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US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 11:18 AM
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https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
Clemson ranked as the #23 Public University and #67 National
although usuck has moved up a tiny bit, they're still ranked far behind Clemson---chickenU is tied with UTenn at #46 Public University----they didn't make the Top 100 National Universities
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101244]
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23rd...did we rank better or worse from last year?
Sep 12, 2017, 11:45 AM
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Seems we were 20th at one time but maybe not.
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We've gone down from 19th or 20th a few years ago***
Sep 12, 2017, 5:56 PM
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UL=165...pathetic******
Sep 12, 2017, 12:39 PM
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 12:44 PM
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I love how you guys are ranked in the 60s and still consider yourselves a top school. Very cute. I also find it funny that you guys make fun of Louisville's 75% acceptance rate while yours is over 50%. With those numbers, both schools have many smart kids and quite a few dumb ones.
By the way, being that Louisville is in a city of 1.3mm, about half of Louisville fans didn't even go to Louisville. It serves almost as a pro team, with heavy corporate interest from the F500 companies in the city. I went to Columbia, the Ivy League school in New York, not the one you are used to. Our acceptance rate is under 8%.
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Associate AD [1072]
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Lah-di-dah***
Sep 12, 2017, 12:55 PM
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Not sure how attending Columbia is pertinent to this thread, but congratulations to you.
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 12:59 PM
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Because Columbia sports suck and I live in Louisville. Mainly pointing out:
1. You are in no position to call out Louisville for being a bad school when Clemson is pretty much the same.
2. Calling Louisville fans dumb because of the US News ranking of the school doesn't make sense....
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Legend [6625]
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Did they not teach simple math at Columbia?
Sep 12, 2017, 1:10 PM
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Those numbers aren't anywhere close to "pretty much the same"
That's about as dumb as your quarterback
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Re: Did they not teach simple math at Columbia?
Sep 12, 2017, 1:14 PM
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You guys have an acceptance rate of over 50% full stop. In terms of admissions, outside of the top 30-36 schools it is pretty much pay to play. As an employer, unless the candidate graduated from a top 10-20 school, the school won't give any leg up (course work more important). For all practical purposes, state schools outside the top 50 are lumped together.
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Legend [6625]
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Oh sure. You sound a lot like a local QB prodoligy...
Sep 12, 2017, 1:42 PM
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"They weren't that much better than us, if at all"
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Re: Did they not teach simple math at Columbia?***
Sep 12, 2017, 1:57 PM
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I remember a few years ago when a major sportscaster got into a lot of trouble talking about how the Lville basketball team was composed of 'low quality students'. That hasn't changed much!
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Re: Did they not teach simple math at Columbia?***
Sep 12, 2017, 1:57 PM
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I remember a few years ago when a major sportscaster got into a lot of trouble talking about how the Lville basketball team was composed of 'low quality students'. That hasn't changed much!
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Wrong again. Here in South Carolina a Clemson degree...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:05 PM
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goes much further than a degree from South Carolina. An overwhelming majority of Clemson grads have good paying middle class jobs within a few years of graduation. Meanwhile tons of gamecock graduates have to go to a two year technical school to get an associates degree to get a job that pays above minimum wage.
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Ring of Honor [23794]
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Wow. Just wow.
Sep 12, 2017, 2:15 PM
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A Columbia University grad is coming on a sports board to argue the relative academic merits of two public universities?
Don't you have some Latin to translate or surgery to perform?
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Re: Wow. Just wow.
Sep 12, 2017, 2:43 PM
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No, he doesn't. That would mean he's telling the truth.
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yes we are as Clemson is significantly better academically than Lville...
Sep 12, 2017, 1:58 PM
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The numbers you brought up prove that. Did you learn math at Columbia? And why are you bragging about a lame city in Louisville when you have an Ivy League degree? You got ripped off by Columbia if living in an STD infested city like Louisville is the best you can do. Oh do you, Petrino, and Pitino hook up for hooker night.
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Re: yes we are as Clemson is significantly better academically than Lville...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:01 PM
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Lol... I moved to Louisville to do real estate development. Returns are high here and it's a growing city. I own property in Charleston too. That is the only city in SC that rivals Louisville from a cultural standpoint. I looked at Anderson, Greenville, your neck of the woods, and they are cultureless shitholes.
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Re: yes we are as Clemson is significantly better academically than Lville...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:02 PM
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Hmm, real estate development and Louisville...you run a brothel, right?
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Re: yes we are as Clemson is significantly better academically than Lville...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:04 PM
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No...
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Re: yes we are as Clemson is significantly better academically than Lville...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:06 PM
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Come on, that's a hot market in Lewisville. You've got steady customers in a football and basketball coach.
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Re: now the Ivy League claim is falling apart...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:11 PM
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Real estate isn't that shady of a business, like all sectors it has it's bad apples.
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They don't teach grammar at Cootlumbia?
Sep 12, 2017, 9:59 PM
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It's, not it's.
But if you had a Clemson's education, you would know better.
Moran
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CU Medallion [18213]
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Its
Sep 12, 2017, 10:03 PM
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Something weird going on here
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Re: now the Ivy League claim is falling apart...
Sep 12, 2017, 2:13 PM
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Lol.. I worked at a bank, then a hedge fund, then raised money to start a real estate investment business. Institutional players like Blackstone are in the real estate business too. I know you are a simple man, but no, real estate investment is not a sketchy business.
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hedge fund, even more shadier. Nice job in keeping up Loserville's gangster reputation***
Sep 12, 2017, 2:15 PM
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Re: hedge fund, even more shadier. Nice job in keeping up Loserville's gangster reputation***
Sep 12, 2017, 2:16 PM
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Even more shadier?
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I don't like you and I can't agree with you.
Sep 12, 2017, 2:33 PM
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I am going to be an ### and just straight up say I have had tickets and premier parking passes that I have paid out the mothra for and I haven't seen you once at those games.
Dude you talk so much #### on here and throw weight but I don't buy it.
Just one mans opinion. And don't play that Alum vs. NonAlum. That crap don't fly. I have been IPTAY since 1999. Took all my boat cleaning and waxing and bar tending dollars and put it all into IPTAY. I had season tickets while you were dancing with the ugliest chick in high school.
I call you a ####### fraud and always will. You ############# fraud.
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Re: I don't like you and I can't agree with you.
Sep 12, 2017, 2:34 PM
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Wut?
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Re: I don't like you and I can't agree with you.
Sep 12, 2017, 2:42 PM
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Sorry dude, it's highly likely that I'm much stronger than you. Not claiming I'm the strongest person or a bad ####, but I am much stronger than the average American male. I was skinny as a youth, and when I see people from my youth that haven't seen me in years they are surprised by how much muscle I have added over the years. So highly unlikely you could do anything to me if challenged me. Most likely I would just shove you to the ground and tell you take your loss like a man without even punching you.
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No for a stalker like you I would eat a habanero bean
Sep 12, 2017, 7:43 PM
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burrito and fart in your mouth. CS02
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another screen name changer, get a life man...
Sep 12, 2017, 7:49 PM
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it's just an internet message board. If you don't like me, then put me on ignore. And I go to all the home games. Plus you don't know what I look like, so how could you have ever seen me anywhere? You also made the same exact statement before under a different screen name. And I told you then that I was attending games long before you and was an IPTAY member before you. And I'm not an Alum, just a fan. If you want to see me so bad, tell me where your parking place is and I will be sure to go leave a few giant turds before you get there, then at least you will know how my ish smells. A912®
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Nobody has ever associated culture with the city of Louisville..
Sep 12, 2017, 2:12 PM
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All it is is a former hangout city for Chicago gangsters who didn't want to followed by cops. Yeah hookers are really a high form of culture ??????????. Don't worry Petrino and Pitino are keeping that gangster culture alive.
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 6:22 PM
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Clemson isn't an Ivy League school, but saying that it's a "bad school" and including UL in the same category is just ignorant.
You are also implying that there are really only 50 or so schools that "stand out" to employers in any way? If you really believe that then I hardly believe you went to Columbia because that might be the dumbest statement ever
In fact, maybe I do. Elitists tend to be stuck halfway up their own arses
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Columbia University is a cesspool
Sep 12, 2017, 7:04 PM
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Of all the schools my son visited, Columbia was the biggest joke of all. The tour was lead by a guy in a dress. He assured my son that it was a great place to go where you could do coke with the professors.
The ultimate in elitest ######## factories.
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 10:28 PM
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Clemson is the 23rd rated school in as far as public universities . Louisville is 165th ?
I'm no Columbia grad , but that comparison certainly makes me think that Clemson would be where I would go given the choice of UL and CU ...based on this single metric.
Again , no Cola grad or whatever ...but I can discern between close and far away .
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Man, for someone who went to Columbia
Sep 13, 2017, 12:05 AM
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You sure have no concept of statistics whatsoever.
Or instead of Columbia University, did you mean the university from Columbia, SC?
But what do I know, my school only ranks in the 60s?
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 1:43 PM
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Louisville is ranked 87th in public schools compared to our 23rd. If you don't think that's a big difference maybe you need a refund for your big Ivy league degree.
Louisville's acceptance rate is 22% more than Clemson's, also not quite the "same."
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 1:57 PM
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Think of it like a pyramid. There are very schools at the top and each level below there are many more.
For practical purposes, no one really cares about rankings outside the very top tier.
There will be talented people from both schools, but the school itself won't do anything to differentiate you, sorry to say.
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 2:00 PM
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Think of it like a pyramid, there are "very" schools at each level. Unfortunately, Louisville is on a level lower than Clemson.
I graduated from Clemson and have a great career, so I don't really care if some employers differentiate on if you went to a "better" school. I tell those uppity people, including you, to #### off.
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And Ivy League schools give nothing back to the communities or states they are located in..
Sep 12, 2017, 1:53 PM
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Meanwhile Clemson gives back to the local community and the state by providing ingenious agricultural advancement methods, extensions in the low country that help with protecting the coastal areas and sustaining coastal wildlife, horticulture extensions throughout the state, a nursing program which is bringing more quality nurses into South Carolina's medical systems. We also give back to the country by providing new technologies for the military and government.
What does Columbia give back, other than stroking the egos of it's graduates? And why are you on this board, it's not a board representing a snobbish gives nothing back to the community Ivy League School?
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Re: And Ivy League schools give nothing back to the communities or states they are located in..
Sep 12, 2017, 1:59 PM
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U of L is very involved with its community, as am I, given that's where I live.
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Re: And Ivy League schools give nothing back to the communities or states they are located in..
Sep 12, 2017, 2:01 PM
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The absolutely do, they keep up the hookers and blow market.
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 2:15 PM
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I own about $20mm worth of property here and I am under 30. What do you think?
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Yes yes and I'm dating Bella Hadid and Rihanna***
Sep 12, 2017, 2:18 PM
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Re: Yes yes and I'm dating Bella Hadid and Rihanna***
Sep 12, 2017, 2:24 PM
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Funny how you think a $20mm portfolio is equivalent to dating Rihanna and a swimsuit model. It's small to me. I'm planning on growing it substantially in the next 5-10 years. #smallman #smallminded
@tigerdave it's not small to me, it's small in the overall scheme of things. I mentioned I'm young and hoping to grow it substantially. Certainly not at Rihanna/ Bella Hadid status right now.
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Dude, if you're not gonna show us pics of your
Sep 12, 2017, 2:27 PM
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ginormous weiner, just G T F O
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Re: Yes yes and I'm dating Bella Hadid and Rihanna***
Sep 12, 2017, 2:52 PM
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If it were small to you, then you wouldn't have mentioned it. At this point it really doesn't matter if it's true or false. You have established yourself here as a either a giant ######### or a pathetic liar. Move along, small man with a big truck. We know who you are.
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Re: I bet you own that property about like the guy who poured
Sep 12, 2017, 2:27 PM
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Lol.. I don't do construction although I know a lot more about it than when I started investing on my own.
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Re: I bet you own that property about like the guy who poured
Sep 12, 2017, 2:28 PM
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I think his point went over your Ivy league education, lol.
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Re: You've heard of TOUCHDOWN JESUS?
Sep 12, 2017, 2:39 PM
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That's true. There is a sculpture of an owl hidden in Alma Mater and you are supposed to find it before you start classes your freshman year, for good luck or something.
I can't reply anymore because my "tiger pulse" is too low. I can't respond to you meatheads without getting that up, so please help me out.
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Re: I bet you own that property about like the guy who poured
Sep 12, 2017, 7:11 PM
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Let's see you have an extra trailer you rent out , so you call your self a real estate mogul.
LOL keep dreaming there cool breeze, just like everything you read on the internet is true
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I went to The University of Chicago
Sep 12, 2017, 6:14 PM
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You might see it there at #3, with an 8% acceptance rate. I can tell you that the people there laugh at places like Columbia with its grade inflation and middle-brow lack of intellectualism.
I also live in Chicago, a city of 12 million, where nobody cares about college football because they're too busy, and nobody would go down to a little slack-jaw hamlet like Louisville unless they felt the need to escape to the hinterlands. It's cute that you think anybody in real cities care about anything in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
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All-TigerNet [14488]
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Rival Killer [3022]
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How unfortunate for you
Sep 12, 2017, 7:43 PM
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Your over priced "Ivy League" degree bought you nothing but smug arrogance and a vastly over- exaggerated level of self-esteem...obviously. ANYONE that goes on a college football discussion site and inevitably mentions his college credentials is without doubt over-compensating.
Your "Ivy League" bona fides don't impress here pal. As a matter of fact, in these days and times, it indicates all the more that you have been severely mis-educated and programmed rather than taught critical thinking skills....just another progressive automaton.
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Recruit [96]
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 8:04 PM
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> I love how you guys are ranked in the 60s and still
> consider yourselves a top school. Very cute. I also
> find it funny that you guys make fun of Louisville's
> 75% acceptance rate while yours is over 50%. With
> those numbers, both schools have many smart kids and
> quite a few dumb ones.
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> By the way, being that Louisville is in a city of
> 1.3mm, about half of Louisville fans didn't even go
> to Louisville. It serves almost as a pro team, with
> heavy corporate interest from the F500 companies in
> the city. I went to Columbia, the Ivy League school
> in New York, not the one you are used to. Our
> acceptance rate is under 8%.
Columbia's undergrad student enrollment is only 8400 which makes it smaller than College of Charleston. It is obviously going to be more selective given it has less than half the number of seats as Clemson which is up over 18,000 undergrads now. Clemson also has to take 65 percent or so in state students while Columbia as a private can take as many out of state students as they want.
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CU Guru [1832]
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How one manages to be so condescending, while making
Sep 12, 2017, 11:27 PM
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Numerous grammatical errors, is beyond me. If you would like to sound astout, sir, I would suggest you reread your own post.
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Asst Coach [817]
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Louisville doesn't have 1.3 mm people
Sep 13, 2017, 5:49 AM
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The MSA and CSA include other cities in the region, including in Indiana, to get to that number. The CSA is a just little more populous than Greenville/Spartanburg/Anderson. The MSA is smaller than Raleigh and maybe 40% larger than Greenville, etc, but Greenville is growing at almost double the rate of Lewisville.
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Recruit [96]
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Re: US News &World Report college rankings out (link)
Sep 12, 2017, 4:33 PM
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Most employers view the large 'flagship' state universities and land grant universities the same. In general it is a good idea to go to a college in the region that you want to live in after graduation because there will more alumni of your college in hiring positions.
It is obvious US News rankings are silly when very similar universities to Clemson like Oregon State and Iowa State are ranked much lower.
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Dynasty Maker [3494]
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Ask 100 Employers Which Degree is Worth the Most
Sep 12, 2017, 6:53 PM
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Clemson, Oregon State, or Iowa State.
Yes, there would be some regional differences, but I'd almost guarantee you NATIONALLY Clemson would get 50% of the votes. Maybe 60-70%. This is across ALL majors (on average)... certainly if you nitpicked specific areas (for example, Journalism) we'd rank lower than even schools ranked in the 170's overall.
Many people outside of the Southeast view Clemson like a Second Tier Private School... ala Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Furman, etc. In fact, many people think that Clemson IS a private school (especially outside of the Southeast). I'd say Clemson compares very much in the same breath as all of the public schools in the top 25 outside of maybe the top 5. If you get outside of states bordering the other public schools below #25 I think you'd have difficulty finding any place where a majority of people thought Public School >25 gives degrees worth more than Clemson.
Heck - I lived in Indiana for 5 years (which includes suburbs of Louisville) - and while I'd say they value Louisville more than most, I'd say many from Indianapolis and further north would prefer a Clemson grad over a Louisville one. And unless its Journalism they aren't going to touch a USCar grad if compared to a Clemson grad (all other things equal).
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Recruit [96]
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Re: Ask 100 Employers Which Degree is Worth the Most
Sep 12, 2017, 7:57 PM
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> Clemson, Oregon State, or Iowa State.
>
> Yes, there would be some regional differences, but
> I'd almost guarantee you NATIONALLY Clemson would get
> 50% of the votes. Maybe 60-70%. This is across ALL
> majors (on average)... certainly if you nitpicked
> specific areas (for example, Journalism) we'd rank
> lower than even schools ranked in the 170's overall.
>
> Many people outside of the Southeast view Clemson
> like a Second Tier Private School... ala Wake Forest,
> Vanderbilt, Furman, etc. In fact, many people think
> that Clemson IS a private school (especially outside
> of the Southeast). I'd say Clemson compares very
> much in the same breath as all of the public schools
> in the top 25 outside of maybe the top 5. If you get
> outside of states bordering the other public schools
> below #25 I think you'd have difficulty finding any
> place where a majority of people thought Public
> School >25 gives degrees worth more than Clemson.
>
> Heck - I lived in Indiana for 5 years (which includes
> suburbs of Louisville) - and while I'd say they value
> Louisville more than most, I'd say many from
> Indianapolis and further north would prefer a Clemson
> grad over a Louisville one. And unless its
> Journalism they aren't going to touch a USCar grad if
> compared to a Clemson grad (all other things equal).
You didn't provide any evidence that most employers would favor Clemson over other large universities like Iowa State and Oregon State.
I am not sure how people who did not attend Clemson could claim it is better or worse than another college that they didn't attend. THat is like reviewing and comparing restaurants that you never ate at.
My father graduated with electrical engineering degree from SC and never had any problem getting a job.
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Tiger Titan [50789]
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I agree with this 100%.
Sep 12, 2017, 9:42 PM
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Especially the part about most people thinking Clemson is a private school. Serves us as alums well. My Clemson undergraduate degree allowed me to go on to obtain postgraduate degrees from two top private schools - one of which is in the top 5 of the USN&WR ranking. I would put the rigor of Clemson's academics up against both.
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Recruit [96]
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Re: I agree with this 100%.
Sep 13, 2017, 4:27 PM
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Public universities generally have better reps than private colleges in engineering, architecture and business. And I don't think most recruiters think Clemson is private.
The only reason people think private universities are better is they are more selective but that is a function of them being so small and not required to take a large percentage of in state students.
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