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Clemson Sports Icon [56685]
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Does SMU even
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:31 PM
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Add any value to our conference? What was the point of the ACC inviting them?
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Orange Blooded [2530]
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Re: Does SMU even
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:33 PM
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I really believe they are an up and coming program. They certainly have the funding to again become relevant.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56685]
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The ACC shouldve gone after
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:35 PM
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Utah and West Virginia instead of cal and Stanford.
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Gridiron Giant [15445]
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What would West Virgina add***
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Clemson Sports Icon [56685]
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They used to be a powerhouse in basketball
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:53 PM
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Until most recently.
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Re: What would West Virgina add***
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:33 PM
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Your memory is short if you don't remember what happen the last W V played us, it was one of the ugliest butt whippings we've ever had!!!
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Gridiron Giant [16007]
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Re: What would West Virgina add***
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Jul 1, 2024, 4:03 PM
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Agreed. They still talk about that one the way we still talk about beating Bama almost 6 years ago now. Neither has done much sense.
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Paw Warrior [4973]
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Re: The ACC shouldve gone after
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Jul 1, 2024, 1:57 PM
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I never understood why a lot of fans wanted those hillbillies in our conference.
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Orange Immortal [62878]
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Re: The ACC shouldve gone after
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:31 PM
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I understand that being what you would wish for Ga, but Utah and West Virginia probably would have turned an invite to the ACC down, I believe...
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Clemson Sports Icon [56685]
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We never will know because
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:32 PM
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The ACC waited until it was too late to get into the realignment game.
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Orange Immortal [62878]
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Re: We never will know because
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:34 PM
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Bingo!!!
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Varsity [206]
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Day late and a dollar short -- the story of the ACC
Jul 1, 2024, 3:35 PM
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Poorest run college conference twenty years and running.
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Gridiron Giant [16007]
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Re: The ACC shouldve gone after
Jul 1, 2024, 4:09 PM
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Utah was turning their nose up at the Big 12 and saying they didn't want to be in a truck stop conference until they found out they were being lied to and there was no PAC TV deal so that new 31.7 million Big 12 contract looked pretty good to them. Could have made more in the ACC with its network but Phillips was dragging his a** and watched everyone else pick the best brands.
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Game Changer [1837]
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Yes, they add far more value...
Jul 5, 2024, 3:52 PM
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than Cal or Stanford as both are dead weight. SMU may prove to be a wise "investment" but currently it's an addition that's nothing to brag about publicly-
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Campus Hero [13659]
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Re: Does SMU even
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:39 PM
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A big Endowment Fund. They were one of the top investers into their football program in 2023. They will likely invest more than Duke, WF, Cuse, and BC does into their programs. But its definitely not a game I would pencil in as a must see at SMU.
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Orange Phenom [14501]
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I thought so too but the I looked it up and they're not as well endowed as we're
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Jul 1, 2024, 1:45 PM
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Led to believe. Their endowment is only about 2 billion. This is much larger than ours but a pittance compared to UNC($5B), UVA($8B), and Duke($11B).
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Orange Blooded [2530]
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Re: I thought so too but the I looked it up and they're not as well endowed as we're
Jul 1, 2024, 2:43 PM
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Separate from traditional endowments: It’s the deep pocket boosters and their willingness to fund NIL that pushes SMU forward.
I haven’t looked at their schedule, but it would not surprise me to see them quickly wedge in as a mid tier ACC team.
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One of my sisters graduated from SMU so now we both can chant ACC ACC!
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Jul 1, 2024, 12:59 PM
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Also it gives us a foothold into Texas recruiting and let’s face it - there wasn’t much else for the conference to choose from.
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Orange Immortal [62878]
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Re: One of my sisters graduated from SMU so now we both can chant ACC ACC!
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:37 PM
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We were already recruiting parts of Texass...
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Orange Phenom [14501]
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It's another vote against dissolving the GOR period full stop
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Jul 1, 2024, 1:11 PM
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The conference brought in three more no votes to make it materially more difficult to reach the voting threshold.
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Re: It's another vote against dissolving the GOR period full stop
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Jul 1, 2024, 1:53 PM
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They shouldn’t count because they weren’t apart of the GOR.
I know they count in the number of schools but not original members when deal was supposedly struck.
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Orange Immortal [62878]
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Re: It's another vote against dissolving the GOR period full stop
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:42 PM
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My question is, where is the money coming from that the ACC plans to pay Cal, SMU and Stanford with when ESECPN won't redo the ACC GOR's contract. If they get paid that means, there is even less money for Clemson and FSU....
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Gridiron Giant [16007]
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Re: Does SMU even
Jul 1, 2024, 1:43 PM
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I really hope SMU (Group of Five team removed 6 months) comes in and goes to the ACC Championship game in their first season. Embarrassing the heck out of this league.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56685]
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Re: Does SMU even
Jul 1, 2024, 10:01 PM
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You rather have them win an ACC championship and not Clemson?
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Ask again in 5 years.***
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Orange Immortal [62878]
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Re: Does SMU even
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:27 PM
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The ACC is half full of teams just like SMU, so I can't see kicking on them unless you kick the rest of the scrubs!!!
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Re: Does SMU even
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Jul 1, 2024, 2:41 PM
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The Dallas TV market, and an very wealthy almuni base can now legally pay the payers.
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If either of those mattered now they wouldn't have had to take the such a crap
Jul 1, 2024, 4:12 PM
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deal to join this crappy conference
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Desperation!***
Jul 1, 2024, 3:29 PM
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they were elite when they were cheating in the 80s.. i'd imagine they'll get
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Jul 1, 2024, 3:51 PM
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back to being good since its legal.
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Dynasty Maker [3267]
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I could be wrong...
Jul 1, 2024, 4:08 PM
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But SMU from a money standpoint might be investing as much into athletics as any school in the ACC. If they go financially "all-in", they'll be a football powerhouse in the ACC.
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Freshman [10]
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Re: I could be wrong...
Jul 2, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Since announcing move to ACC, SMU raised $159M. Yesterday, when SMU actually became one of the newest members of ACC, they raised another $125M. So don't get too cocky. There's a reason Texas didn't want SMU back in the Big12.
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Freshman [10]
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Re: I could be wrong...
Jul 2, 2024, 4:10 PM
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How many ACC teams have been ranked higher than SMU over the last 5 years? Clemson and FSU no doubt, NC State and VT probably, Louisville and North Carolina maybe... That's about it.
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Got no problem with SMU
Jul 5, 2024, 1:44 PM
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I did, however, hope that adding teams would be the catalyst to getting out of the bad media right deal.
Not too thrilled about having California teams in the ACC, but SMU, yes, welcome. Come to Clemson, you'll be treated well.
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Well SMU's highest ranking in the last 5 years was 15th on 11/27/2019 so....
Jul 5, 2024, 2:10 PM
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In the ACC, teams that have ranked 15th or higher in the last 5 years, you have:
Clemson (2023)
FSU (2023)
UNC (2023)
Louisville (2023)
NCSU (2022)
Miami (2022)
Wake Forest (2022)
Syracuse (2022)
Pitt (2021)
Virginia Tech (2021)
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Re: Does SMU even
Jul 5, 2024, 1:47 PM
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In pay to play, watch out for SMU.
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