|
Replies: 28
| visibility 2,501
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
1
5
5
Dec 13, 2023, 4:57 PM
|
|
whipping the top 4 or competing head to head with them 3 or 4 years ago but not now. Nil is making it difficult whereas a 5 star player we could get is not being bought to go other places. Maybe hard for these kids to turn down big money.
|
|
|
|
 |
Orange Blooded [2952]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2399
Joined: 1/7/18
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
4
Dec 13, 2023, 5:00 PM
|
|
NiL is making college football not worth watching or messing with . A championship will be nothing more than a bought trophy . If it keeps up people will fall off more and more every year .
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
1
2
Dec 13, 2023, 5:02 PM
|
|
Money and the greed for it is overlapping Character and development and education with most.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Letterman [278]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 392
Joined: 11/30/13
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
2
Dec 13, 2023, 5:07 PM
|
|
The college football landscaping changed and Clemson is trying too. Early returns are concerning.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16045]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7670
Joined: 12/4/06
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 5:30 PM
|
|
It’s hard to sale your soul when you are an Elite University whose leadership have character and integrity; Clemson University.
I honestly do not believe Dabo will coach college football 5 more years. Much less 15 years he indicated recently in a press conference.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12839
Joined: 11/14/09
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 5:02 PM
|
|
Our 2 recent Natty years we averaged somewhere around 12th and 10th in recruiting class rankings respectively for the 4 years prior. We've gotten more national attention since and higher class ranks there for a bit but it doesn't seem to have translated as well into production.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
1
Dec 13, 2023, 5:30 PM
|
|
I thought we were getting some top 5 classes. My bad.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14120]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9190
Joined: 8/30/18
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12839
Joined: 11/14/09
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 6:18 PM
|
|
No doubt a solid QB is paramount to winning championships, but without the right pieces all over the field on both sides to complement, it's not happening. LSU this year, OK 2x during our run, Louisville - generational QB's without the team hardware to show for it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3615]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 8864
Joined: 5/16/22
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 5:09 PM
|
|
I think in 2025 we are right there with them. Next year will be interesting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [141196]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33976
Joined: 12/5/10
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
11
11
Dec 13, 2023, 5:13 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14867]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8129
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
2
Dec 13, 2023, 5:52 PM
|
|
seriously, you need to deputize me dude! We can clean up the trash. LOL
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [77611]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28765
Joined: 12/1/18
|
Stop gaslighting, coot.
1
1
Dec 13, 2023, 6:31 PM
|
|
Everyone here knows you're a troll.
Great effort for a reflardo though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [141196]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33976
Joined: 12/5/10
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [77611]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28765
Joined: 12/1/18
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
2
Dec 13, 2023, 6:33 PM
|
|
You tell em Blood. I might give you a moonpie for Christmas.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [77611]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28765
Joined: 12/1/18
|
You couldn't afford one.***
1
Dec 13, 2023, 6:34 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23122]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19822
Joined: 1/15/11
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [54245]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 43669
Joined: 11/17/03
|
Facts.....***
Dec 13, 2023, 5:21 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7317]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4633
Joined: 1/26/10
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 5:19 PM
|
|
I don't think the recruiting class rankings are as much of a problem as some of the top prospects we have landed over the past 3 years aren't playing at a high level .
So I definitely agree it seems we are getting beaten on some recruits, but the ones we have been getting have been getting are misses
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1892]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 1583
Joined: 10/3/19
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
1
Dec 13, 2023, 5:35 PM
|
|
I’ve thought player evaluations and development have been off the mark the last 3 years at a higher than normal level. I expect our hit rate to improve with the hiring of legit experienced assistant coaches.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12839
Joined: 11/14/09
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
Dec 13, 2023, 6:25 PM
|
|
It's definitely fair to say we haven't hit on the same number of recruits these past few years that we were prior to the CFP run. Covid cutting down on in-person visits certainly seems a factor considering our prowess there, and I wonder how much of an impact it's been with more top players throughout the country seeking out Clemson as a destination versus more of the scouting and chasing approach we had to engage in prior to reaching the mountaintop.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were
1
1
Dec 13, 2023, 5:38 PM
[ in reply to Re: Overall Recruiting for football falling behind. We were ] |
|
Yes. Good point. DJ and WRs underperformed. Our O line never compares to Georgia and Alabama Michigan and Ohio State. Georgia has 20 top players to our 9 this year. They also are successful in the portal. They have no concern for putting a transfer in front of a high school recruit. They are playing with another set of rules from us.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-American [597]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 6350
Joined: 8/30/14
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4484]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 4262
Joined: 1/1/19
|
Re: It's the upper level 4 stars...
1
Dec 13, 2023, 5:41 PM
|
|
I do agree that our evaluations have not been as good probably due to Streeter and Austin. I’ll have to add our WR coach in that as well.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [44200]
TigerPulse: 81%
Posts: 33082
Joined: 2/22/03
|
Blaming NIL is a cop out.
1
Dec 13, 2023, 8:47 PM
|
|
We haven’t had the same caliber of recruiters on staff like we had in the past, but that’s not our biggest problem. Our biggest problem has been player development.
We have plenty of talent, it’s just not being developed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14120]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9190
Joined: 8/30/18
|
Re: Blaming NIL is a cop out.
Dec 13, 2023, 8:54 PM
|
|
NIL becomes an issue when it is the recruit’s #1 issue. Lots of top programs can sell family, culture, and education but a top recruit from humble beginnings with a family relying on him makes NIL a problem for those who don’t or won’t step up.
Welcome to the new normal…
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 28
| visibility 2,501
|
|
|
50
