JTB was 6'2, 200, & ran a 4.6 40
Hunter Johnson 6'2.5, 205, 4.6 40
If had them do agility drills they would score very similar imo, so would Andrew Luck & Chad Kelly btw, & Johnson will probably play at 220-225 like Barrett. For some reason Johnson is listed as a pro style QB, and while he has a cannon of an arm, he's a dual threat QB ALLDAY. He has very good running ability.
Also, they play in similar offenses, keep their eyes downfield, know when to tuck and run, & seem to take the same amount of risk with their passes in order to make big plays. Johnson as a Jr had around 30Td's & 10ints, same as Barrett as a RS frosh at OSU.
Both are playmakers with their feet and tend to galvanize their teams. JT Barrett had some off the field issues, but his teammates respond to him, & he's the leader of the Buckeyes, so if you're dismissing his leadership at tOSU because he got in trouble I think your point is invalid. I've never hung out with Hunter Johnson or JT Barrett off the field so I couldn't comment on that with any type of certainty. Maybe you have. You never know what kids do off the field & what pressure will do to them. Kids make mistakes all the time,(Sammy) but before Barrett got in trouble Urban Meyer was beating the JT Barrett leadership drum to death.
Similar in a lot of ways imo.
Jmo
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why call it the Elite 11 when there is 16 going?
May 15, 2016, 6:03 PM
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just asking
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Re: why call it the Elite 11 when there is 16 going?
May 16, 2016, 2:16 PM
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I would put this in the same boat as why do we call the Big 10 and Big 12 those names when it doesn't make sense.
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