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Why does Dabo make stuff up about the Clemson fans?
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Why does Dabo make stuff up about the Clemson fans?

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Jul 21, 2022, 5:02 AM

Did people want to bench Trevor in favor of DJ in 2020?
I don’t think so.

Did people want Dabo fired last year for having a 10-win season?
I really don’t think so.

It’s hard to find a flaw in Dabo (a lot of people sure try to). But I really wish he wouldn’t stand at a podium and make up stories to make Clemson fans seem like idiots.

Does that rub anyone else the wrong way?

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Jul 21, 2022, 5:13 AM

Good point. I don't recall the bench Trevor thing, but some nearsighted folks were upset after our 10 win season. But, yeah, Dabo could have said things differently.

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Jul 21, 2022, 7:54 AM

Sorry but I do recall the bench Trevor talk on this site. Not so much bench but DJ got the hot hand we should leave him in as long as he’s hot. Also Trevor didn’t have the best start to his last season. Don’t recall any fire Dabo movement but certainly a lot of “he’s lost this team” talk.

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Jul 21, 2022, 1:18 PM

My memory is fuzzy, but I seem to recall a few fans were saying he should be terminated when he walked with the team in a "march for equality" or whatever it was called.

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Jul 21, 2022, 5:25 AM

Don't spend much time on message boards or Twitter do y'all?you see some pretty dumb and over the top reactions to things bad and unfortunately Clemson fans aren't immune to idiocy.

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Jul 22, 2022, 11:56 PM

I truly feel thar Dabo is smart enough to realize thar Clemson has some idiot fans that make some dumb and over the top remarks on message boards. I would also like to think he could give these idiots a pass when speaking in public,

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Jul 21, 2022, 6:12 AM

I’m sure he heard those things from somewhere, but definitely not the majority I assure you!

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Re: Why does Dabo make stuff up about the Clemson fans?


Jul 21, 2022, 6:22 AM

It’s a motivational tool for his team. Trying to keep that chip on their shoulder.

There were people who complained about TL throwing too many interceptions his sophomore year and a whole lot of whining and complaining last year. Calling for benching TL or firing Dabo was probably very few and far between but he’s making a point. Kinda similar to the one Saban was making with his rant last year about spoiled, entitled fans.

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Jul 22, 2022, 7:01 PM

rhettfla said:

It’s a motivational tool for his team. Trying to keep that chip on their shoulder.

There were people who complained about TL throwing too many interceptions his sophomore year and a whole lot of whining and complaining last year. Calling for benching TL or firing Dabo was probably very few and far between but he’s making a point. Kinda similar to the one Saban was making with his rant last year about spoiled, entitled fans.




You nailed it.

The team reads newspaper headlines and storylines from internet clickbait sites. Dabo is using that to his advantage.

Nothing to see here besides a smart coach using a small almost minuscule minority who said those things to his advantage to motivate.

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Jul 21, 2022, 7:04 AM

In context, his remarks were trying to justify his belief in DJ and how well he thinks he will do this season. The comparisons he provided (benching TL and fans calling for his firing) were certainly not the majority or not as widely heard at least from my poor memory.

I guess he felt it was needed since he was showing his support while knowing what we all saw from DJ last year. Regardless, I hope DJ has a great year and have 100% faith in Dabo. We’re very fortunate to have him as our coach.

Go Tigers!!!

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Jul 21, 2022, 7:32 AM

His comments seemed to disparage Clemson fans. I think it was unintentional but he could have made his point in a different way.


Dabo is certainly a great man and coach but no one is perfect.

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Did he say 'Clemson Fans,' or 'our fans?'


Jul 21, 2022, 7:34 AM

I didn't hear the speech but I remember people screaming racism when Kelly Bryant was replaced by Trevor. I remember talking heads saying Dabo reign of terror was finished and probably a few fairweather fans said the same thing.

We here in Tnet do not tolerate much hate talk directed at this headcoach. We endured that when he was first hired and many of those posters here with pulse ratings lower than 100% are the result of good solid Clemson fans talking 'Cheerleader,' crap about Dabo. Many changed handles and many are gone now.

I've been around here a bit now and lurked a while before I signed up for membership. I always give Dabo the benefit of the doubt and I do so now.

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Article says people wanted him fired after 2010


Jul 21, 2022, 7:36 AM

6 win season which is absolutely true. A few people always think the 2nd string QB should be the starter.

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Re: Article says people wanted him fired after 2010


Jul 21, 2022, 10:47 AM

Dabo went on to say in the same interview that the year after the 6 win season we won our first ACC Championship in 20 years and then had our first 10 win season in 20 years and now there are people who want him fired for only winning 10 games.

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Jul 21, 2022, 7:36 AM

I don't recall anyone calling for his firing on TNet. As usual, there were a few coots in disguise on social media trying to sow discord.

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He's not wrong. We do have some pretty stupid fans.


Jul 21, 2022, 7:46 AM

Every fan base does. With what he said, should be a wake up call to everyone. (They DO visit Tigernet, twitter, and 247).

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:00 AM

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Jul 21, 2022, 5:02 AM
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Did people want to bench Trevor in favor of DJ in 2020?
I don’t think so.

Did people want Dabo fired last year for having a 10-win season?
I really don’t think so.

It’s hard to find a flaw in Dabo (a lot of people sure try to). But I really wish he wouldn’t stand at a podium and make up stories to make Clemson fans seem like idiots.

Does that rub anyone else the wrong way?

THIS IDIOTIC BOARD RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY.

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:23 AM

If Dabo saw criticism from the fan base to bench Trevor (It could have been a letter he received), I’ll bet it stemmed from the BLM march. Ironically, that march was one of the few that stuck to the issue, remained peaceful, and didn’t turn into an opportunity to burn down or loot local businesses.

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:42 AM



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Re: Man that's a giant leap.***


Jul 21, 2022, 10:00 AM

It always boils down to something race related. A racist fan upset about a BLM march wanted to demote the white guy for marching in favor a person that is the race that the march was supporting. This makes perfect sense. :)

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Jul 21, 2022, 9:06 AM [ in reply to Re: Why does Dabo make stuff up about the Clemson fans? ]



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Then leave. Pretty simple solution.***


Jul 26, 2022, 3:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Why does Dabo make stuff up about the Clemson fans? ]



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Hes just saying - There's always going to be people beaching


Jul 21, 2022, 8:27 AM

about something...

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:28 AM

Dabo said they wanted him fired after his first year.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:51 AM

From the Dabo ESPN interview:

"I don't need anybody on a message board to tell me who DJ is," Swinney said. "Just ask [former athletic director] Terry Don Phillips. I won six games my second year as the head coach. There was a lot of people on the message boards wanting me gone. Then next year, we won the ACC for the first time in 20 years. We won 10 games for the first time in 20 years. Now, we win 10 games and they want to fire me."

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Jul 22, 2022, 11:12 AM

Context, genius, context.

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He just knows what Munson tells him about message boards.***


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Jul 21, 2022, 8:46 AM

Dabo only relies on Munson to tell him which "hash" the play should start from.

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Dabo just told Message Board Whiners THAT


Jul 21, 2022, 8:31 AM

they really don't matter in the big scheme of things. Which, is true, but you dipshyts were told you mattered back around 2008 and it'll now cause a a lot of butthurt with that realization.


He's right though LOL

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:28 AM

You will always find fans that disagree or just don't understand-that is why we have a forum.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:30 AM [ in reply to Dabo just told Message Board Whiners THAT ]

You will always find fans that disagree or just don't understand-that is why we have a forum.

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Dabo motivates himself (and his team probably) with an


Jul 21, 2022, 8:32 AM

underdog mentality. The problem with an underdog mentality is that when you reach the top of the sport, it doesn't really work anymore. I think over these last few years Dabo has been searching for motivation and kind of grasping at straws. That's my take anyway.

But yeah, nobody wanted Trevor benched in 2020 and nobody wanted Dabo fired last year.

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:37 AM

Dabo didnt say last year. He said after his first year when Clemson won 6 games.

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Oh, well that's a bit of a different story.


Jul 21, 2022, 8:39 AM

That was his 2nd year though and he had almost won the ACC in his first season. I think his leash was certainly getting a bit short after the 2010 season, and a few people were clamoring for him to be fired, but i think the majority of fans wanted to give him more time.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:31 AM

Okay after his 2nd year. Thanks for the correction.

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He literally said


Jul 21, 2022, 8:39 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo motivates himself (and his team probably) with an ]

"now they want me fired when I win 10 games".

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Jul 21, 2022, 9:27 AM

Agreed. And we all know that is not the overwhelming sentiment among Tiger fans. If we are being honest we all also know there was a lot of criticism of many aspects of the program last year including Dabo and plenty of comments that it all starts at the top. Anyone who comes here with any regularity saw posts saying Dabo’s culture and recruiting approach won’t work in the era of NIL, Coaches Caldwell and Elliott need to be fired and if Dabo doesn’t do that he’s not doing his job, he should have replaced DJ with Helms or TP last year, he refuses to adjust and use the portal and that is going to be the demise of Clemson football, developing and promoting coaches from within is not going to keep us on top, and so on. There were comments made that if Dabo didn’t adjust and do these things differently Clemson would not remain competitive and it would end up costing him his job - maybe not now but in the relatively near future.
He may have made it sound like it happened more than it did, but it happened and he is using it to make a point. Just like people say that Dabo has to be strong enough to not let this affect him, any fan that gets their feelings hurt by his statement needs to grow a little thicker skin as well. All most of us want, and I think this includes Dabo, is to see Clemson get back to the top of the mountain. Go Tigers!

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Jul 21, 2022, 9:48 AM

So why should he care what anyone thinks? Isn't he the same guy who once said as much, referring to Paul Finebaum ("not concerned with the opinions of people who don't matter")? The guy makes around 9mil per year to win games. He understands (or should) that comes with criticism when the team doesn't perform to expectations, and going in to last season Clemson was among the favorites to win a NC.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:52 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo motivates himself (and his team probably) with an ]

From the Dabo ESPN interview:

"I don't need anybody on a message board to tell me who DJ is," Swinney said. "Just ask [former athletic director] Terry Don Phillips. I won six games my second year as the head coach. There was a lot of people on the message boards wanting me gone. Then next year, we won the ACC for the first time in 20 years. We won 10 games for the first time in 20 years. Now, we win 10 games and they want to fire me.

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Jul 21, 2022, 8:48 AM

What about the tons of loyal fans on the boards. They got misrepresented. He might as well stated, ‘posters are a bunch of idiots’. Someone (maybe a coot hiding behind a handle) goes over the deep end, just live with it or execute the individual. Once he said he doesn’t read the boards (which belittled the only voice of some great fans). Let’s unite and get a lawyer and sue him for defamation of character. Just because he’s the best coach shouldn’t give him a license to attack some of his best fans. He owes us a public apology. Firing him or replacing Trevor has never been the collective jest of the boards.

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Here you go...


Jul 21, 2022, 8:52 AM

1) https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/re-all-of-you-tl-doubters-24501546


2) https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/if-our-next-5-seasons-are-on-par-with-this-season-30147110


Dates are not exactly what you are looking for, but it points to the fact that with a little research you can find almost any thought on here, no matter how unlikely you think it might be.


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Jul 21, 2022, 11:45 AM

I'm consistent on QB's. I was all in on DW4 and TL16 getting reps and playing early. And I'm all in on Cade Klubnik doing the same. Go Tigers!

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I think he's just trying to instill confidence in his QB


Jul 21, 2022, 8:59 AM

..if he needs to knock the fans a little to bring his point home a little, i don't have a problem with that. He probably did hear a fan say that in a email or someone showed him a message board where one of the trolls on here said it. No problem from me.

To be truthful our problems were catastrophic last year on offense and this offense will have to make a believer out of me through doing it on the field but i'm open to be swayed. IF they do turn it around 180 degress i'll be really interested to hear after the season just why and what the heck happened to it this past season. If it looks like a well oiled machined this year it will be a welcomed surprise but baffling as to what the heck happened the year before.

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Jul 22, 2022, 6:09 PM

What happened last season is very easy to point out! Clemson's football team had an unbelievable amount of injuries to the ENTIRE offense! No one seems to understand the impact of this. Let me break it down another way. Only 2 people who started against Georgia also started and played the majority of snaps, the remaining 12 games! TWO people! One of them happened to be an INJURED QB (DJ)! The other was Jordan McFadden the left Tackle! The skill positions were decimated with injuries and in some cases were starting a walk on who never plays until mop up time. Our 2 best WRs the last several games, were 2 true freshmen and a former walk on. I cannot remember a football team that offensively had the attrition that CU had last season, and I can sure say there is no team in College Football History that has lost 9 starters for a chunk of the season and still won their conference, let alone even made the playoffs. Clemson last year was within 2 plays of doing both! Georgia and NC ST! Yet Dabo heard all year through phone calls and media the outcry from the fans! He addressed this during the season here:

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football/update/impassioned-swinney-on-radio-i-can-guarantee-you-this-clemson-aint-going-anywhere-38972


He has a right to speak his mind he has earned it with 150 wins, 7 ACC Championships, and 2 National Championships over the last 14 years! Clemson will right the ship this season, and DJ will quiet the naysayers. Go Tigers! DJ Kool Aid Jim!

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Jul 21, 2022, 9:26 AM

Row86® said:

Did people want to bench Trevor in favor of DJ in 2020?
I don’t think so.

Did people want Dabo fired last year for having a 10-win season?
I really don’t think so.

It’s hard to find a flaw in Dabo (a lot of people sure try to). But I really wish he wouldn’t stand at a podium and make up stories to make Clemson fans seem like idiots.

Does that rub anyone else the wrong way?


When you win 2 natty’s you can trash your own fans. Just have to keep winning ‘em.

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No.


Jul 21, 2022, 9:48 AM

I worry about important things.

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yes .. im sure there are fans somewhere who wanted


Jul 21, 2022, 10:17 AM

both those things to happen.

especially DJ after the ND game and Dabo after sticking with DJ all last year and ending up with 3 losses

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:22 AM

Not sure where you were,
But I remember people wanting DJ to start over Trevor.
I remember a huge amount of abuse from “fans” for losing three games, not using the portal, not changing with the times, saying he was done, he promoted too much from within, etc - so yes what Dabo said was correct.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:23 AM

So where is the line drawn?

Talking about coaching decisions and implying that the coaches are not being savvy, unaware, biased, is on the edge of “he doesn’t know what he’s doing and we do “.

Not exactly “fire him” but it’s darn close.

You’re attempting to parse your way into a criticism and it’s a thin argument.

Just give it a rest.

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If Dabo said it you can believe it was said to him or about


Jul 21, 2022, 10:24 AM

If Dabo said it you can believe it was said to him or about him, Dabo has no reason to lie about that.

Their are people that say all kinds of things when they bet and their money is on the line. We are a spoiled fan base to winning a whole lot of games in great fashion since Dabo became coach.

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The amount of spin hes having to use to justify Big Cinco


Jul 21, 2022, 10:37 AM

Leads me to believe there has been little to no improvement. No need in criticizing fans to justify starting Cinco over Cade.

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Jul 21, 2022, 10:38 AM

I still remember David Hood telling him someone said our win over SC felt like a loss one year. That one fan became an example applied to everybody and before you know it he's talking about how he'll leave. Settle down dude.

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Jul 21, 2022, 11:12 AM

We haven’t seen his (or Neff’s, or Clement’s) inbox or vm’s so we don’t know what type of idiocy he is exposed to…

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Neither have they....


Jul 21, 2022, 12:06 PM

Thats what assistants are for.

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I don't think he makes stuff up. Does it sound like


Jul 21, 2022, 11:20 AM

SOME folks on here to say:

1. DJ looks solid and TL is struggling a bit - maybe Dabo should sit TL for a while and let DJ continue with his hot hand . . . .


I might vaguely remembering seeing this - but it 100% it sounds like the buffoonery on here - and if I'm Dabo trying to make a point about how absolute goofy it is that every imbecile has a microphone now (social media) - I'd bring it up.



2. Dabo has lost his edge, the game has passed him by because he is stubborn & won't NIL, portal, etc - maybe we would be better with someone who isn't so stuck in the walk-on mentality.

You better believe this is 100% stuff I have read on here - don't know if it was serious or a troll or what - but it has definitely been thrown out in here.

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Re: I don't think he makes stuff up. Does it sound like


Jul 21, 2022, 11:56 AM

Don’t forget all the noise about promoting from within instead of hiring a nationally known coordinator or two. And the predictions that the results of those decisions will surely bring about his demise as well as that of Clemson football as we know it.

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HINT: Paul Finebaum


Jul 21, 2022, 2:18 PM

Maybe the coach listens to Paul(?)

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It’s part of Dabo’s obvious victim mentality.


Jul 22, 2022, 11:30 AM

You can very plainly observe it in action when he is complaining about the press, the questions he has to answer, everybody’s out to get little ole Clemson, etc. He does this all the time. The example you posted fits this perfectly.

The guy has a serious persecution complex. Maybe the worst part of it is that he is passing it on to all of these players.

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It’s because of his ego getting too big


Jul 22, 2022, 11:37 AM

Little ole Clemson should NEVER question anything he does

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Jul 22, 2022, 6:12 PM

I wondered the same thing when he said ppl wanted Trevor benched for DJ. I’ve never heard anyone say anything in regards to Trevor’s playing time except when everyone wanted him to start over Kelly Bryant

I think he really just tries to give over exaggerated examples of scenarios to emphasize that he doesn’t give a $hit what people think now that he’s won natties lol

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Jul 26, 2022, 1:55 PM

Nope! I find him entertaining and have never heard him be offensive. Would you prefer and old sourpuss? Ohhhhhhhhh, I"ll bet your one of dem "Columbia #####! :o)

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At some point in time he needs to be above


Jul 26, 2022, 3:37 PM

saying these things. He doesn't have to defend himself and act like he is an outsider that Clemson people constantly questions. Stop whining about people whining.The old saying "methinks the dust complain too much" apples here.

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The people who griped about a 10-win season


Jul 26, 2022, 3:52 PM

were the bandwagoneers and selfish people who couldn't do any better, but could do worse.

Was I happy with the performance of last year's team? Not really. Did I want the backup QB to get a chance? Yes. Did he perform any better? No. Do I make the coaching decisions? NOPE.

Will I always be a Clemson fan? ABSOLUTELY. I have DEFINITELY lived through worse seasons.

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‘cause we consists of many mouth breathers?***


Jul 26, 2022, 4:14 PM



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Most of you have never experienced a losing season or a


Jul 26, 2022, 4:58 PM

horrible Clemson coach?

Get some perspective will ya

ALL IN GO TIGERS

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