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Solid Orange [1389]
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Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 4:58 PM
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First off, I Support JS, I'm really pulling for him to get usf on the right track...he a good man and coach....no hate here.
But part of South Fla reasoning behind hiring Jeff Scott was his reputation as a great recruiter....of course they didn't expect top 20 classes but They thought he'd get them back to the days of Willie Taggart where they finished first in their conference in recruiting and having top 40 or 50 classes in the country.....but that's just not happening...he finished 87th in recruiting this year....and has never finished better than 5th in recruiting in the AAC...
Being such a good recruiter, this has baffled some of the usf alum and fans....
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Game Changer [2010]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:05 PM
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He's already left S. Fl?
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:07 PM
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Huh?
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Game Changer [2010]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 6:00 PM
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My bad, I read it as UCF on the OP.
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Ring of Honor [22118]
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They don't have the facilities......yet.***
Feb 4, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Re: They don't have the facilities......yet.***
Feb 4, 2022, 5:12 PM
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Are they building some?
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Re: They don't have the facilities......yet.***
Feb 4, 2022, 5:43 PM
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Ah, there's the rub.
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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110%er [3722]
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I hope USF can be patient
Feb 4, 2022, 5:06 PM
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but my guess, his seat is starting to warm up.
Jeff could always come back to Clemson. Wouldn't that be nice.
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Dynasty Maker [3116]
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It's a lot easier to recruit to Clemson than USF***
Feb 4, 2022, 5:06 PM
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Orange Immortal [62739]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:09 PM
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Nah, I agree. Baffled, and I hate it for him too. I was thinking he'd contend for better talent in Florida and skyrocket the team.
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Oculus Spirit [44342]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:14 PM
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I did as well. At least we have sent a few of down there to help!
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Orange Immortal [62739]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:34 PM
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Thanks. As you pointed out and posted below, I wasn't even thinking about the portal. Good, I feel a little better now.
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National Champion [7838]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 5, 2022, 7:51 AM
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I’ve always wanted our transfers to go there to help him. Hopefully Ajou, Dukes, and Thornton can all make impacts next year.
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Game Day Hero [4343]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:22 PM
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Dabo encouraged him to take the position. He too was optimistic this was a program Jeff could succeed at. He certainly hasn’t forgotten how to recruit but maybe he needs to rethink the right way to get recruits to join South Florida. Also, the AAC has some tough competition these days.
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Game Changer [1973]
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He is going the portal route. I believe he got 3 or 4 from
Feb 4, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Clemson this year.
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All-Pro [786]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:30 PM
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Jeff Scott is not struggling at USF.
USF is bringing 14 people from the transfer portal. USF has one of the best transfer classes in the Nation. Most teams can’t even sign 14 people. I think he was left dumpster fire by Charlie Strong and now is trying to build it back up. I’ll go ahead and make a bold prediction. I say Jeff Scott makes a bowl game within a year or two.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:37 PM
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Yes his recruiting of highschool is low but like another poster stated he is doing g real good with transfer portal. He knows is limitations to be able to get 4 stars kids so I think he is making best of the situation. This yr if he don't go bowling he will be on the hot seat
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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No he won’t.***
Feb 5, 2022, 8:07 AM
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:38 PM
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3-18 overall is what I just looked up. I love JS and hope he makes it back to Clemson someday but to be grabbing 14 out of the portal means he did not have much when he got there. That’s a lot of band aids. Not sure how many of those will be there longer than 2 years. Hopefully these guys can get him through until he can start signing some top players out of high school. Wish him the best and miss him in Tigertown.
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Freshman [-74]
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So what if he signed 14 portal players?
Feb 4, 2022, 6:12 PM
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Why do people keep acting like they're the magic sauce for a successful program? It may work at USF, but there are no top-notch P5 programs building their program through players who didn't get it done at the school they're leaving.
And you're blaming Charlie Strong for what exactly? He won more games in his final year than Jeff has won in his first 2 combined. That's not Charlie Strong's fault.
I'd love for Jeff to get it done, I really would. But 3 wins in two years is totally on him.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 5:49 PM
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Tough sell at a place that has ever really been a factor in football. Great part of the country unless you hate traffic.
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 7:24 PM
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USF was the #2 team in the country back in 07. They didn’t even become a fbs team until 2001 but have gone to 10 bowls. There have been a few gaps of losing since joining fbs, but most years they have been a very competitive team that challenged for their conference championship. To say they’ve never been a factor in college football is just not true.
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Paw Master [16363]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 7:40 PM
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I like Jeff Scott, Brent Venables and Tony Elliott. Each of those coaches did an excellent job for Clemson and all are fine people.
That does not change the fact that most head coaches fail to succeed at the Power Five level.
Our experience and support of those 3 guys does not change the fact that the skill set necessary to become a successful head coach is not the same skill set that allows people to succeed as assistant coaches and coordinators.
I wish each of them good luck. I think that it would be highly unusual if more than one of them is successful as a head coach at the jobs they now hold.
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Orange Immortal [62739]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 10:50 PM
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Exactly why BV will succeed. He's no dummy. Tough to build from the ground up. They are already successful. BV to OKC is like Kirby to uga.
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Orange Blooded [4083]
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But Billy Napier is certainly redeeming himself
Feb 4, 2022, 5:57 PM
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He was too young to be an OC in a struggling offense here. But he did a great job at UL and is firing up a long-moribund recruiting program.
If you can simply keep Florida recruits home and lure a few stellar out-of-staters -UF is a picturesque spot in many hormonal senses- Gainesville could be a top-5 job.
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Standout [229]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 6:16 PM
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You also have to consider the school you're at and the reputation of that school as well. It is easier to recruit to Clemson than USF.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 6:52 PM
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With Miami, FSU, Florida, UCF, Florida International, and Florida Atlantic all right there, I'd imagine the competition is pretty fierce. Wish Jeff the best, but wish he would come back here.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 7:05 PM
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My guess is he would head to UVA or UO if needed as Clemson is full up unless it’s an analyst position
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CU Medallion [18163]
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He is an excellent judge of talent and he can coach WRs with
Feb 4, 2022, 7:18 PM
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the best of them, but he is apparently a poor closer
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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What ? ? ?***
Feb 5, 2022, 7:53 AM
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 8:10 PM
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He’s doing Dabo’s suggestion of using the portal.
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CU Medallion [18153]
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in his defense this is his first full year there
Feb 4, 2022, 9:00 PM
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2020 was such an odd year.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 4, 2022, 10:58 PM
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Without breaking the rules he has zero chance if making it there.
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Oculus Spirit [44342]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 5, 2022, 7:12 AM
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Anybody else remember that sorry bowl game against them in Charlotte. I believe Skip Holtz was coaching back then.
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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About 5 years ago, fanatics or somebody had the scoreboard
Feb 5, 2022, 7:47 AM
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sweatshirt from that game - the Meinike Car Care Bowl - for seriously $2 each & free shipping.
She bought like 7 of them.
She will have brand new ones for the rest of my life …… lol.
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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Ultimate Tiger [33236]
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So much bad info in this whole thread. I was at the USF NSD
Feb 5, 2022, 7:42 AM
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event - about 75 of us plus coaches and early enrollees.
Michael Kelly led off - the AD. There is ABSOLUTELY NO warmth on Jeff Scott’s seat AT ALL.
He’s got AT LEAST 3 more full years to get this thing going - and he will.
He is starting his 3rd year - if you count the insanity of the Covid year.
Charlie Strong was a complete program destroyer and we witnessed him first-hand run it under the dirt. He should have been let go at least a year earlier.
Jeff has the Dabo “it”. He will show improvement this year and then start rolling after that.
On the coaching staff - Daquan Bowers, Khalon Davis, Quandon Christian - spent a good bit of time talking with these guys. They know it is coming at USF - they all said it felt like the first 5 years under Dabo.
Also Xavier Dye - I didn’t get to talk with him.
New OC - Trent Trickett from FSU - dynamic guy - gonna be good.
New DC - Bob Shoop - some good credentials - not completely sold here.
CJS got Michael Dukes, Ray Thornton III, Ajou Ajou via portal from us.
The QB is GOOD - rising sophomore - lefthander - Timmy McClain - starter as a true freshman - made mistakes, but is dynamic - looked a lot better than our guy a lot of the time last year.
The culture is changing. Lots of family & faith-based talk from everyone. Only signed 1 on NSD - rest were all early enrollees - a huge help.
New locker room - I have been in it - it is first class. It’s off the outdoor practice. It has a small player’s lounge, but it is very nice.
Ground is way more than broken on a full-field indoor facility. It won’t be Clemson, but it will be close.
Next piece is on-campus stadium and that will start in the next 2 years.
Spent a lot of time talking to Jeff & Sara and Brad (he’s retiring after this year - joking says he is leaving the NIL stuff for Jeff to deal with) - they all love Tampa and realize this is their chance to become Dabo-esque legendary at a place they really like.
Like Dabo said about Clemson years ago - if they gonna get USF, they better get us now.
The community, the admin, the school is extremely confident in where this train is heading.
The event was amazing. So positive and forward-looking. Clemson and how we have done it and the example we are to college football must have come up specifically 50 times.
Made my wife & I extremely proud - from both a Clemson and USF perspective.
If they gonna get USF, dey better get us now.
G O T I G E R S ! G O B U L L S ! !
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Orange Elite [5204]
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I was / am surprised too.
Feb 5, 2022, 9:52 AM
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I loved Jeff while he was here ( I’ve probably met him the most out of any Clemson coaches ) and have wished nothing but the best for him. I was hoping he could really show out down there and use that as a jumping ship to a bigger program.
It just hasn’t clicked though. Hopefully it does this year and they can begin to get some momentum otherwise the pressure will crank up. Maybe some of these transfer’s from our program can make a difference for him.
I don’t want to “speak” it into existence but if he were let go after this year I would love to see him back here (I know we don’t have a open spot, and I’m not saying he should replace Streeter) but I hope something could be worked out. Maybe a offensive analysis until Streeter takes a HC job. I think almost every Tiger fan would be estatic to have a promote from within mentality if it meant Scott.
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110%er [6692]
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 5, 2022, 9:55 AM
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Yeah he is not going to make it there. He just can't get the players. Hopefully he does well enough to move to a better spot.
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Re: Jeff Scott is struggling in Recruiting at USF
Feb 5, 2022, 1:34 PM
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He's now gotta deal with Shanahan recruiting Florida. That's a tough position to be in.
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