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Last season for Brad?
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Jan 23, 2023, 11:35 PM
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How many of you want the team to be bad enough that Coach gets fired this year?
Not last year. Not three years ago.
And Natty2023 make sure you mention he’s the 38th paid coach and only finished top 40 twice. It seems that’s all you know how to say. Still waiting on you to share an email from Judge to verify he’s on here with several names or is crazy as you said.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
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Jan 23, 2023, 11:58 PM
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12 years on this site and rushing to Judge Keller’s defense is what finally gets you all riled up? Interesting.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 12:44 PM
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Not an answer as usual.
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I don't want Clemson to be bad or lose anything
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Jan 24, 2023, 1:59 AM
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I want us to win national championships in everything. I hope Brad makes a deep run into the tournament and shows his new assistants can help coach better. Then we have a great nucleus returning and let's do it again next year.
I don't want us to lose. I don't dislike Brad one iota. I think he's a cool dude who's done everything right but win enough. If he can win more than he'll be achieving on a level more in line with his salary.
And since you asked:
1. We have an average national finish in the mid-70's during Brad's tenure.
2. Brad is the 38th highest paid coach in America, and in conjunction with point 1, he's led us to TWO top 40 finishes in 12 seasons. That's COMPLETELY unacceptable, especially considering the salary.
3. We've been to a play-in game with Purnells players and actually won one game. That's not technically a tournament win since it was in fact a play-in game that gave us the opportunity to get into the tournament field. We promptly lost. We've been to another tournament where Gabe DeVoe and the guards got hot. Sweet 16 finish and great season. Two tournament wins. We made the tournament one other time and failed in the 1st round. That's TWO (true) tournament wins in 12 years, both in one season.
Let's go Tigers!
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Legend [16269]
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Whenever I hear the play-in game argument, it reminds me of
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:05 AM
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all the Gamecocks saying that you couldn't count the 2008 victory over them as a Win in Dabo's column because he was only the interim coach at that point...When they expand the Tourney again, and they will, will it count then?
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Re: Whenever I hear the play-in game argument, it reminds me of
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Jan 24, 2023, 6:47 AM
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It doesn’t count for honest comparative purposes with any previous coaches because it didn’t exist prior to Brownell’s first season. Comparing NCAA tourney stats for coaches pre and post expansion to 64 teams is stupid. Ellis, Barnes, Shyatt, Purnell, and Brownell can be reasonably compared since they coached in the post 64 team era. Brownell’s appearance should count since he basically won his way into the field of 64. That victory does not earn equal footing with a round of 64 game. It’s not rocket science. And no, an appearance after the next major expansion will not be equal to an appearance before.
I’ve never heard anyone, ever say Dabo’s first victory doesn’t count. That’s stupid. And I thought you didn’t know anything about what Gamecocks said about things.
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Legend [16269]
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No, I said I'm not familiar with Gamecock Central, certainly
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:12 PM
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not as well versed as you...Never said I don't know any Gamecocks...Nice try at putting words in my mouth though
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Legend [17157]
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Re: No, I said I'm not familiar with Gamecock Central, certainly
Jan 24, 2023, 2:13 PM
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Yeah, another thing you would NEVER do.
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Legend [16269]
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77% of your votes are TDs and you just accused me of only
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:18 PM
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giving out TDs even though MY percentage is 8%...Hypocrite much? In addition to outright lying?
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Legend [17157]
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Re: 77% of your votes are TDs and you just accused me of only
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:21 PM
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I having no problem acknowledging that I give TDs. Relax Karen. It was a conversation between BBO and myself.
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Legend [16269]
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It doesn't matter WHO you were talking to, it still makes
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:25 PM
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you a hypocrite...in addition to being a liar...Can't believe that's what I drove you to, but you do get triggered rather easy apparently
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Re: Whenever I hear the play-in game argument, it reminds me of
Jan 24, 2023, 12:49 PM
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It’s called a “play-in” game because you’re playing to “get in” the tournament. So you think beating the 67th best Team in the country is something to be proud of? I want the basketball team to win as much as anybody, but the 12 seasons preceding this one, Brad has failed the test in most years.
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Re: Whenever I hear the play-in game argument, it reminds me of
Jan 29, 2023, 6:05 AM
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It’s called the First Four, which is part of a 68 team tournament.
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Re: I don't want Clemson to be bad or lose anything
Jan 29, 2023, 4:54 AM
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Can’t we all just be thankful and happy as hell that these mature players, led by Brad, are having a remarkable season? Period? It’s historic when compared to our checkered basketball history. I’ll bet Cliff Ellis would tip his hat. Let’s ask his opinion. ?
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Re: I don't want Clemson to be bad or lose anything
Jan 29, 2023, 4:54 AM
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Can’t we all just be thankful and happy as hell that these mature players, led by Brad, are having a remarkable season? Period? It’s historic when compared to our checkered basketball history. I’ll bet Cliff Ellis would tip his hat. Let’s ask his opinion. ?
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Re: I don't want Clemson to be bad or lose anything
Jan 29, 2023, 4:54 AM
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Can’t we all just be thankful and happy as hell that these mature players, led by Brad, are having a remarkable season? Period? It’s historic when compared to our checkered basketball history. I’ll bet Cliff Ellis would tip his hat. Let’s ask his opinion. ?
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Legend [16269]
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Do you know how many usernames Stanley has used in the
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:01 AM
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last 12 years? You don't have as many fingers and toes
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Oculus Spirit [77694]
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Alright, wait a minute now.
Jan 24, 2023, 2:04 AM
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You knew that was Stanley????
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Legend [16269]
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I thought it was Goat, or Just sayin' or Tigga***
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Oculus Spirit [77694]
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Any users we can laugh at recently?
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:10 AM
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PeppaTiger or Allorange246365?
Bruh.
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Legend [16269]
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Think of all the one's he's slipped by us...He used to get
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caught referencing the same College Football Data Warehouse poll...It was a dead giveaway
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Oculus Spirit [77694]
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Let's agree herein he dies at our hands.
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:43 AM
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Death to troll is the alliance. Agreed?
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Legend [16269]
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He's like a roach, the only thing standing after the Nuclear
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Jan 24, 2023, 3:31 AM
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Holocaust will be bugs and Stanley's new handle
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Re: Let's agree herein he dies at our hands.
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Jan 24, 2023, 8:25 AM
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Hate to tell you, but while you’re trying to play nice with “angry about his avatar guy”, he’s spamming you with downvotes while blocking you from doing the same.
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Oculus Spirit [77694]
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I probably deserve them, but I haven't seen any.***
Jan 24, 2023, 8:41 AM
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Legend [17157]
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Re: I probably deserve them, but I haven't seen any.***
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I was looking at his “awards given” column. He only gives out TDs apparently. And this most recent were a string of them to you. I do find the TD / TU to be a little glitchy. My points will jump but when I look at TUs received it’s only 1 or 2 more that I can see. I give out a lot of TDs but have been trying to make a more concerted effort to dole out TUs. I mostly ignored giving TUs because a lot of the posters I’m inclined to give them to are very entrenched with 100% pulses. Trying to be a more well rounded T-Netter. But some make it very difficult.
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Oculus Spirit [77694]
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Right on.
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Jan 24, 2023, 1:28 PM
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Attempting the same myself. I'll call it an effort at personal growth.
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Legend [16269]
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Feel free to check my TD list, of the 16 I have handed out,
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:08 PM
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you are nowhere to be seen, CoachViz is obviously lying because he got his feelings hurt, but it's pretty easy to fact check his BS...He even told you how
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Legend [17157]
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Re: Feel free to check my TD list, of the 16 I have handed out,
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:13 PM
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There are obviously some glitches in the system because the 16 TDs are to 51 posts if you click on it. Perhaps it’s just another mistake in the mobile coding like your avatar being broken. I’m not gonna stay up all night rage typing about it though. Take a pill.
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Legend [16269]
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You're lying, show me the string of recent TDs that you said
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:16 PM
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I gave him Liar...Should be easy enough, you "saw" them right?
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Re: You're lying, show me the string of recent TDs that you said
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You really don’t stop. I was looking right at them when I made the comment to BBO. It might have been a glitch. Who knows. There are current at least 36 TDs you’ve given not visible when I click on your awards given. It’s not that big a deal.
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Legend [16269]
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So you can't prove it Liar? Odd how it glitches NOW that you
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:27 PM
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got called on it, but but but they were ALL there before? Right? Riiiiiiight
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Re: So you can't prove it Liar? Odd how it glitches NOW that you
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I am officially disengaging. You seem like this is completely unhealthy for you and I don’t need to be party to that. Just as a final word. I haven’t lied about anything. Period. Enjoy your life.
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Legend [16269]
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Yeah, if I got caught in a BLATANT lie, I would "disengage"
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Jan 24, 2023, 2:38 PM
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too...Particularly if I had been handing out TDs at a 77% clip and accused an 8% of ONLY handing out TDs...Best part is that it's ALL here for EVERYBODY to see...A Liar AND a Hypocrite...Who would have thought
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Legend [16269]
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I can't believe a guy who gives out 77% of his votes as TDs
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would accuse a guy who only gives out 8% of only handing out TDs...Talk about hypocrisy...77% is as high as Snoop Dogg, you've got to be in the Top 10 of TDers on all of Tigernet...Maybe Top 5...Wow...Just Wow
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I've never wanted Clemson to lose at anything, ever.
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:57 AM
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That's not something a Clemson man would do.
I would have fired Brad five years ago. He's been a utility but a poor one. Clemson can do better.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
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Jan 24, 2023, 7:28 AM
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Why even start this thread? There is little clamor for his job, as in previous years. It’s quite evident that this season’s results removes him from the precarious “hot seat” position (barring a complete meltdown).
We still need to see better high school recruiting, and hopefully a nice tournament run will draw the sort of positive attention the program needs.
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I have been as critical of Brad as anyone
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However, I am really enjoying the season we are having and acknowledge that he has done a great job with this team. I don’t know that I would give him a contract extension this season, but he has earned reprieve from our fan base.
Sit back and enjoy the season we are having. Lord knows we have earned it, well the ones who support the program, and support our coach.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 7:33 AM
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Y'all need to get out of Grandma's basement and get some fresh air and sunshine once in awhile........
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 8:13 AM
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This is not Brad’s last season unless he has a terminal illness or decides to go somewhere else or retire.
No true fan would pull for Clemson to lose.
Good grief enjoy this season.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
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Last season should have been his last. He got lucky this year and though I’m happy for the teams success, I am disappointed the program will be further delayed in its future success when he finally does leave. He has done everything he can do and showed the type of coach he is. Good guy. Good coach. Can get lucky and have a good run once every few years, but doesn’t know how to win consistently and can’t finish the big games. Absolutely ZERO reason to be knocked out of the ACC tournament in the first round almost every year.
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Clemson Will Be Lucky
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if they are able to retain Coach Brad Brownell after this season. He will get an extension from Clemson or another school will come hire him and give him the respect he deserves.
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Re: Clemson Will Be Lucky
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Lol. Yes, lots of top programs come for the guys with a 1:13 history of success. Far more likely that Donlon gets the credit and is scooped back up.
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 12:42 PM
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Realistically, with the way the season has played out so far, BB should not be fired and he should not be extended. If we make the tournament this year, that will be 3 of the last 5 years and that will take the pressure off Neff to do anything this year. BB still has 3 years left on his last extension so there is no rush to do anything with his contract right now. That decision can be made down the road in a couple of years and based on what happens between now and then.
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You can't leave a coach with only 3 years left
Jan 24, 2023, 12:45 PM
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on his contract.
He would have to be extended to give him at least 4 years left on his contract. That's essential for recruiting.
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Re: You can't leave a coach with only 3 years left
Jan 24, 2023, 12:49 PM
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is it? or is that what agents have convinced athletic directors?
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Re: You can't leave a coach with only 3 years left
Jan 24, 2023, 12:51 PM
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I could see it maybe happening after next season but I certainly don't see it happening after this one unless we make a deep run in the tournament and he becomes a target to leave for another program.
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Re: You can't leave a coach with only 3 years left
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The reality is that for the 2023 recruiting class (for which signing day has already passed) Brad will, under the current contract, have only 3 years left when those recruits enroll. If it wasn't a concern for the 2023 recruiting class, why should it be going forward?
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Re: You can't leave a coach with only 3 years left
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I agree, I don't think it is. Recruits know coaches don't have that much control over how long they are with a program. Even with an extension, he can still be let go with a buyout. Heck, these days, the players don't even know how long they will stick around.
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So you wouldn't have a problem with Dabo having less
Jan 24, 2023, 1:10 PM
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Re: So you wouldn't have a problem with Dabo having less
Jan 24, 2023, 1:25 PM
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I honestly wouldn't because if the results are there, the extensions will come. And with how players are moving around in football, I just don't see it being that big of a deal. The priorities have definitely changed when it comes to recruiting.
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Re: So you wouldn't have a problem with Dabo having less
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And really, the extensions tend to be more because you want to lock in a successful coach for a period of time rather than because of recruiting.
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You're right, some people here do seem to be
Jan 24, 2023, 1:06 PM
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upset or disappointed that we are doing so well this year, because they decided years ago that they didn't want Brad as our coach and were ready for someone else.
Brad will likely get an extension after the season, a season which will be our third NCAA Tournament out of the last 5. This will cause most of those fans to be quite disappointed.
The reality is that he is paid fairly. His most recent contract came after our last NCAA Tournament appearance in 2021, when we were the 28th seed nationally for the NCAA Tournament and had a program record number of wins over teams who made the NCAA Tournament.
He wasn't paid in the top 40 until then, so it's not like we've been paying him like a top 40 coach his entire career here.
Last year was a disappointing year, but this year is notable for a record start to ACC play like we have never seen before at Clemson. That should be celebrated! This is supposed to be fun!
Dating back to 2017, we have the fifth most wins in the ACC. That's 5th out of 15 schools. That's top third of the conference. Many consider that the upper echelon of the ACC. That is an outstanding accomplishment, especially for Clemson basketball.
I don't see Natty2023's posts, because I ignore him, but I have never contacted him. I certainly haven't said that I have multiple usernames here, because I don't have any other usernames. There is no email from me.
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Re: You're right, some people here do seem to be
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"This is supposed to be fun!"
and therein lies the problem. It is supposed to be. If someone would let Eeyore know to take off the powder blue sweatsuit and bring a little excitement more that 25% of the time we might be ready to believe that his 13th season isn't just some unholy bad luck juju on us actual fans who care about Clemson basketball and aren't nearly as interested in the rising value of Brownell's personal financial statement.
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She's as phony as a four dollar bill.
Jan 24, 2023, 4:21 PM
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That's why most of the site would like to see her trolling nonsense banned.
Her defenseless defending of the basketball program is one thing, but her constant attempts to bring football and everything else Clemson down to that level is pure unadulterated trolling, which is obviously supposed to be against the rules.
"It's supposed to be fun", she says. It obvious she gets her jollies from trolling the better programs at Clemson.
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Legend [18203]
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 2:58 PM
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I want Brad and the team to do awesome this year.
Reach an elite eight. Better programs come calling and Brad can go to where he is appreciated.
And then all the anti Brad folks can put their plans in motion.
Very interested in who they hire.
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Letterman [299]
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Re: Last season for Brad?
Jan 24, 2023, 3:28 PM
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This year has been decent for the Men's Team. Top 20. Top of the ACC. Can't really argue with those stats.
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