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Suppose somebody had roughly $50k and wanted a fast car with modern
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Suppose somebody had roughly $50k and wanted a fast car with modern

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May 13, 2025, 8:12 AM
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technology in it. What type of car would one buy?

Note to Obed, please do not go find a specific car that I could go pick up tomorrow. I'm just trying to ask to have a little fun.

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An EV.

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May 13, 2025, 8:17 AM
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They're terrifically fast and fun, but I don't know if I'd call them exciting because you don't have the engine noise.

I bet you could find a used Kia Stinger GT2. Or this:

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WZ1DB2G0XPW056467

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drunk at the putt putt.


I thought those were far more expensive.***

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May 13, 2025, 8:31 AM
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For EVs, look for used.

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May 13, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Buying new you might as well be setting a pile of cash on fire, but something with 20k-40k is a solid move. And you can find the faster models to be much more affordable.

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drunk at the putt putt.


I meant the Supra, I thought those were Corvette prices.***

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May 13, 2025, 8:49 AM
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No, also cheap used, and the new Nissan Z is even cheaper***


May 13, 2025, 11:43 AM
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Model S Plaid 0-60 in 2 seconds

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May 13, 2025, 8:21 AM
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https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=untrackedExternal_false_0&distance=100&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&zip=29627&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d2039&shopByTypes=MIX&isDeliveryEnabled=true#listing=414859674/NONE/NATIONWIDE_SHIPPING

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I know those have great acceleration. I never look for/hear

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May 13, 2025, 8:32 AM
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much about how they handle.

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I took Vehicle Dynamics in college

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May 13, 2025, 8:44 AM
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I didn't learn anything, but I did take the class.

But for your question, google AI says:

The Tesla Model S Plaid is known for its incredible acceleration and high-speed stability, but its handling isn't necessarily as rewarding as a dedicated sports car, especially at the limit. However, it's surprisingly capable and well-behaved on the road, delivering a smooth and predictable experience.

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I took Structural Dynamics in college

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May 13, 2025, 8:49 AM
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I didn't learn anything useful. I also took some auto mechanics classes because I wanted to be a better race car driver. If you suck you suck. My racing career was short.

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Did I tell you my neighbor is a full-time professional

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May 13, 2025, 9:01 AM
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race car driver?

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I hear you can get a good deal on a model S plaid these days

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May 13, 2025, 8:21 AM
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Assuming 0-60 in 2.1 seconds is fast enough for you

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My polestar is the single motor, base model.

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May 13, 2025, 8:24 AM
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And the torque still makes the 5yo squeal. Outside of a motorcycle, ain't no better ratio of $$$ to acceleration than an EV.

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drunk at the putt putt.


Corvette

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May 13, 2025, 8:51 AM
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test of time

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Today I learned if I were being terribly irresponsible I could actaully pay

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May 13, 2025, 8:57 AM
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cash for a C5.

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Mustang GT starts around $48k.

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May 13, 2025, 8:55 AM
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Most cars have the same kinda tech anymore.

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Interesting detail about the Ecoboost vs GT.

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May 13, 2025, 9:45 AM
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The Mustang GT with the performance exhaust system goes 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds while the EcoBoost hits 60 mph in 4.5 seconds.

Obviously we're comparing a twin turbo 4 cylinder to a naturally aspirated V8 and the Ecoboost is automatic only, but that's a negligible performance difference. 315 hp and 350 lb/ft of torque is really impressive from a 2.3 liter engine.

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I'm guessing the Coyote walks the EB from 60 on.***


May 13, 2025, 12:30 PM
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Modern like "self-driving" or modern like "auto reverse cassette"?

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May 13, 2025, 8:59 AM
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Big age range on the Tnets...

I would buy used. Audi E-tron GT. Fast, modern, makes Tesla's look like the generic brand EV. You can talk them down $5k on this guy.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePageModel&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d3115&zip=29486#listing=411829579/NONE/STORE_TRANSFER

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That is a very sexy car.***

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May 13, 2025, 9:01 AM
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drunk at the putt putt.


Doesn't have to drive itself but must have at least the connectivity of

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May 13, 2025, 9:02 AM [ in reply to Modern like "self-driving" or modern like "auto reverse cassette"? ]
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my truck.

I do like that Audi, even if it has too many doors.

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Your YouTube channel must be taking off

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May 13, 2025, 9:04 AM
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Not quite yes, but honestly getting close to something.

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May 13, 2025, 9:09 AM
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708 subscribers and 2411 qualified watch hours in the past 365. If I can get to 3000 watch ours in the last 365 I can create memberships and do lives for super chats and such. I've been too lazy since the cat died and I did that marked. I need to get back out and make more content.

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Just trying to make lemonade here...

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May 13, 2025, 9:11 AM
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But this seems like a really good opportunity for a video on DIY cat coffins.

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drunk at the putt putt.


He was cremated.***

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May 13, 2025, 9:17 AM
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I'm not saying you need the actual cat.

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May 13, 2025, 9:27 AM
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But come on. You want to talk about a niche video that would show up at the top of search feeds and potentially go viral because it's building cat coffins?

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drunk at the putt putt.


Actually, you are probably quite correct in that assessment.

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May 13, 2025, 9:44 AM
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I just did a quick search on YouTube for 'build pet coffins' and it returned a few videos, so someone is watching them.

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I built a coffin for a duckling in my childhood.

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May 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
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Rickety old thing. Too bad I didnt have YouTube.

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A good number of results but not a ton of views. Don't mean I won't do it

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May 13, 2025, 11:31 AM [ in reply to I'm not saying you need the actual cat. ]
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someday.

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All right. Hear me out. "Cat Cannon."


May 13, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Like they did with Hunter Thompson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKrc30rZeM

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drunk at the putt putt.


2025 Camry XSE AWD fully loaded may work. Fast? meh.

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May 13, 2025, 9:15 AM
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Plenty of tech. Get one brand new, fully loaded for like $40K. 513 miles on a $25 tank of gas. 230hp, awd is nice. The handling is on par with a sports car. I can drive it with a pointer finger at 100mph. Leather(ish) seats, heated and cooled. Android Auto. Also has assisted driving where it will start braking early for slower traffic ahead or cars slowing down, often seeing them long before you notice. This is a feature I have learned to appreciate. Backup cam had the overhead option to see parking space markers, etc. Cross traffic detection is great, even when parked between two massive jacked up $100K pickups with massive tires and LED lights, etc. it will detect cars before you can even see them on the backup cam.

The CVT is a gamechanger as well. It makes that 225hp feeel like a lot more. No gears, no overdrive, just steady, consistent acceleration from 0-80mph. Feels much like an electric car in that sense. It will go 20-40, 40-60, 60-80 with the same acceleration, no drop off in power.

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Please go drive the tail of the dragon as fast as you can and report back or


May 13, 2025, 9:20 AM
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pick me up on the way. I'll buy gas and lunch.

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It handles excellent on curves, better than my 1994 Camaro Z28.

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May 13, 2025, 9:29 AM
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Where it misses is on power though. Would be interesting to test it against the old Z28. 275hp vs 225, Camaro would have better acceleration, but the Camry would perform better on the curves.

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with stabilizer bar, sport-tuned shock absorbers and springs, and front strut tower bracing

I raced a porsche once in the mountains once. Thing would leave me in the curves, but I'd catch right back up with just a few straight stretches.

My old Camaro had my car beat in acceleration, no doubt. BUT....on curves, AND at high speed, my Camry is much better. Heck, the SCHP bought a bunch of Camaros the year I got mine, only to sell them because the aerodynamics were crap and a patrolman died in a pursuit in one. The tended to "float" above 80-85mph and I think Chevy redesigned the front end like a year later to fix this.

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gtfo with your reasonable, adult answer.***

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May 13, 2025, 9:25 AM [ in reply to 2025 Camry XSE AWD fully loaded may work. Fast? meh. ]
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drunk at the putt putt.


Concur

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May 13, 2025, 9:29 AM
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This is one of the worst things I have ever read. In fact, it was so bad, I didn't even read it through.

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Out at Camry and double out at praising a CVT***

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May 13, 2025, 9:34 AM
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LOVE the CVT. Of course the jury is out on it lasting, but they have it under


May 13, 2025, 9:41 AM
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the 100K warranty, so I'm fine giving it a shot.

It passes better on two-lane roads than a 1994 Camaro Z28 with 50 more hp. No passing gear makes all the difference.

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A) no one prefers CVTs to conventional automatics, no one.

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May 13, 2025, 11:41 AM
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B) A 1994 Camaro is not the baseline for anything resembling sporty.

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"The handling is on par with a sports car."

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May 13, 2025, 11:36 AM [ in reply to 2025 Camry XSE AWD fully loaded may work. Fast? meh. ]
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Ho-kay.

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After reding the replies and the little I know about Tiggity, I think

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May 13, 2025, 11:38 AM
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he may need to go for a ride with a crazy person, that knows what they are doing, in fast car.

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Re: After reding the replies and the little I know about Tiggity, I think


May 13, 2025, 11:41 AM
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drunk at the putt putt.


He said "who knows what he is doing"

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May 13, 2025, 11:45 AM
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Too soon?

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Right on time.***

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May 13, 2025, 12:20 PM
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"The handling is on par with a late 80's sports car."***

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May 13, 2025, 12:07 PM [ in reply to "The handling is on par with a sports car." ]
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My Sprinter van is a real rocketship.

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May 13, 2025, 12:31 PM
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It will beat my old 1987 GTi 16 valve off the line to 50.

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There are some really good resto mods out there in which

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May 13, 2025, 9:31 AM
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you can get like a older Challenger, Nova...something like that and they have added all the power steering, abs breaks, up to date gauges, etc.. They come in ALL price ranges too.


https://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/restomods?max_price=53500&min_price=19500

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Re: Suppose somebody had roughly $50k and wanted a fast car with modern

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May 13, 2025, 9:35 AM
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New Civic Type R
Newish Mustang GT
Used Mustang GT350

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Re: Suppose somebody had roughly $50k and wanted a fast car with modern

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May 13, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Porsche Cayman

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Re: Suppose somebody had roughly $50k and wanted a fast car with modern

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May 13, 2025, 9:56 AM
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Get a couple year old C43

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Bruh, Road and Track's list...


May 13, 2025, 12:05 PM
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/g6783/best-performance-cars-for-less-than-50000/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=dda_ga_rt_md_bm_prog_org_us_g6783&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21290595574&gbraid=0AAAAACZRB93UTjcl8V1XvYcxyZEtgIqGb&gclid=CjwKCAjw24vBBhABEiwANFG7y5sGkOHEoTS36KLUMc6ublWj2DxwwSEIm8c9mmVD0VxhTnFsGIPP0BoCgpUQAvD_BwE

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That is nice that they compiled such a list, but

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May 13, 2025, 12:19 PM
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most I don't like too much.

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If you're going to drop $50k on a car.


May 13, 2025, 12:22 PM
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Why in the world would you get a hot hatch.

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drunk at the putt putt.


To put one of those stupid exhausts on it?

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May 13, 2025, 12:24 PM
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I dun know.

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