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USCjr Buying Their Roster
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I read where the coots paid Sellers $3 mil for him to stay after paying Noland millions to come to their school. How many millions did they pay last year only to beat us by 3 points? I hope they end up like FSU this year. If it wasn’t for NIL, they would not be the team they are today.
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 6:48 AM
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The Darius Rucker concert for the boosters worked s few weeks ago.
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Hall of Famer [8153]
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Belittling the coots for using NIL is like
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Belittling our baseball or basketball programs for using the portal and NIL. It’s just ridiculous to belittle them for a perfectly legal and normal act.
There’s plenty of other things to knock them for.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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^^^THIS^^^***
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:58 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [33593]
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All-TigerNet [5666]
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Gtriple......
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Dec 26, 2024, 1:57 PM
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with the HR.
Better start getting better at player acquisition business...especially HS kids. Ppl who deny the talent gaps at certain positions just aren't facing reality
Thing that stings the most is this is 1000% self-inflicted. NO reason for it.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 6:59 AM
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Exactly
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:17 AM
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They are recruiting decently too. They have a nice balance. It sucks, but the coots are just in the mix.
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Letterman [159]
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 11:36 AM
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This is my stance, too. Yes, they’re competitive in the portal, but they’re not one of the insane schools tossing around crazy money. Paying $3 Million for Sellers doesn’t seem absurd to me. He’s their most important player and a darn good one. They also are recruiting well enough. Not top tier recruiting, but certainly well enough combined with their portal usage.
I think what many discount about Beamer’s staff is that, by and large, they hit on their player evaluations in the portal. That’s what keeps them from being like FSU (that and FSU just tossed around obscene money).
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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One decent 9 win season? A little premature to say all you did.
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Dec 26, 2024, 1:51 PM
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They’re losing 40 players including their entire front 7 on defense. There’s very little basis to say what you said. They could just as easily flop.
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Game Changer [1893]
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Not true, the best player on that front 7 is a freshman
Dec 26, 2024, 5:33 PM
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and is staying at SC.
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:28 AM
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They are not that good
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:31 AM
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I think they're going to be pretty good over the next 2-3 years sadly.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Based on what?***
Dec 26, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Asst Coach [891]
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Re: Based on what?***
Dec 26, 2024, 5:37 PM
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Maybe they’re hot recruiting and play as of late. Crazy right. They will be a handful.
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Ring of Honor [23668]
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Their HS and portal recruitment are out-pacing us.
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So many on here gave Wes a pass because of talent issues. Well, when your rivals acquires more talent your coaches look worse in those games.
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Unfortunately, they have recently gotten good enough to be competitive. We are 2-2 over the last 4 years. We just have to recognize how much things have changed with recruiting/roster management and respond accordingly. We also have to take honest looks about how we are developing these players and Dabo has to decide if he needs to tweak the staff to improve in this area.
Dabo is stubborn but he is also smart, successful, and driven. I think being back in the playoffs and being competitive with a quality team like Texas stirred his passion. He sees what is going on and I think he will address it in short order.
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Yes they are. We must admit it and move out of the 19th century. We drive an Edsel and others drive a Tesla.
Dabs is still not pushing us as he should.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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LOL. BS.***
Dec 26, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:39 AM
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Please don't litter the board with this chicken💩 talk.
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 11:37 AM
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I think it’s called reality. I specifically seeing you post that USCjr. has no chance of beating us back in November. Well, we all see how that turned out. That’s 2 of the last 3 for the chickens. They’re our rival; it stands to reason we use them as a measuring stick for the current state of our program. Especially consider we share the state and often recruit some of the same players.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Whats *reality*? Nothing but speculative guesses.***
Dec 26, 2024, 1:54 PM
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I read where the coots paid Sellers $3 mil for him to stay after paying Noland millions to come to their school. How many millions did they pay last year only to beat us by 3 points? I hope they end up like FSU this year. If it wasn’t for NIL, they would not be the team they are today.
Regardless of how many points they won by is irrelevant. They still won the game. All the millions they spent was worth it. If Clemson would buy a roster and wins, no one on here would complain.
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:35 AM
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You are absolutely right. NIL is to where it has created a free agency. Kids aren’t loyal to the team will be a new norm. I am not knocking these kids making money to play. USCjr’s pockets are deep and willing to pay.
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Campus Hero [14014]
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No you did not; you read hes estimated to be worth $2.7M
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:16 AM
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The much misunderstood X post said his On3 VALUATION was 2.7M. No one on Twitter knows any more about what he’s making than they know about what you’re getting paid.
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Re: No you did not; you read hes estimated to be worth $2.7M
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That is true. What we do know is that people were most likely coming after him and SC paid what was needed to keep him.
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One day you will wake up and realize that when players have uniforms on, nobody on the other side, knows or cares, what kind of vehicle an opponent drives or how much is in his investment portfolio.
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Yes, they only won by 3 points, but....
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Ask any gamecock fan you know, how much money they would spend to beat us every year by 3 points? To them it is worth it, and they are using every legal means necessary to win ball games.
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:26 AM
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They have to pony up… no one actually wants to go there.
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110%er [3834]
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:28 AM
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Are they buying or just renting? Do they get more than one season out of these kids for that kind of money?
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If this player buying doesn’t slow down, before long there will be contracts with performance bonuses for the players. And a Union, and players not going to spring practice or showing up for fall camp because a teammate got a better NIL deal. It coming folks, no matter what school you pull for.
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Solid Orange [1381]
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A union (or association) would be a great move. There need to be negotiated
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:50 AM
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rules in place, leading to more binding contracts between schools and players to make sure some stability remains in the sport. It'd be healthy for almost all aspects of college football.
Without some sort of organization on the players side the rules will continue to be fluid, the wild west nature of the sport that is ramping up will exist into perpetuity.
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Legend [6925]
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Re: A union (or association) would be a great move. There need to be negotiated
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Well then get ready for strikes!!!
Imagine not have college football for a season or part of it
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Re: A union (or association) would be a great move. There need to be negotiated
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:18 AM
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Also, just wait to try and 'fire' a player. The paperwork drill will be a blast.
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Solid Orange [1381]
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They are getting paid money, should be binding contracts negotiated between
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willing partners. That should be the rules put on place, as it is with coaches.
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Yep, nothing more than NFL farm teams
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Playing ball on beautiful college campuses and wearing our schools colors.
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Solid Orange [1381]
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That's what it's been for decades.***
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Paw Warrior [4830]
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Dec 26, 2024, 3:53 PM
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At least MLB pays for their farm. The Jerry Jones Associates get one for free.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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and if it wasn't for Dabo slowplaying NIL & portal we'd still be ELITE***
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:05 AM
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Re: and if it wasn't for Dabo slowplaying NIL & portal we'd still be ELITE***
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The coots have to buy their team. They are losing a lot. Most of their good defense is gone after the bowl game. They will not be as decent next year as they were this year. Their scheduling turned out to be a plus for them even though it looked bleak on paper. They beat us because some of our coaching sucked. They beat Texas A&M only because A&M put all they had in the Texas game the week before. They played Kentucky before Kentucky jelled. Oklahoma was just not good and very mediocre. Vandy was luck. Things will not be as fortunate for them next year, no matter who they buy.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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and on the flip side......they "should've" beaten bama & LSU
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that woulda, shoulda, coulda game can be played both ways.
bottomline is the NIL/Portal has changed the game. Dabo's reluctance to accept that and utilize the "new world" to Clemson's advantage has hurt us. Gaps b/w us and other teams that we used to beat the brakes off have closed.
Look no further than our 9-13 record against 8+ win P4/5 teams from 2021-present..............1-7 in only OOC games w/ that criteria.............that's pathetic for a program that should be "ELITE"
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Game Changer [2008]
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Re: and if it wasn't for Dabo slowplaying NIL & portal we'd still be ELITE***
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They’ll be just as good if not better. Don’t be shocked to see them actually make the playoffs. They’re doing what it takes to be elite and consistent. Dabo well, is happy as long as we win the conference championship, which in 2024 is like winning the tallest midget contest…
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Re: and if it wasn't for Dabo slowplaying NIL & portal we'd still be ELITE***
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We. You are 100% coot!!
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I don't think you realize how much they lose
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On defense. There's no way that defense is anywhere near what it was this year.
Now the offense may be a different story, but they did lose their actual offensive coordinator.
Either way they better hope they can out score people bc the defense will be ugly.
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Dec 26, 2024, 2:38 PM
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The guy broke 18 tackles and went for over 170 on the ground. That's about as close as it gets to the term "getting run over" that you will find. If you want to pretend a coaching decision caused that, go ahead.
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Game Changer [1893]
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Wasnt responding to you, was responding to the
Dec 26, 2024, 5:35 PM
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poster who made an excuse for every SC win, including that they “played Kentucky the week before Kentucky gelled” haha. What a moron.
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Dec 26, 2024, 5:46 PM
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My bad. Apologies.
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Re: Youve been defeated on this numerous times.
Dec 26, 2024, 5:36 PM
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The only true thing you said was that an elite QB makes the offense elite
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Orange Phenom [14559]
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Unless there is new info that 3mil was a
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made up number generated by a formula that's supposed to estimate a players NIL value. It's probably a rough estimate at best.
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Can you show where you read theyre paying him $3M?
Dec 26, 2024, 12:30 PM
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Maybe you’re confusing On3’s valuation number?
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Tiger Spirit [9788]
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Every team in America is buying their roster. Breaking news: water is wet.***
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Dec 26, 2024, 1:57 PM
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Take off your orange glasses folks. Beamer has their program on the come up(they beat us the last 2out of 3 years) and dabo has lost his mojo and isn’t recruiting like he use to(our current class is ranked in the 30s and that’s nowhere near elite). Just stating facts!
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Dynasty Maker [3495]
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Clemson was your best win, coot.
Dec 26, 2024, 2:01 PM
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And we gave you the game.
Your pipe dreams are null and void.
Do you really think you’re fooling anyone with your low IQ, juvenile charade?
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Re: Clemson was your best win, coot.
Dec 26, 2024, 5:34 PM
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Calling someone a coot for stating it how it is and not liking that is old. Wake up and stop looking at everything with so many blinders
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110%er [4031]
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
Dec 26, 2024, 4:00 PM
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sounds good. we should do the same.. like everyone else.
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Solid Orange [1395]
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
Dec 26, 2024, 5:38 PM
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I don’t know why this is so hard for people. Acting like it’s evil that players who produce so much money for ESPN, schools and towns shouldn’t be able to profit from it. All for free market capitalism until it’s inconvenient
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CU Medallion [18144]
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they had a solid recruiting class a
Dec 26, 2024, 5:22 PM
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and appear to be playing the portal nicely as well. at least their coach is willing to better the team with the tools put forward to him. i mean we picked up a de. okay cool
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Solid Orange [1395]
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Re: USCjr Buying Their Roster
Dec 26, 2024, 5:32 PM
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That is legal to do nowadays!
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