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Gridiron Giant [15458]
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Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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down our 3 best tackles (losing 3rd best on the first snap), a starting left guard and another quality backup on the offensive line.
Then also being down the leading tackler on Def, then lose his replacement for the 2nd half.
If we get back 2 of the 4 Offensive lineman, Wade Woodazz, Sammy Brown, Tyler Brown & Demonte Capehardt and we're going to look MUCH better.
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Campus Hero [14013]
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nice try but rational thought doesn't work here***
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Re: nice try but rational thought doesn't work here***
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Way to much common sense for a GameDay thread
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Nov 16, 2024, 4:54 PM
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You're supposed to say things like Dabo should retire; worst coached team in the Power 4; and if we'd brought in a 3rd string portal player we'd be undefeated.
To your point, continuity is everything on the OL. We were down 4 of our top 10 guys today with 4 playing out of position.
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Re: Way to much common sense for a GameDay thread
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Good thoughts!
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Re: Way to much common sense for a GameDay thread
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Nov 16, 2024, 8:54 PM
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And everyone on the OLine except the center had to move to a different position after the first play of the game.
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Ring of Honor [22819]
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Re: Way to much common sense for a GameDay thread
Nov 17, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Yea but it's really hard to cry about milk that another coach spilled before leaving Clemson. IMO that would be like crying over all the recruits that we lost when Tommy Bowden was let go or resigned/quit. I'm pretty sure if my memory serves me well, the 12 recruits that we lost in that HC shuffle were 12 highly recruited guys, but we couldn't bank on what we didn't have, Dabo could only go forward with what he did keep together as we've done from losing out on O lineman that our prior OL coach lost to other teams...
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The "Pro-Portal" guys would have to explain to me how we could have gotten
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Nov 17, 2024, 12:11 PM
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quality players from the portal who would have been willing to sit on the bench and come in only now when our front line guys are injured. Somehow, I just don't think the Portal works that way.
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Varsity [104]
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With Dabo's well known TP and NIL stance
Nov 17, 2024, 4:15 PM
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We're not just whiffing on portal guys. We're losing valuable recruits, too.
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Paw Warrior [4668]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 4:55 PM
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So...were our other 3 running backs injured as well? I don't understand keeping Mafah in all day when he looks bothered by something. Regardless if he is injured or not, do we not rotate any of our running backs anymore? Are they that bad?
Besides the point, I just can't buy the injury excuse for how bad the offense has been. 12 yards in a quarter is inexcusable. I don't care if we took Furman's roster, you can't be that inept on offense when you still have your starting QB and RB and TE and WR's. And just FYI, we weren't playing UGA today either.
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:02 PM
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It doesn't matter if you buy it or not. It's true. Our offensive line isn't that great to begin with, and when they're down that many players it's going to look bad.
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Paw Warrior [4668]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:05 PM
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Yeah, they're injured. But it shouldn't hinder us this bad to the point we couldn't do anything against Pitt. I think you're failing to realize what I'm saying. I'm not expecting us to throw up 4 TD's in a quarter of play. But the offense doing absolutely NOTHING? C'mon now...
It's a weak argument considering multiple games now it hasn't stopped other teams having a make-shift O-Line with backup QB's, etc. still having their way with our defense. Why should a couple O-line guys being injured for us automatically make our offense do nearly nothing for almost an entire half?
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Paw Warrior [4843]
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It is simple math
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Nov 16, 2024, 7:02 PM
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Pitt put up to 7+ players in the box to sell out on the run. When we are down 3 OL, that will absolutely make it difficult to run.
I will agree to the extent that we clearly did not make any adjustments in the 2H. The absolute ineptitude was befuddling.
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Rival Killer [2822]
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Re: It is simple math
Nov 17, 2024, 10:52 AM
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Something no one has brought up. In the last 5 years, Pitt has the most sacks of ANY team in the NCAA. Couple that with an oline that's been reorganized, yeah, I can understand Some of the issues on offense. Did anyone see the UGA/tenn game? UGA reworked and kept tenn scoreless in the second half.
We have, however, gone backwards, offensively. The complete implosion vs louis-ville was mind boggling, considering they just lost to Stanford. I believe our main issue, though, is not the online. Not QB play. Not the rb room and who is or isn't hurt or who did or didn't play. It's our friggin defense. It's a huge relief that we have so much talent, because schematically, we suck. Our D needs to get much better or Wes needs to go somewhere else
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Rival Killer [2822]
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Re: It is simple math
Nov 17, 2024, 10:54 AM
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To add.... Why not hire the DC from Pitt?
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Re: It is simple math
Nov 17, 2024, 2:39 PM
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Pitt made adjustments at half time. I'm not sure we did. Running Maffah more would be considered a bad adjustment. Not using other, healthy RBs was a bad decision. Coaching. I hope Dabo is asking these questions of coaching staff.
And surely there are question to be asked of Wes. I don't think we put enough pressure on Pitt QB. We let him escape the pocket way too many times. Why?
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Rival Killer [2912]
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Paw Warrior [4668]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 16, 2024, 6:58 PM
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No you.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 10:51 AM
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Cry more 🤣
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Gridiron Giant [15458]
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Didn't look bothered to me
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Nov 16, 2024, 6:49 PM
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He had 17 carries, and Pitt was selling out to stop the run. Honestly, he had a light day. I wouldn't trade any of his carries for anyone else on the time.
Most this time, the experts on here are screaming to play your best game every snap.
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Ring of Honor [22335]
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Only when we're up 40***
Nov 16, 2024, 8:52 PM
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Campus Hero [14013]
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you're absolutely right! You DON'T understand!
Nov 17, 2024, 12:38 PM
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because 1) you lack football strategy knowledge and 2) you have no situational awareness.
What's your coaching record? How many years? Prove me wrong?
Did you ever think that the other backs can't pass block The O-line was weakened and they were loading the box? They were daring us to pass and we met the challenge but close!
geez!
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Re: you're absolutely right! You DON'T understand!
Nov 17, 2024, 1:05 PM
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Pretty sure it was this. The other guys don't pass block as well as Mafah. With the depleted line, and Pitt's sellout in the box, running was going to be a slog. Having Mafah in there to chip a blitzer was helpful even though his runs were just to keep Pitt honest.
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 3:49 PM
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I’d say Mafah was in for the blocking support more that his ability to run. I would imagine the other RBs are not nearly as good at picking up the blitz.
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Associate AD [1074]
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No doubt. Getting Leigh and tate back will
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Nov 16, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Be huge. I hope mickens is ok too. He was really playing well.
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Game Changer [1998]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:04 PM
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Our best tackle played the entire game. Blake Miller is far and away not just our best tackle, but our best OL period.
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Associate AD [1074]
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Yeah but parks was getting abused at right
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:06 PM
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Tackle. For some reason we didn't give him much help like pitt was doing with their tackle against TJ parker
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Associate AD [1003]
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Re: Yeah but parks was getting abused at right
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Nov 17, 2024, 10:27 AM
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We can’t leave Bringstool in to block. Much like Jordan Legette, a great weapon in the pass game but can’t block sunshine with a beach umbrella. Banks Pope and OPH are gonna have to play more against the chickens if we want to block Stewart and Kennard.
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Orange Elite [5327]
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Re: He played the whole game
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:38 PM
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Great point. 100% correct. Center was the only lineman playing his position. I’m disappointed we didn’t seem to make any halftime adjustments on offense.
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Starter [299]
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Re: He played the whole game
Nov 17, 2024, 12:09 PM
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LTs make so much money because they protect the blind side of quarterbacks that are right handed which is most quarterbacks. It's not that their job is harder. They have to better at it because they are protecting a $50 million quarterback.
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Sorry. Sensible thinking is not allowed on this board. Someone should have let you know.
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Orange Blooded [2462]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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I agree, but also: there is no excuse for all of the dropped balls. The WRs have regressed as the season has continued.
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Rival Killer [2912]
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Correct. And pretty sure Pitt had some injuries as well***
Nov 16, 2024, 8:57 PM
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110%er [4078]
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I am standing by the miracle-explanation***
Nov 16, 2024, 5:13 PM
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Great win for Tigers. However, Pitt also has many injuries. The qb is a backup. The running back was banged up and still had a huge game.
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 12:52 PM
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Exactly
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Orange Elite [5297]
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You don't seem to understand how this particular board works.
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Nov 16, 2024, 6:19 PM
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Over here on the Tigernet football board, perfection is the standard. There must not be flaws or blemishes of any type. There cannot be setbacks, or tight games.
On offense, there must not be drops, sacks, incompletions, low-yardage plays, penalties, punts or field goals. Every drive must culminate with seven points.
On defense, there must not be busted coverages, penalties, long-yardage plays by opponents, or scores allowed. Every drive must be three plays only, and a punt back to the perfect Clemson offense.
Dabo Swinney must not laugh while on the sideline. He must not interfere in any way with the offensive coordinator, who must of course call only plays that make 10 or more yards.
If the defensive coordinator is not named "Brent," he is a failure. A bad hire.
I hope this helps you better understand the special nature of the Tigernet football board.
Now, over at the Tigernet BASKETBALL board ... well.
Happy to be the 20th TU in this thread.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: You don't seem to understand how this particular board works.
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Exactly lol 👍
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National Champion [8044]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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What’s the excuse for the Louisville game? And Pitt had multiple injuries as well. The dropped balls were embarrassing and defense as usual was inconsistent, as it has been all season. We got lucky with Cade at the end of the game.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 16, 2024, 6:45 PM
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Inconsistent, like your posts?
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National Champion [8044]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 16, 2024, 6:49 PM
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My posts inconsistent? Okay
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 10:52 AM
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Blee blah blu blu blu
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National Champion [8079]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Pitt was missing their starting QB and ENTIRE starting Oline by end of the game……AND still had taken lead in last 2 minutes.
Excuses are exactly that. Our backups are higher rated than any starter on that Pitt team!!
And Sammy earned his ejection, selfish and dumb play. Youth is not the same as ignorance, he knows what he did was bad and hopefully the lesson is learned. Easily avoidable and inexcusable regardless of his youth
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Athletic Dir [1144]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Nov 16, 2024, 6:38 PM
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With about 13 mins left in the 4th street, we had 8 yds rushing. That's what you expect from SC State playing us. Tough luck that we're the only P5 team with injuries.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 16, 2024, 6:39 PM
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Finally; a cogent take on this board👍
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Solid Orange [1383]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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we were suspect with these guys.Clemson not elite anymore Dabo built it and now he's bringing it down thru his recruiting prowess.
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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👆Insert regurgitated, repetitive stale take here
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National Champion [8044]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 16, 2024, 6:52 PM
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Angry Troll
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Game Changer [1904]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 10:54 AM
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"Everyone I Don't Like Is An Angry Troll"- The Low IQ Guide To Internet Sports Boards
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Athletic Dir [1113]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 11:18 AM
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Cope and seethe angry little troll. Cope and seethe….
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Game Changer [1725]
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True, but why don't we have better depth?***
Nov 16, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103161]
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What's our record after beating Pitt on the road with many starters out?***
Nov 16, 2024, 8:58 PM
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Athletic Dir [1113]
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They transfer out and aren’t replaced with similar talent. Worried that the roster is going to be bankrupt soon. Look at RB and LB, and DE. What in the world is the deal at RB? Are they going to use one in 2025?
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Hall of Famer [8290]
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that's been the exercise since Justyn Ross was injured years ago
Nov 16, 2024, 8:51 PM
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get over it. it's just not the case
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Game Changer [1800]
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Just win, baby. !!!
Nov 17, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Nm
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Re: Just win, baby. !!!
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GO TIGERS! A win is a win. You Debbie downers have no clue.
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
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Why not use the Portal like your competitors to pick up just a few players to build some depth at important positions so injuries don't make a big difference.
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Orange Elite [5410]
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Elite teams have high quality reserves they can plug in b/c injuries are
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Inevitable! Recruit better and position coach develop better! That requires spending $$ on recruits and on top notch position coaches!
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 11:21 AM
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I sure wish those OL portal offers we made had panned out for us...
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Varsity [104]
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That's not it at all.
Nov 17, 2024, 12:45 PM
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Dabo orides himself on developing players. Where's the development of the OL backups?
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Game Changer [1847]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 3:29 PM
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Agree, get well against Citadel, then have our best game against the Coots!! Miami has to lose a game…..
Go Tigers!
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Game Changer [1847]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 3:29 PM
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Agree, get well against Citadel, then have our best game against the Coots!! Miami has to lose a game…..
Go Tigers!
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 3:44 PM
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I will say this, next season with the OL coming back, and basically the entire offense coming back minus one or two players this should be the best OL and offensive team that we've had probably since the last season of DW4 and Trevor Lawrence. I hope that I'm still with the living to see our Tigers play next season Go Tigers...
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Starter [281]
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Re: Some people on here need to understand the impact of being
Nov 17, 2024, 4:38 PM
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It’s incredibly disappointing when someone points out important information when talking about the Tigers’ performance in a game. You should be like David Hale who talked about our “abysmal O-line play” without mentioning any of the injuries.
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Campus Hero [13554]
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On offense, those losses aren't what was hurting us most.
Nov 17, 2024, 4:52 PM
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I'm sure it limited the playbook but we actually do better with the simple, quick hitting plays anyway.
The main problem on offense was running the ball, and I think that had to do with a lack of blocking by the TE and a running back who was clearly injured and not running hard. Pitt was selling out to stop the run but we had opportunities on the outside, which were not taken advantage of.
Something else - a lot of times we run what looks like a read option (the DE is unblocked) but then Cade hands the ball to the RB no matter what. I mean the DE crashes like #### and he still hands it off. I don't know if that is Cade messing up or if it is baked into the playcall but if we could have just fixed that, it would have opened up the run more. In fact on that last play they were so eager to get Mafah (and the blocking was good) that Cade was untouched.
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With all due respect to you TigerCC and the injured players
Nov 17, 2024, 4:53 PM
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down our 3 best tackles (losing 3rd best on the first snap), a starting left guard and another quality backup on the offensive line.
Then also being down the leading tackler on Def, then lose his replacement for the 2nd half.
If we get back 2 of the 4 Offensive lineman, Wade Woodazz, Sammy Brown, Tyler Brown & Demonte Capehardt and we're going to look MUCH better.
We looked worse vs. Louisville with these players in the game.
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