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All-In [48078]
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Unccompanied minors at border.
Mar 16, 2021, 10:17 AM
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What should we do with them and how do we stop the flow of them?
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Turn them around. They made it there without parents.
Mar 16, 2021, 10:21 AM
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Unfortunately letting them in just encourages the behavior.
We need a much easier, and cheaper path to legal immigration.
We're sponsoring one of our employees, who is Ethiopian, for citizenship and it's ridiculously expensive.
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Re: Turn them around. They made it there without parents.
Mar 16, 2021, 10:24 AM
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Makes sense to me. We are encouraging them now.
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All-TigerNet [11644]
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What is your humane middle ground?***
Mar 16, 2021, 11:49 AM
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Re: What is your humane middle ground?***
Mar 16, 2021, 1:50 PM
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Well, maybe something like this
1. We house the children in some sort of reasonable living quarters while we process them - nothing fancy, but nothing punitive either. Surely we can afford to do this for children. I think there are plenty of charities across America that would be glad to help us with this.
2. We devote more resources to find American relatives or homes that will take responsibility for the kids while their refugee cases are being adjudicated. And we follow up to make sure that they appear for that adjudication
3. We allow them to stay if we have reasonable expectations that they will become educated and later contributing members of our society.
I cannot tell you how many Hispanic kids that I have taught. The vast majority of them have been hard-working, honest, respectful students. A number of them have taken my most challenging classes and done well. Many of them have gone on the earn academic honors and go to college. I cannot think of a single one who has not gone on to being a contributing member of our society.
These are kids. They deserve a chance to prove themselves. If America cannot afford THIS type of opportunity, we need to stop calling ourselves the land of such.
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I'd like some free housing while I get processed***
Mar 16, 2021, 2:01 PM
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Re: And what about the next wave?
Mar 16, 2021, 3:37 PM
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ZJ
What if it did not end ? What if we continued to take in these kids and turn them into educated & productive citizens of the United States ? Would that kill us ? I wonder.
I know that freaks y'all out, so I am willing to entertain thoughts on a compromise position. Do you have any suggestions that are humane and reasonable ?
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put them in the back of a truck and take
Mar 16, 2021, 10:26 AM
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them straight to the avocado farms in Southern California. All the hipsters and earthy types lovvveee avocados, lets keep pumping them into the market.
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Hmmmmm
Mar 16, 2021, 10:27 AM
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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Oculus Spirit [78977]
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Emma Lazarus’s Petrarchan wrote a heck of a sonnet***
Mar 16, 2021, 10:30 AM
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Re: Hmmmmm
Mar 16, 2021, 10:34 AM
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It was just a nice thing some lady wrote I believe and they put near the statue. It's not like it's anything more than that. It's not as if we can't adapt our society at times to being practical.
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Then this is the answer
Mar 16, 2021, 10:48 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97826]
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So we can build bigger McMansions and drive fancier cars
Mar 16, 2021, 11:07 AM
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They're not coming here to be free. They're coming here to make a buck. We leverage their cheap labor here, then they leverage our dollar sending it home. We use them here to build bigger houses, and pay for fancier things, they send our dollars back home so their family can get running water and a flushing toilet and maybe a window AC unit and afford food.
I have YET to find an illegal worker in the US who came here to be "free". Every single one of them, like 99%, are sending money back to their home country to support a wife and kids, or their parents, or siblings, or all of the above. Sometimes they come to the US make $800 a week and send $600 a week back home, living on only $200 (or less) a week. Back home that buys medicine for their sick mother, or pays for their son's education. Or that new piece of land and a house they hope to build some day and return to after working in the US, and retire.
That's the truth behind it. Everything else is politics.
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Re: So we can build bigger McMansions and drive fancier cars
Mar 16, 2021, 11:23 AM
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Where will the thousands of the unaccompanied minors being living and working?
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Oculus Spirit [97826]
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Their parents hope in the US. When they grow up
Mar 16, 2021, 11:44 AM
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Most have someone here in the US to take them. They just need to meet up with them. They know they won't be sent home. So they stay with their uncle, who raises them in the US, and they're educated here, maybe get a good job here, and send money back to whoever.
Sometimes they lose their original goals and become citizens. Whoever they were supporting leaves them. Wife runs off with someone else. Whatever. Then they just stay. But coming here, originally, it's always to make money. And originally they always have someone to send money back home to support.
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Re: Their parents hope in the US. When they grow up
Mar 16, 2021, 11:50 AM
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I agree with the adults who want to work or even teenagers. There are tons of kids too young to work though. The US taxpayers have to pay for them. Some are even just single moms with 3 or 4 small children with them as well. Generally I was talking about unaccompanied minors though.
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Re: So we can build bigger McMansions and drive fancier cars
Mar 16, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Tiggity,
I think that the biggest part of our freedom in America is based on the type of economic freedom which you describe. Most Americans are far more interested in their economic well being than some type of political freedom.
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If they were American the parents would be arrested
Mar 16, 2021, 11:23 AM
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For child endangerment...
Oh, I forgot, they dont have to follow US laws ... very convenient
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Re: If they were American the parents would be arrested***
Mar 16, 2021, 11:24 AM
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I think the parents have to break the law in the US to be charged.
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Re: Unccompanied minors at border.
Mar 16, 2021, 11:47 AM
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Maybe some sort of barrier, or fencing type structure would help.
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Nancy Pelosi has a nice fence around her house
Mar 16, 2021, 12:34 PM
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If the gubmint needs ideas about how it should look
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Right now - house them (for $775 per day) the best we can;
Mar 16, 2021, 12:09 PM
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When the pandemic is over, they will be free to come in and there will be no more crisis at the border...just more people in the US to feed (even though we apparently can't feed all US Americans as it is).
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Finish the wall.***
Mar 16, 2021, 12:12 PM
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Dems in complete control ...
Mar 16, 2021, 2:41 PM
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Just sit back and let them work their magic ...
They have all 3 branches ... Pubs cant stop them from fixing all the worlds problems
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