Re: In general I don't like the idea of any subject being labeled

This sums up one of the big

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reasons I voted for Trump. He and the Pubs are working against this bullchit indoctrination of kids/youth. The left embraces ideas like calling out controversial topics such as Climate Change as closed/settled to eliminate discussion and debate. And why is the holocaust on the list? Do the lefties in Illinois now believe the holocaust was a hoax? IG: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIbtovIxv4X/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/reel/958536046361829/ Naperville is apparently fully woke. Here's an article about trans athletes competing there: https://abc7chicago.com/post/naperville-school-district-203-meeting-parents-debate-transgender-student-competing-middle-track-meet/16476170/

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In general I don't like the idea of any subject being labeled

Jun 4, 2025, 2:27 PM

As "We don't talk about it." I think that was a very poorly worded way to express what is, at it's heart, a pretty simple sentiment. We don't waste class time debating something for which there is no evidence. We don't debate if the holocaust happened (which, a person with half a brain would know is what was being said in the video, rather than some odd assertion that they were implying the holocaust didn't happen). We should (As a society) provide evidence and historical fact instead of leaving it open ended.

Now, we may disagree on climate change. I'm not a scientist, but folks whoa re and who know well more than me on the issue seem to have come to a large scale consensus on it. With that said in a science class geared toward the issue in a higher level schooling environment I don't think there's anything wrong (at all) with a true honest discussion of the issue.

What I do find interesting about this discussion is that it flips on it's head the right's advocacy not to discuss issues they seem uncomfortable with. (Don't discuss sexual preferences, or gender identities, or slavery, or racism, or other historical wrongs with the US).

I think that in proper context everything should be open and available for discussion. But just like we don't let little johnny argue "2+2=10" in math class, we do have to express that some things are genuinely considered true and axiomatic. The climate IS changing. People are gay. Slavery did happen. Context for all of those things certainly should be discussed and even allow for some honest debate... But at the point of open denial of known facts education becomes a farce.

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And though I disagree greatly with the notion that discussing gender and sexual orientation are somehow driven by "cr4eepy activist weirdos." I also find it odd that "activist" is sandwiched into your insult, as activism is a central tenant to impoving things (and there are certainly things that need ot be improved, though we may disagree what those things are).

But, I find an ounce of truth in your worry about some of the mental health issues arising in our children. While not issues of mental illness, I do imagine the current climate of stress and worry probably does lead to poor mental health environments. But, the answer to that is NOT to pretend the issues that are stressful do not exist... it's to provide solutions or at least tangible and articulable pathways forward.

Denying that a certain percentage of kids in the classroom are dealing with issues of gender identity and sexual orientation doesn't help those folks (and nor does acknowledging it harm the others).

Denying the climate is changing doesn't help them.

Denying that the fiscal outlook for the next generation is not as strong as it should be is NOT helping them.

If you care about the mental health of kids, you have to acknowledge they are smart enough to recognize the problems and issues in the world, and treat them as mature enough to handle a discussion of the issues and the paths forward.

This sums up one of the big

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not insane ... just grossly, grossly incompetent.***

That's just an opinion

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In general I don't like the idea of any subject being labeled

You think children are developing mental health issues by learning that

I do think there is a kernel of truth in what you're saying

Serious question:

if you want to see folks who think the holocaust is a hoax

You voted for this.

I appreciate that you've been groomed to fear the radical left

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