Re: TNET: Tight ends says the middle of the field is wide open and being used in new offense

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Mar 31, 2023, 12:09 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Tight ends says the middle of the field is wide open and being used in new offense ]

I didn’t really read the article, but that would be a true football fans dream.

However, all this hype and the comments and complaining about last years OC or somewhat baffling. Davis Allen had 39 catches for 443 yards and Briningstool 25 receptions for 285 yards. Between them they had 9 TDS.

That’s pretty decent among power 5 schools and one major independent. Notre Dames Michael Mayer who flopped mostly at the combine had 67 catches and 809 yards and 9 TDs. Very good. But their second TE had all of 3 catches, not so very good and Mayer is moving on up like George Jefferson.

My true favorite national TE the past two years was Bowers at Georgia who because the PAC whatever reeks so badly now that the dogs were able to lure him away from a good TE school like Stanford and Bowere was one of the top reasons that Georgia is 2-0 in the last two championships. Stanford may crush Georgia academics wise, most schools boys aren’t scholars and could care less that if injured and graduating from Stanford they are almost 100% guaranteed to earn several times more than a Georgia grad would make. Course, some college athletes have a hard time keeping jobs as yard or pool boys when they can no longer play, so Bowers may not have been able to cut it academically at a real school where players attend class occasionally
Bowers is maybe not a true blue Te and maybe more of just a big WR, but he’s also pretty much unstoppable with 63 catches for over 900 yards.
Their other TE is much more impressive physically and looks to be a top 5 selection in the next draft mostly based on potential and not production which is really the way it should be. Numbers mean little from one level to the next generally and if push comes to shove I can back up my talk with examples
Washington of the Darnell variety is huge at 6-8; 280 or close to that.
The third guy was a guy that Dabo wanted rather badly in Oscar Delp and there wasn’t much opportunity for the true freshman who only had 5 catches his first season.
Stinking Georgia was super loaded with former 5 star if you believe some of those ratings, Aric Gilbert the portal guy from LSU. He had an incredible true freshman year for tigers and was mostly ignored at Georgia and has already moved on, I believe. He may have issues somewhere but he’s also got talent.

I could go on and on because TE is my favorite position in my favorite sport, but the newest TE school as far as production is Iowa and famous now mostly for SF’s fantastic George Kittle.
They had two TEs last season that were only slightly better production wise than Clemson’s

So, as usual I’m not sure I get the complaints from this bunch. The biggest thing was not winning every game and yes, that’s disappointing. But, as I’ve so brilliantly pointed out it’s probably not because of TE play.
Only Georgia and maybe Iowa were more fruitful than Clemson’s Allen and Briningstool. I deal in facts mostly and it’s hard to argue with numbers here.
Right now, before Riley, Clemson has been one of the top TE schools in the nation and I don’t know how that could be an argument, but somehow I feel one will come.

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My area of expertise? I played TE at small school level as a walk-on and it was somewhat brief as I got my lady friend preg-o and had two mouths to feed. I won’t bore anyone with more details, but I was a very late bloomer and some that knew me say they wish I could have stuck it out.
That child has 3 kids now and I’m still with mother to this day through thick and thin.

At TCU, Riley had Texas transfer Jared Wiley who had 24 catches last year. That’s not phenomenal, but he was 6-7 and played QB at Temple High school which is the highest class in Texas. I have seen Wiley up close but can’t confirm his true height. He wasn’t highly recruited, but as might be assumed a former QB he is pretty athletic. He’s not super fast, but fast enough and I don’t remember a dropped ball while at Texas or TCU.
I am glued to Texas games even though I didn’t graduate there and record and watch film and even break it down if time. He transferred to the land of the frogs because new coach Sark didn’t recruit him and there were younger, more talented TEs coming up such as former 5star recruit Ja’Tavion Sanders from Denton Texas and Ryan High school.
Dabo is no stranger to the area since y’all signed JC Chalk from Argyle a while back and while Chalk was never a big star, he was a solid contributor for good Clemson teams plus he was the grandson of former Bama coach Gene Stallings who won a national title in 1992 over Miami. I actually didn’t hate bama so much back then and Miami was more fun to dislike, plus I had connections with Stallings because of his daughter.

Riley didn’t use Wiley that much, but Wiley did the right thing moving on because Texas TE Sanders caught 54 passes this past year and Wiley would have been used much less which could have embarrassed him because he only caught 9 passes his last year in Austin

I very much favor an OC that uses a TE and hopefully Riley really is that because I will always believe that a really good TE is almost unstoppable and a great one is a true game breaker.
If a defense has to double a TE that obviously increases opportunities for the smaller and usually much faster WRs especially the smaller quicker guys like a Hunter Renfrow.

All the TE lovers out there have a great night.

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TNET: Tight ends says the middle of the field is wide open and being used in new offense