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Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson
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Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:26 PM
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in their respective sport? I don't follow softball much. I know we are really freaking good, and will for sure watch the regionals.

A friend of mine said that she's likely the greatest of all time at Clemson in any sport. Would you say that's accurate?

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:29 PM
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no

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:29 PM
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Absolutely one of the best. There have been a lot of outstanding athletes at Clemson, so it's hard to put a best on any of them. But VC is right there at the top.

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My list would be...

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May 11, 2023, 12:30 PM
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Kahlil Greene and Trevor Lawrence

I can't think of anyone I would put ahead of those 2.

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Re: My list would be...

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May 11, 2023, 12:32 PM
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Michael Dean Perry. Literally unstoppable.

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Screw Calford.


Re: My list would be...

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May 11, 2023, 12:34 PM [ in reply to My list would be... ]
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DW4 > TL16

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: My list would be...

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May 11, 2023, 1:05 PM
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And then there is the ultimate multi-sport star: Banks McFadden!!!! Well before my time but surely a tough one to beat!

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Eh. I think Kahlil is probably the greatest of all time

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May 11, 2023, 1:35 PM [ in reply to Re: My list would be... ]
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in their respective sport at Clemson.

But, I think TL is barely ahead of DW4 from a total body of work standpoint. DW4 was great in the 4th quarter, but games were often in the 4th quarter due to some bad turnovers. TL just killed everybody.

But I still think Kahlil is probably the answer, although I haven't paid a ton of attention to softball. Sounds like Cagle is up there.

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Re: Eh. I think Kahlil is probably the greatest of all time

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May 11, 2023, 2:44 PM
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2016, we played by far the toughest schedule in the Swinney era. The ACC was extremely weak during Trevor's time here is why we killed everybody.

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Clemson doesn't care about basketball....as evidenced by Brown-L getting 14 years.


Re: My list would be...

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May 11, 2023, 1:09 PM [ in reply to My list would be... ]
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DW

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Trevor had 15 fewer interceptions. He gets

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May 11, 2023, 8:53 PM
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the slight edge.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:31 PM
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One of them---no question. But there have been soooo many great ones. The list is long. Hard to pick.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:38 PM
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Definitely up there. Make the statue.

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Yes

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May 11, 2023, 12:45 PM
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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 12:46 PM
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from a pure athletic standpoint, Murry Jarmin may have been the best athlete to play anything at Clemson.

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Definitely the best female athlete to play for Clemson.***

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May 11, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Barbara Kennedy-Dixon was pretty good too***

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May 11, 2023, 12:48 PM
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Nm

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Re: Definitely the best female athlete to play for Clemson.***

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May 11, 2023, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Definitely the best female athlete to play for Clemson.*** ]
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Brianna Rollins says hello too.

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Let me know when she makes the baseball team, because

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May 11, 2023, 12:59 PM
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that's not happening.

If it's solely contribution to a concerted effort, sheer weight regardless of overall athletic ability, then she probably deserves consideration.




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Frank Gillespie … football, baseball, basketball (track?)

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May 11, 2023, 1:22 PM
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Frank Howard was quoted as saying Frank Gillespie was his choice as the best who had played for him at Clemson in each of those sports.

This was admittedly after the career of Banks McFadden.

https://clemsontigers.com/remembering-frank-gillespie/


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franc1968's pater familias...

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May 11, 2023, 1:23 PM
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franc1968®

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 1:33 PM
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Yes, I would say that is accurate. We have had some great ones, but I can't think of any that does more for their team than she does. When she hit the 3 run bomb with 2 strikes and 2 outs in the last inning against SC solidified her place at the top imho. Like I said we have had some greats ones, TL, DW, Fuller, JD, Tree and on down the line, but tough to beat her.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 1:36 PM
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She really needs a strong post season to round out her legacy if she wants to be called greatest Clemson athlete ever. The fact she is so good pitching and hitting certainly makes her very special. But to my knowledge she hasn't faired so well when we've played elite teams, especially in post season.

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hard to leave off Sam Henson

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May 11, 2023, 2:06 PM
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71-0 as a wrestler and a couple of national titles. Geech72 brought this up in a similar thread in April.

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Re: hard to leave off Sam Henson

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May 11, 2023, 3:39 PM
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The post said each sport and Sam Henson is certainly in the 2 in men's wrestling. What the big guy's name? Noel Laban?

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Re: hard to leave off Sam Henson

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May 11, 2023, 6:51 PM
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Noel Loban . NCAA heavyweight champion!

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STOP IT!!!!!


May 11, 2023, 2:06 PM
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NO!!!!!

Deshaun did it in the big games, what has she done in the big games, she's been rather pedestrian in them is the answer.

Please, please stop, this absolute lunacy!

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Re: STOP IT!!!!!

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May 11, 2023, 2:25 PM
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Hard to keep the ball out of DW's hand when he gets it every play. She gets pitched around a lot in big games. Thats an indication of how dangerous she is at the plate. She also never gets drilled on the mound. She keeps it a 1 or 2 run game if she's in the circle. More than once the opposing team has intentionally walked in a run just to eliminate the chance of a multi RBI hit or grand slam. I can only think of two players I have ever seen get that much respect: VC and Barry Bonds, and one of those isn't on steroids.

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Bro, she’s not even in the top


May 12, 2023, 1:04 AM
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100 in Clemson history, that’s a fact! Banging softball HR’s against winless Citadel must be so awesome, haha!

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Re: Bro, she’s not even in the top


May 12, 2023, 12:44 PM
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Tell me you've never played a sport at the collegiate level without tell me you've never played at the collegiate level. I'd bet a paycheck you couldn't touch a pitch from the Citadel softball team. Haha. VC is easily in the top five greatest. The OP asked for the greatest in their respective sport. Had they had not, then it would be very hard to argue against Banks McFadden or Kyle Parker.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 3:37 PM
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Not much history in softball, but right now, yes.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 3:58 PM
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You are a very confused person.

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Re: Is Valerie Cagle the best athlete to ever play at Clemson

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May 11, 2023, 4:07 PM
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She’s incredibly good but ETN, CJ Spiller, Christian Wilkins, William Perry, woody dantzler, TERRELL MCINTYRE, Deshaun Watson, Banks McFadden, Trevor Lawrence, Mike Williams, Seth Beer, Big Dex, the Termite, Terry Allen, Nuk Hopkins, Perry Tuttle, Sammy Watkins, Trevor Pryce, Chester McGlockton, Michael Dean Perry & Brian Dawkins are all really incredible in their time too.

Forgot Levon Kirkland too! Charlie Waters too
Donnel Woolford & Gaines Adams!

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Probably should put Terry Kinard on that list too. National


May 11, 2023, 9:47 PM
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Defensive Player of the Year.

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May 11, 2023, 4:39 PM
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We've been blessed with some outstanding athletes over the years, so maybe we should be sure to include VC anytime we're listing all the Clemson greats. There's plenty of room at the Clemson GOAT table. Go Tigers!

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Deshaun Watson is #1 for me…


May 11, 2023, 8:18 PM
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CJ Spiller is #2. Kahlil Greene is probably #3.

I think it’s hard to say “He or She is the greatest of all time” when they are still playing. I think it takes time to look back and have a perspective. So I wouldn’t list her anywhere near the top. Now in five years maybe. I want to see how our softball program does after she’s been away from the program.

I have one knock against Valerie. How good has she been against GREAT competition? Something to think about.

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May 12, 2023, 6:05 AM
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Billy O’Dell

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May 12, 2023, 7:05 AM
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To be determined, but as far as most decorated athletes, two ACC POY, ACC freshman of year and a potential national player of the year. Be hard to find a more decorated Clemson athlete ever so I guess I say yes.

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May 12, 2023, 10:33 AM
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Not even close but she is a GREAT softball player and will set the standard going forward

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Roscoe Crosby - best athlete that wasted it


May 12, 2023, 11:02 AM
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He was great 5* WR, #3 ranked overall nationally. He was also drafted 3rd round by Royals. He played his freshman year and everyone knew he was a star in the making. He quit all sports and moved home after one semester never pursued sports again.

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