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Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
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May 15, 2023, 10:28 PM
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This is a report from an FSU web journalist who is at Amelia Island at the hotel. He is a respected journalist (used to be sports editor for the Tallahassee newspaper). He's not just a click bait blogger.
Interesting observations from his perspective. I'll give you two quick tidbits and then you can watch the entire thing.
1. Sure sounds like something is up. It was anything but "business as usual" this afternoon.
2. Speculation at the site of the conference is ND is the 8th team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi0gY73PuP8
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
May 15, 2023, 10:49 PM
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I keep seeing ND mentioned as the 8th but help me understand why that makes sense? They become homeless if there’s a breakup, right? The only conference left to take them in all sports but football is the Big12. SEC surely isn’t giving them that option. I can’t see the B1G doing it either. What would be ND’s motivation for breaking up the conference?
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
May 15, 2023, 10:51 PM
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With 12 team playoff they will always get in playoffs
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
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May 15, 2023, 10:54 PM
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Sure, but they have 12 other sports who need teams to play. Football stands own it’s own but Men’s basketball needs a conference.
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depends on who will play them in the future
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May 15, 2023, 11:01 PM
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to give them enough power rankings by the selection committee. If the B1G/SEC and schools like Clemson, FSu etc refuse to play them.... the service academies, stanford, etc aren't gonna build that resume. interesting times indeed.
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B1G full member
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May 15, 2023, 10:59 PM
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They’ve always been a B1G school at their core. They won’t be able to put a proper schedule together as an independent that could be arguably tough enough and simultaneously easy enough for a 12-team playoff. Cant play Navy and BYU with 2 big games a year and seem competitive with their penchant for crumbling in the big bowl games.
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Re: B1G full member
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May 15, 2023, 11:05 PM
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I think that could make sense. They can’t be a top 4 seed without a conference so maybe they’re finally seeing the end is near as an independent. Surely that B1G contract only gets B1gger with them as a full member.
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They unquestionably add value
May 15, 2023, 11:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s as much as they think but it’s probably more than any other team that would be going through “free agency”.
UNC might be next closest due to their national brand and illicit sustained success.
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Southeastern my question is
May 15, 2023, 11:08 PM
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Does ND even have a vote? Since they are not a member in football, and football is driving the boat, does ND even have a vote?
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Re: Southeastern my question is
May 15, 2023, 11:21 PM
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They are a full voting member. If they end up being the 8th vote, then we’ll all thank Swofford. Otherwise, I’m not sure what sense it makes to have them as a full voting member!!
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Re: Southeastern my question is
May 16, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Ni, they are not a full voting member. That's simply incorrect. People keep saying that, but without actual evidence.
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Re: Southeastern my question is
May 17, 2023, 11:01 PM
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Here is some evidence sort of ….
There is no language in the ACC’s bylaws and constitution covering dissolution of the conference, other than a standard boilerplate clause about the distribution of property. The North Carolina law governing the dissolution of nonprofits would theoretically apply, requiring only a majority of voting members to agree to it. (Notre Dame, for some reason, gets a full vote and not 20 percent of a vote, even though it only gets a one-fifth share of revenue. That has never been sufficiently explained.)
https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article263245513.html
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
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May 16, 2023, 7:11 AM
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I believe the only major reason ND would want out of the contract is that it gives them the ability to join the Big 10. The ACC GOR prohibits Notre Dame from joining any conference but the ACC should they decide against being independent in foitball. I just read an article that said Notre Dame would sacrifice at least 25 million/year by not joining the Big, even with a much better contract with NBC than the current one. If it the millions were in the single digits they probably wouldn't care but this amount of money seems to much for them to leave on the table.
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Because it makes perfect sense.
May 16, 2023, 10:03 AM
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I predicted SEC or BIG two weeks ago, I thought it was the SEShe. The BiG is even better especially when the top all-time team in America is joining with you. The SEShe is trash.
Any other questions?
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Re: Because it makes perfect sense.
May 18, 2023, 5:57 AM
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ND and FSU. That leaves FSU on an island. Hopefully FSU will lobby for some southern “company”. Clemson and GT would work nicely. Clemson, GT, UNC, and UVA works too!
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Notre Dame and Michigan are next to each other
May 17, 2023, 4:58 PM
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like Clemson and Georgia
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also Nebraska and Notre Dame
also SoCal and Notre Dame
also UCLA and Notre Dame
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
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May 15, 2023, 11:56 PM
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Ha Ha Ha, ole Neff working on a sly move under cover to keep Clemson on top for the big money within college sports!!!! Show how big your nuts are Neff!!!!
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Re: Report from on the ground at Amelia Island.
May 16, 2023, 12:35 AM
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Of the 8 schools, ND is the most coveted by other conferences. They don't have to worry about a new home.
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Re: Well, his nuts have been big enough to
May 18, 2023, 5:54 AM
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Re: Brownell- he’s just trying to appease the Judge.
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ND isnt a league member in football, so would they count?
May 16, 2023, 8:32 AM
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Seems counter-intuitive considering this entire thing is about football.
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Even if their vote counted as a partial they would serve as
May 16, 2023, 9:25 AM
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a tie-breaker of 7-7.
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Re: Even if their vote counted as a partial they would serve as
May 16, 2023, 9:43 AM
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No, it wouldn't.
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Re: Even if their vote counted as a partial they would serve as
May 16, 2023, 10:28 AM
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The maths say different. 7 + any amount > 7.
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Great “watch”…thanks for posting…
May 16, 2023, 9:01 AM
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…I have a dinner bet with a friend on the dissolution of the ACC by EOY.
This report gives me confidence that I will be having a nice dinner on my buddy right after Christmas.
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Re: Great “watch”…thanks for posting…
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May 16, 2023, 9:40 AM
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May be by the end of the week it sounds like
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