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maybe he spoke the truth***
Aug 28, 2020, 10:33 AM
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Game Changer [1956]
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Re: maybe he spoke the truth***
Aug 28, 2020, 10:36 AM
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Or maybe he’s just another hypocrite...
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Re: maybe he spoke the truth***
Aug 28, 2020, 4:02 PM
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Lou Holtz molests children. May be true.
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That was one of the most embarrassing parts of the RNC
Aug 28, 2020, 10:33 AM
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The behavior and character we have witnessed in the age of Trumpism would have made people lose their minds if it was coming from the other "side".
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Re: That was one of the most embarrassing parts of the RNC
Aug 28, 2020, 10:38 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103010]
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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Didn't pay that much attention to Lou...
Aug 28, 2020, 10:37 AM
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I remember thinking his speech was one of the weaker ones (I typically feel that way when they become personal and less about the issues).
I think Notre Dame's statement is accurate. I'm just not sure of the specifics of what he said.
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Re: Didn't pay that much attention to Lou...
Aug 28, 2020, 11:37 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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yep, that's the stuff I don't like...
Aug 28, 2020, 12:11 PM
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even if it may be true 
I prefer for them to point out the bad actions/behavior - "Biden voted for the Iraq war," as opposed to personal statements - "Joe Biden is a miserable excuse for a human being."
....which is in line with the ND statement.
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you don’t like Christians standing up for
Aug 28, 2020, 12:38 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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That's not what I'm saying...
Aug 28, 2020, 12:54 PM
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you ever hear the phrase, "hate the sin, love the sinner?"
Well that certainly is not a quote from the Bible, but I think its teachings support it.
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." John 7:1-5
This is one of the verses that is most often taken out of context. Doesn't say not to judge, but to use the measure you want too be judged by. For me, that measure is grace. So that means it's perfectly fine to make a judgment on actions, but not okay to judge the person.
I think it is perfectly okay to say that Joe Biden supports abortion. That goes against Catholic teaching and is a bad thing.
I think it's not okay to say, Joe Biden is not Catholic or Joe Biden is not a Christian. I have no way to determine that because I do not know his heart.
I don't want someone look at my sin and condemn me either.
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Re: That's not what I'm saying...
Aug 28, 2020, 1:00 PM
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Clemson Icon [25778]
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Re: T3Tiger isn't a true Christian. Why listen to him?***
Aug 28, 2020, 1:16 PM
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Clemson Icon [25778]
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See you're still crying about TDs you snowflake
Aug 28, 2020, 1:24 PM
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Lame. 
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Not crying about anything just stating reality
Aug 28, 2020, 2:37 PM
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Clemson Icon [25778]
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You funny old man. Go cry to Crump some more
Aug 28, 2020, 3:02 PM
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You gonna brag about your house size next? You can't afford to buy in the neighborhood I live.
Who's hiding behind a keyboard? You're the one that blocks people like an ole bitty. You trying to schedule another in-person fight?
Glad your tears finally dried up after TD pouting. A grown ### man crying to mods. What a child.
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Re: You funny old man. Go cry to Crump some more
Aug 28, 2020, 3:14 PM
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Clemson Icon [25778]
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Some lakefront homes in Spence are spectacular
Aug 28, 2020, 4:00 PM
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But non-lakefront sells for $100-$130/sqft. That's fancy to you?
Woodcreek is where folks go to stretch their dollars further than buying in town if that's your preference and don't mind the commute. Now if you live on a road like Spurrier's house, then I'll give you an atta boy.
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good response by ND***
Aug 28, 2020, 11:16 AM
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well-stated ND.
Aug 28, 2020, 11:21 AM
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Between Granny's Catholic hypocrisy and Falwell Jr's evangelical hypocrisy, the GOP has the hypocritical religious vote in the bag!
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Probably the only time I ever agreed with Lou
Aug 28, 2020, 11:35 AM
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Re: Probably the only time I ever agreed with Lou
Aug 28, 2020, 12:43 PM
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Yeah for religious hypocrisy and selective outrage!
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Re: Probably the only time I ever agreed with Lou
Aug 28, 2020, 1:25 PM
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TD me all you want but that priest knowingly provided communion to others who do not qualify for similar reasons.
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Re: ND statement about Dr Lou’s speech
Aug 28, 2020, 11:48 AM
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Old Lou is sowing himself quite a legacy. And I am not saying this because he coached in Columbia, but he represented everything that was wrong with college coaching during his time at ND, I am glad programs like clemson have set a better model for how these kids should be treated.
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