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Modern Car Reliability
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Modern Car Reliability

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Dec 30, 2024, 2:49 PM

Time to upgrade wife's car and need something reliable to get us to and from Clemson games for many years. She wants a crossover SUV. Everything in the 3-4 year old range looks like it has a turbo, CVT, or both. Afraid of having costly problems with such things. Has anyone here gotten over 200K miles out of a turbo and/or CVT with no problem or less than 100K miles before the whole thing was trash? What make/model?

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Dec 30, 2024, 2:50 PM

Not able to get something brand new? We have a 2024 Subaru Forrester and we LOVE it!

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:20 PM

My mom has one too and it’s really nice. She loves it

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Dec 30, 2024, 2:50 PM

Toyota RAV4

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:13 PM

We just purchased a 2025 telluride and we love it.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:20 PM

I have a palisade and no complaints! Love it

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:23 PM

Stay away from the CVT, IMO. Bought a Rogue with one and transmission died on the interstate just barely over 100k miles. Never again for me.

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Git you a Toyoder***

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:23 PM



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my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.***

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:49 PM



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Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.***

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:09 PM

Our 2nd car is a 09 Highlander with 205k miles. Runs like a champ. New car is a 23 Rav4. Toyota all the way.

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:24 PM

Beat ND ..

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Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.***

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Dec 30, 2024, 6:14 PM

lose to ND.

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Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.***


Dec 30, 2024, 7:36 PM [ in reply to Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.*** ]

Dawgs 24-14.

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Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.***


Dec 31, 2024, 9:27 AM [ in reply to Re: my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.*** ]

Notre Dame has a mediocre offense.

Dogs have a mediocre offense.

Dogs gonna win the trenches.

Dogs gonna win the natty.

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Not likely without Beck


Dec 31, 2024, 9:33 AM

Oregon or OSU are both better.

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Snowflake Basher........Out


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Dec 30, 2024, 5:03 PM [ in reply to my 2004 4Runner is at 220,000 and doing fine.*** ]

2005 4Runner at 235,000.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:29 PM

Stay far away from an Equinox and the GMC Terrains is all I know.

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What's wrong with the Equinox? I know about a 2014 that had a good run.


Dec 30, 2024, 4:34 PM

Still going strong actually.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:40 PM

I did a bit of research on CVTs when my kids got their cars - 2016 and 2019 Corollas. The real problem CVTs were Nissan; apparently their supplier didn't quite have things figured out. Toyota and Honda use a different supplier and I don't think there have been significant issues. I would follow the recommended maintenence on them.

As for turbos: Again, it may be hard to avoid them, but I know they are more reliable then they were back in the day. HOWEVER, Mazda did (or does) have a problem with their turbo overheating and cracking an adjacent engine component (valve covers?) on one of their SUVs. You might wanna research that on Mazda forums.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:55 PM

Agree with this. I have a CVT in our Honda Accord that is 11 years old and almost 100k miles with no problems.

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:18 PM

Did you follow the recommended maintenance on the CVT? I think Yoda says to change fluid something like every 50k miles or so.

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:57 PM

Yes, I generally do on all my cars. I have the Honda set for every 30k. I’d have to check but I think the Honda is every 60k.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:50 PM

My wife had a Forrester and now she has a Honda CRV. Never had any problems. She loved both of them.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:58 PM

The Rav4 has a CVT. Haven’t seen problems with it on my daughters car. Reliance on the parking brake always gives me pause. I had a turbo on a ‘05 Subaru. Never again. We just bought a new Cadillac XT5. They are moving that platform to a 4 cylinder turbo, but we were able to still get a V6 on an option package. Had a 2020 XT5 and liked it alot, so made the update before Cadillac goes completely EV.

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Get yourself an EV; no transmission to worry about


Dec 30, 2024, 3:51 PM

no oil changes either for that matter. The last 50K miles all I’ve had for maintenance was rotate/replace tires.

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Re: Get yourself an EV; no transmission to worry about

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:34 PM

And with all the tax rebates, my new model 3 was cheaper than a new Camry.

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Re: Get yourself an EV; no transmission to worry about

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:00 PM [ in reply to Get yourself an EV; no transmission to worry about ]

Good luck driving an EV from Charleston to Clemson for a game and then needing to drive back.

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There are like 5 Tesla supercharger locations between Charleston and Clemson

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Dec 30, 2024, 7:34 PM

I don’t need luck. Range fears aren’t really a thing.

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Dec 30, 2024, 3:52 PM

Check out used Mazda CX-5's. Nice crossover with better cargo space than similar styles, and they don't use CVT transmissions. Safety features are pretty solid for toting around the Mrs.

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I have a friend who is an auto-mechanic.

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:03 PM

Owned his own business for 30+ years. Here is the advice he gave me about 7 years ago.

1. Stay away from CVT. He sees way too many of them in his shop. (I was seriously thinking about buying a Nissan Rogue.)

2. His advice to me was to buy either a Honda or a Toyota. Said they were easily the most reliable cars on the market. Here are a few of his quips about them: Mechanics hate Hondas and Toyotas. They never break down. You may do something and kill one, but they won't die of old age.

Personal testimony. My wife and I only owned Toyotas from 1975 to around 1992. We switched to Hondas then because Toyota quit making a Corolla station wagon. Since then we have owned 2 C-RVs and 2 Accords. I loved my Toyotas, and I love my Hondas. Right now our "new car" is a C-RV with 120,000 miles on it. Our "old car" is a 2006 Accord with 170,000 miles on it. Both are running well. We have no intention of replacing either of them.

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:09 PM

Got a hybrid Toyota grand highlander. Big enough for 6 with a little room in the back. Gets 35 mpg plus. Very comfortable.

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:23 PM [ in reply to I have a friend who is an auto-mechanic. ]

Bought a new Honda CR-V in January - love it ..

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My 85 300 SD Benz has 265K on it so its half life in coming up in just...


Dec 30, 2024, 9:01 PM [ in reply to I have a friend who is an auto-mechanic. ]

250K more miles. 750K is not unexpected so my grand kids can have the engine rebuilt.

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Dec 30, 2024, 9:20 PM

I have a 2000 E430 with 262K on the clock. It’ll never out live a diesel, but she still looks and runs great.

I keep my machines. I have that “I get emotionally attached to my machines” disease.

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Dec 30, 2024, 4:52 PM

Agree with most here. Toyota makes a great vehicle

Or upgrade to a Lexus ( luxury line of Toyota )
and have zero concerns.

Lexus is year in and year out America's most reliable car. Hands down

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/#:~:text=Subaru%2C%20Lexus%2C%20and%20Toyota%20lead,hybrids%2C%20EVs%2C%20and%20PHEVs.&text=An%20unreliable%20vehicle%20can%20become,prices%20averaging%20more%20than%20%2448%2C000.


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Dec 30, 2024, 5:06 PM

I work for a turbo OEM. Turbocharger technology is a mature technology which is common on many/most vehicles for a good reason. I have a hundred K on a 2014 model with no issues as they should last the life of the engine assuming standard maintenance. CVT is common on Toyota and Honda with few issues. Some don’t like how they operate but has zero to do with reliability. Not sure of your budget but a midsize Acura or Lexus SUV a few years old is a great ride and decent deal. I like the site www.cargurus.com for searching and the US News site for checking reliability on a specific make/year/model

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:09 PM

Agree turbos are pretty reliable at this point. I think the problem for a lot of people is they require more “standard maintenance” than NA motors.

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I had a turbo and never again


Dec 30, 2024, 5:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Modern Car Reliability ]

For one, they add stress to the engine. They are hard on EGR valves and to get replace one, you need to take the turbo out. And of course there is the intercooler which typically sits right on top of the engine.

My current vehicle is an Acura RDX. It’s 6 cylinder engine outperforms and gets better gas mileage than the newer ones with turbo 4s. You can do tricks with a v6 that you can’t with a turbo4 - like shutting off one cylinder bank when not needed.

The only car company I would trust with a turbo is Porsche. And even then the engine compartment gets quite crowded which means more expensive repairs.

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:32 PM

I have a 2021 Subaru WRX, 143,000 miles on it with no problems, fun car to drive.

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Dec 30, 2024, 5:37 PM

Wife has a 23 honda crv turbo 4cyl. Runs great

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Dec 30, 2024, 6:25 PM

Google whatever you’re looking at getting, for example 2023 Nissan Altima problems. If there are major problems this is a good way to find out

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Dec 30, 2024, 6:58 PM

i use

https://www.carcomplaints.com/

to look for issues

repairpal too

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Tnetters are to turbos as Dabo is to the portal.

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Dec 30, 2024, 7:12 PM

X6M is the only option.

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Dec 30, 2024, 7:26 PM

Wait a few months if you can, car sales dropped +18% and repo's increased +20% this quarter. The car market is going to be making a correction. Unfortunately, manufacturing is going to Mexico, equating to about a 30% savings on building automobiles for manufacturers. If I had to buy right now I would be looking for a good used car... Avg interest rate on a new vehicle is around 11% if I'm not mistaken.

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Dec 30, 2024, 8:24 PM

You can get Mazda SUVs that are non-turbo and non-CVT, such as a 2021 Mazda CX-5. Back in the summer I got a 2018 Ford Escape that's non-turbo and non-CVT. If you get an Escape from that generation make sure you get the base S trim because the non-S trims have a turbo and the engines can develop a coolant intrusion issue that destroys the engine.

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Two Words


Dec 30, 2024, 8:47 PM

Toyota Land Cruiser

The new ones will be legendary on reliability.

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Find an old MB with the 5cyl om617 diesel engine.


Dec 30, 2024, 8:57 PM

If you can find one with less than half a million miles on it you're probably good for another 300K.

A 90s model Honda is also a long lived critter along with the small block Chevy from the '60 and the Dodge slant six of that era.

New cars are like coffee makers. Two or three years you dispose of them so they won't burn your house down.

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Dec 30, 2024, 9:10 PM

I understand you are talking about Toyota and Subaru.

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Dec 30, 2024, 9:23 PM

If I had to point to ONE PROBLEM with modern cars, it is - TOO MANY COMPUTERS!!!

I don’t need a computer for the rear view mirror. All that electronic geez whiz stuff fails. It’s the same on airplanes btw.

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Dec 31, 2024, 9:29 AM

Telluride is fabulous.

But if you want a car with very little maintenance get an EV, Kia EV9 rocks.

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Dec 31, 2024, 9:31 AM

Toyota Venza Hybrid

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Dec 31, 2024, 9:39 AM

I bought anF150 2023 that has the 3.5 eco boost engine. I love the truck. I got the Lariat model with a big scree. It has the cruise control that is almost self driving, you have to keep you hands on the steering wheel. It will slow down in traffic if another car gets too close. Anyway, the 3.5 engine is considered one of the best engines ever made. It accelerates the truck in a surprising way.you should drive one to experience what I am talking about.

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Get an EV for low maintenance


Dec 31, 2024, 9:48 AM

No oil, no transmission, no water pump. And don't worry about the battery. It'll outlast the car.

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Toyota RAV4 Toyota is the best


Dec 31, 2024, 10:49 AM

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Dec 31, 2024, 10:51 AM

Like some others, I would say Subaru Forester or Toyota Rav 4. Both are about $30K new. A very good friend had a Rav 4 that lasted years in city driving.

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