Re: Is the loss of Jeff Scott hurting our offense more than we thought?

since winning the national championship in 2018.

But as far as UGA, we tried all sorts of plays. (Some) runs, passes in the flat, short passes, medium range, and long passes, tight ends, rbs, and wrs etc.

We gave up on the run after getting just over a yard and a half per carry, and the passing game was more non-functional than the Tommy West days.

The OL got physically manhandled every down, and the QB was not mentally in the game. It's been discussed ad nauseum how the QB was too stationary in the pocket, he wasn't seeing the field, he couldn't let go of the ball when pressure was coming, and he wasn't tucking and running when needed.

The QB admitted this, and I'm positive anyone on the OL would own up to it as well if one was interviewed.

What I'm getting at is, we tried a variety of plays, and nothing worked due to the noted issues. Lack of execution was the issue.

To your point though, something has changed since the days of the, "3 headed monster" of playcalling. Dabo and Tony are getting away from the run too quickly, and we've lost pretty much all physicality in the running game. We haven't been getting any push or opening holes. Something MUST change if we want to return to the true elite.

I hope to see some dedication to the running game today. I would love to see us line up with the opening possession and pound it right at them. Dominate the line of scrimmage and bloody their nose. Establish this, and then worry about getting the passing game and DJ in rhythm.

My concern is though - we'll get 2 yards on our first carry then here comes the passing game with the running game moving to the back burner.

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You're trying too hard.

Sep 12, 2021, 4:03 PM

A weak attempt? You're ignoring the big picture. The big picture, again, is Clemson is the 2nd best program of the playoff era and we are in the BY FAR the best run in Clemson history.

Our last six games against top 5?

OSU: Win
LSU: Loss (no shame in losing to that team)
Notre Dame: Loss (starting QB was out)
Notre Dame: Win
OSU: Loss (Elliott did not coach)
UGA: Loss

I count 2-4.

Why are you trying to throw out what Elliott has done since 2015? He's the most consistent and successful tenured OC in college football for crying out loud.

Oklahoma: Win
Alabama: Loss
Notre Dame: Win
Alabama: Win
Alabama: Loss
OSU: Win
Alabama: Win

Two national championships are "weak"? It's "weak" to try and throw it out as irrelevant. Fan expectations have nothing to do with it. Name a more successful team not named Alabama. You can't.

That's 7-6 against top 5 since 2015. Find another team not named Alabama with that resume. You can't. And you can't just call using this data as, "weak". That in and of itself is "weak" attempt to deflect.

I'm not upset at any fans for wanting to win, but fans, who clearly don't understand what they're talking about and are quick to want to fire the same people who brought us this unprecedented success, are not reasonable. Aren't you a long-standing Clemson fan? Why can't you give credit where it's clearly due. You're trying too hard to shoot holes in the accomplishments.

Our main issue in the Clemson program right now is a decline in OL play and physicality. Not playcalling. If it weren't for playcalling, we wouldn't have been in the national championship in 2019, and we wouldn't have made the playoffs last year (see ACC championship). When the team has a functional QB and OL, we win. We win more than anyone not named Alabama. What else do you expect?

Following your sense of logic, the basketball staff should have been let go years ago. The buck begins and ends with the head coach. Period. The head coach has EVERYTHING he needs to win, and he's not even making playoffs let alone gaining many meaningful wins. How many tournament wins does he have? The administration has given him everything, and Clemson fans have shown time and time again they will support a good basketball program. You're using intangibles for a coach who just isn't getting it done. There are dozens of teams who succeed with far less. A solid coach wins in spite of whatever fluff you're saying we don't have. We've had successful basketball coaches with far less fluff in the program. The basketball staff is very well compensated, and giving them a 'billion' more dollars doesn't mean we get better coaching. Win on the big stage, and the money will come. Brad is paid very well for what he has accomplished. Money is not part of the equation.

It's not "laughable" at all to bring up your contradictory stances on football and basketball. You blame coaches in one sport but deflect from coaches in the other.

Dabo brought football up from mediocre or less to the 2nd best program in the country over the CFP era.

You are trying too hard to bring down the football program. Again, where we are right now is unprecedented. 2nd most successful program in America, and far and away the best run in program history. It's not even close! You should give credit where credit is due, and be willing to place appropriate and even blame on ALL coaches. Stop trying so hard to take pressure off basketball by jumping on a couple TOP FIVE football losses.

Again, being 2-4 in our last 6 games against top 5 is not where we want to be, but it's a level that 98% of teams in America would love to have.

It's not time to throw out the coaches who brought us here. We need the OL to come together and the QB to play up to his potential. If that happens, then playcalling will be look better. There are no magic plays that allow an OL or QB to succeed when the execution is just not there.

All I'm suggesting is patience. Let's see how the OL and QB progresses before wanting to call out coaches and make sweeping changes. They have earned that respect.

But if you're going to try and throw Coach X under the bus in football losses, then you have to place Coach Y under the bus for basketball losses as well. It all comes back on the coach.

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Is the loss of Jeff Scott hurting our offense more than we thought?

People tell me all the time he didn’t call any plays