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One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
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May 22, 2024, 6:11 PM
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What if an athlete had to complete one full academic year at a school to be eligible for NIL money at THAT school? Wouldn’t that help solve some of the issues like the Rashada/Napier/Florida lawsuit and also discourage some of the player-for-hire we are seeing now?
I know there isn’t a governing body to control NIL, and there currently isn’t one button to push to make this possible. But there has to be some way to slow the insanity we’re seeing now.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
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May 22, 2024, 6:15 PM
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SCOTUS said you can't regulate NIL.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
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May 22, 2024, 6:28 PM
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There can be graduation requirements imposed on universities. NIL has ZERO to do with what college is supposed to be about. jus sayin.
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No, there can't.
May 23, 2024, 7:27 AM
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That would be illegal. Athletes have the right to unlimited transfers without penalty just like any other student.
So says the federal court in the Ohio vs NCAA case.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
May 22, 2024, 7:56 PM
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The NIL collectives can make backloaded contracts, retention bonuses, etc, even buyout clauses but other NIL collectives can also offer to cover these to come to their schools. Nothing the NCAA or conferences can do about it, but eventually these non-tax deductible wells will dry up, they’ll start thinking twice about how much money they throw at kids, and then in raw capitalist fashion they’ll undoubtedly collude behind the scenes to make some sort of gentlemen’s agreements to avoid all out bidding wars and likely some sort of informal cap
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
May 22, 2024, 7:18 PM
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Just make them sit out a year if they transfer or lose a year of eligibility. That would bring a screeching halt to a lot of this nonsense.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
May 22, 2024, 8:00 PM
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Free market will eventually sort it out …
Rich people don’t get rich by throwing away money…
There is mostly zero ROI on NIL money….
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
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May 22, 2024, 8:02 PM
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You could argue that free market didn’t stop bagmen in the past …
But NIL money is astronomical compared to the cash that used to flow…
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That is illegal under federal law.
May 22, 2024, 8:05 PM
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The Ohio vs NCAA federal injunction says that athletes have the right to unlimited transfers just like any other student.
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Re: That is illegal under federal law.
May 22, 2024, 8:24 PM
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Is that while holding a scholarship or not?
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Doesn't matter.
May 22, 2024, 8:36 PM
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Any NCAA interference in unlimited transfers is illegal.
That's without the NIL business factors that also make it illegal for the NCAA to interfere with interstate commerce by using transfer limits to interfere with transfers across state lines.
31 states also have state laws against the NCAA that prevent them from regulating in state transfers, with more pending.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
May 22, 2024, 8:23 PM
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What if an athlete had to complete one full academic year at a school to be eligible for NIL money at THAT school? Wouldn’t that help solve some of the issues like the Rashada/Napier/Florida lawsuit and also discourage some of the player-for-hire we are seeing now?
I know there isn’t a governing body to control NIL, and there currently isn’t one button to push to make this possible. But there has to be some way to slow the insanity we’re seeing now.
Taming the transfer portal is the first step in taming NIL, if a player has to sit for a year after entering the portal, whoever is offering said player is making an investment. NIL is here to stay but the NCAA does still have control over the portal, they just continue to stick their heads in the sand.
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Illegal.
May 22, 2024, 8:37 PM
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The NCAA can't interfere with it regulate transfers for anyone that is academically eligible.
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Re: Illegal.
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May 23, 2024, 6:06 AM
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Yep: "Court sets aside NCAA transfer rule"
The NCAA issued a statement Wednesday afternoon saying it would not challenge the ruling, and would notify schools as such. That means that any second-time undergraduate transfer who was previously forced to sit out will be able to play immediately.
The NCAA adopted a rule in 2021 allowing for a one-time transfer exception for undergraduates, meaning any athlete could transfer once and play immediately without sitting out a year. Second-time transfers were required to be graduates or receive an NCAA waiver in order to play immediately at a third school.
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Re: One possible way to make NIL better, maybe
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May 22, 2024, 8:23 PM
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NIL is employment, and if the athlete earns the job, good for him or her. On the bright side, NIL is good for states and the country because taxes have to be paid.
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So you're saying the players are employees now? They should be, but that's
May 22, 2024, 8:26 PM
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news to me.
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Re: So you're saying the players are employees now? They should be, but that's
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May 23, 2024, 6:07 AM
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They're not employees of the university, they are marketing representatives for their NIL "employers".
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It is not employment.
May 23, 2024, 7:31 AM
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The athletes don't work for the NIL collectives. They e dirse products and services in return for contracted fees.
That's not employment.
A comparison is that Patrick Mahomes endorses State Farm insurance, but he is not employed by that company.
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It's all a complete farce.***
May 22, 2024, 8:27 PM
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The NCAA? Absolutely.
May 22, 2024, 8:40 PM
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NIL contracts, unlimited transfers, and preventing the NCAA from exploiting athletes for money were not only a farce, they were patently illegal. The courts are fixing it...which is their job.
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