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I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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Apr 2, 2025, 7:59 AM
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I also think it may not matter anymore.
Anybody who doesn't think Russia did not have Donald by the short hairs is, sorry, either a slavish partisan or someone who hasn't done the math. Donald went bankrupt four times in the '90's and Western banks would no longer lend to him, so he travelled to Russia, and almost instantly was able to secure a $300+ million loan from Deutsche Bank's private side, which was astounding because he'd defaulted on a $45 million loan from their public side just a few years earlier...and then sued the bank. Clearly Donald had significant backers in Russia, which means "oligarchs" because in 1990's Russia (and even today, actually) they were the ones with the money. These guys had won the knife fights for carving up the various public institutions in post-Soviet Russia like Gazprom and Aeroflot, and were now looking to stash their ill-gotten gains in Western banks...usually illegally. Laundering Russian assets was an immense multi-billion-dollar cottage industry at the time and it came out in 2018 Deutsche Bank's private side had a huge hand in the so-called "Global Laundromat", and even Don Junior told a reporter in 2014 that Donald now had access to "infinite funds" from Russia. And Donald's once-struggling and wildly overpriced properties, which native New Yorkers increasingly wouldn't touch with a fork, began to fill up with Russian oligarchs, international arms dealers, and Saudi oil sheiks...even though a shocking number of these (more than a third, apparently) were never occupied by their owners. Then again, flip properties often aren't intended to be used as homes...but as assets.
A reporter from the (conservative-leaning despite its name) Tallahassee Democrat told me around then that it was pretty much an open secret in Florida's journalism world that Donald was almost certainly money laundering for the Russians using all the old classic standbys, namely "flips" for overpriced real estate and all-cash businesses like casinos, hotels, and golf courses. (Anybody who ever watched Ozark can tell you how that game works...and Donald's easily "launderable" business interests were of a scale that Marty never even aspired to.)
Putin was also old-school KGB. Specifically, he was First Directorate - their foreign intelligence division - and operated out of Dresden, Germany, working with the Stasi - East Germany's secret police, who were savage even by secret police standards - recruiting insurgents for violent far-left organizations in Europe like the Red Army Faction (which spun off into Antifa here in the US...yes, Putin had a hand in starting Antifa!) and the Red Brigades. Compromising people was what the KGB did...and indeed the "Kremlin Papers" leak in 2021 that appeared when verified Russian documents were published by The Guardian confirmed that Putin had indeed aided Trump's presidential run in 2016...and had "kompromat" - compromising material - on Donald. And Donald's behavior during his first term regarding Russia and Putin is now a matter of record.
But that was then, and this is now. And now that Donald has solidified his hold on both the GOP Congress and stuffed the DOJ with his own loyalists, and his MAGA base has coalesced into a cult of personality that would have made Jim Jones wince in envy, I wonder: does any leverage Putin has on Donald even matter anymore? Because 2025 again-president Donald has access to billions-plus revenue sources completely independent of his once-overwhelming loans, and Trump 47's Congress won't impeach him and his DOJ won't prosecute him for anything either, period, no matter what evidence the Kremlin might think to leak. And in this era of deepfakes even the most compromising pee tape imaginable can be denied and frankly, MAGA wouldn't care if it was real anyway. So if Putin thinks he has Donald on a leash, he may discover that Donald has now chewed through it...and Donald Trump is 100% a transactional and fickle creature loyal to no one. It may also have occurred to him just how many domestic institutions and Western and Pacific Rim powers with the means now have powerful motive to remove him by any means necessary; my own belief is, if Donald doesn't change course and quickly he'll be dead within the year. Power defends itself - always.
And while he has no love for Zelenskyy - clearly! - Putin is also now making him look bad. Not only has Putin bargained with the US in complete bad faith regarding Ukraine, Donald also thought he had a hold on civilian-infrastructure attacks arranged with Putin...which Putin then broke just three hours later.
I'm not sure how this ends. But I also don't think Putin knows either. And the only things you can reliably say about Donald Trump is, he is consistently unreliable...and he hates looking bad. And his ire towards Russia appears to be growing. And I ran across this today and found this...interesting. We have certainly never heard these kind of rumbles from Trumpworld before.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/finland-s-president-i-just-met-donald-trump-russia-is-running-out-of-time/ar-AA1C4mSY
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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Apr 2, 2025, 8:00 AM
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russia russia russia
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It's obvious, but to a crowd that loves dictators, they don't care.***
Apr 2, 2025, 8:01 AM
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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Apr 2, 2025, 8:02 AM
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Get a new line. That one is OLD.
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
Apr 2, 2025, 8:02 AM
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That's too long. I read the first part. Anyway, I would have no idea if they have anything on him. I have my doubts. I was thinking he just favors them due to business. Who knows?
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LSS.....
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Apr 2, 2025, 8:24 AM
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When Trump went bankrupt, multiple times in the 1990's, he obtained loans from unknown sources (NOT normal banks or lenders). Many speculate it was from Russians and Russian oligarchs. In return, Trump helped them launder money using his NYC properties. At one time, Trump had 78 apartments in a building of 100 all rented to people with Russian names, and all were vacant.
Anyway......that's our President.
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Re: LSS.....
Apr 2, 2025, 8:49 AM
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I definitely think that happened. I have always thought that has likely happened.
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Re: LSS.....
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Apr 2, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Sheeze. I hadn't heard that one.
I just moved to South Dakota from Detroit last month. Apparently the state does a shocking amount of international banking, kinda weird considering Sioux Falls is maybe 200K people - it feels like a village compared to Detroit! - and the rest of the town is almost entirely agricultural concerns; the biggest businesses around here are fertilizer producers and tractor and farm-equipment dealerships. But it's pretty much an open secret here that South Dakota is the undisputed money-laundering capital of the Midwest. Apparently the state has some gaping holes in dynasty and perpetual trust laws and it's nearly impossible for creditors or even courts to access assets in them. South Dakota trusts are also are not required to file public information, there's no income or capital gains tax, and there's no legal obligation to report foreign trust beneficiaries to federal agencies.
So there's apparently a cottage industry here of over 100 trust companies that actively court international clients. The Tallahassee girl who told me about the Florida laundering stuff said Donald was up to his eyeballs with that stuff not just in regards to his Florida golf courses but blind trusts as well.
Andrew Weissman - who was Mueller's attack dog during the Special Counsel investigation of Donald in 2016 - was publicly fuming about all that himself because he wasn't allowed to go after Donald's finances either. It makes you wonder who else might have had their fingers in those pies.
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Re: LSS.....
Apr 2, 2025, 9:25 AM
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How do you like it there?
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Re: LSS.....
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Apr 2, 2025, 10:13 AM
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Mixed. It's cold as #$^%. It snowed again here last night. I lived in Wisconsin back when I was a kid, as well as the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan...and South Dakota is every bit as cold if not worse. We were also in a hurry to get moved because the company had the moving company coming in like, a week at that point, and so we never came out here; instead we did a video tour of some rental properties we were interested in including this really awesome old Victorian that was built in 1923. My wife loves old houses, and this one was very nice (and shockingly cheap, which should have been a red-flag), and within just a few blocks of downtown, including that really nice Falls Park that seems to be the only picture of Sioux Falls anyone ever takes, and which admittedly does make the one with the same name in Greenville look kind of precious.
Turned out the house was vacant because it was right across the street from one of the local halfway houses in town, and our so-helpful real estate agent seems to have forgotten to point the camera in that direction when he was doing the exterior tour. So there's something like 70 "rehabilitating" former cons living just across the street from us. Fortunately they're in lockdown after 9pm (or they're back in jail!) and I'm a Very Big Dude who still has a decent Mean Bouncer stare; I've had to use it more than a couple of times already. And we already survived Detroit and Toledo - which actually was way worse, Detroit's cleaning up these days. whereas Toledo is still 90% hood - and I've got a couple of shotties loaded with #4 Buck close to hand. If someone decides to relapse they're not going to have a good day. It definitely makes for Not Boring neighbors - there was a hunt for a stolen Harley that mysteriously appeared on our street a couple days ago - and the non-criminals around us are fairly hardcore; our next-door neighbors on one side are TSA agents and armed to the teeth themselves. No one has cared to test them either, and they've been here 16 years.
But other than a couple of bad spots in town and this giant trailer park down near the river, the town itself is really well-kept and well-run...and the traffic is, like, absolutely precious compared to Detroit. I keep looking around when I jump on the 229 that loops around the town because the road is usually so wide-open it just feels wrong, and your mind just rejects that there could be that few cars on a major highway because it's never seen it before. Downtown is great, ton of great restaurants and bars, free parking on weekends and most weeknights, a ton to do.
The downside is - except for Sioux City (which is in Iowa maybe an hour south of Sioux Falls, South Dakota...I know, confusing) there is nothing within four hours of here and I cannot emphasize enough how spectacularly boring Iowa is. I'm really eager for it to warm up, though, because I'm dying to take some road trips to the western part of the state because there's some stuff there - the Black Hills, Deadwood, Badlands National Park - that I really want to see. There's also this underground physics lab in an old gold mine that does dark matter experiments and suchlike and because I'm a tech geek I'm dying to get in there too.
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Re: LSS.....
Apr 2, 2025, 10:33 AM
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Wow...that's wild. Anyway to get out of that lease? That's crazy.
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Apr 2, 2025, 11:44 AM
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Meh. Honestly, I'm a lot less worried than I ever was in Toledo. It only runs 15 months, and we may buy before then if we find the right situation.
Toledo's got just about the worst case of White Flight I've ever seen. Most of the white folks fled to the surrounding suburbs way back when US Steel went under and automotive collapsed here in the US and built some nice little towns like Ottawa Hills, Rossford, Maumee, and Perrysburg; the city of Toledo itself is one of the worst he!!holes I've ever seen excepting some safe zones like the U of T, Old Orchard, and the Old West end, which includes this incredible art museum that's one of the best I've ever been in.
We lived in the Old West End, in a beautifully restored 5,200-square foot Victorian we were able to lease for $1500 a month. The neighborhood is absolutely amazing, like something out of a postcard straight out of old Americana, without question one of the coolest places I've ever seen, much less lived. Everybody there zipped around in golf carts and it was one big party weekends during the summer. But Holy Mother was it the Wild West (or South Central LA!) just 3-4 blocks away. We had one guy running from the cops crash his car just down the street from us, run literally across our front yard, who then ended up getting shot to death by the police in the parking lot of the Rally Burger a few blocks away. The first July 4th I was there, there was a massive fireworks display going up from everywhere around us, sounded like WW3; they love them some fireworks in Toledo. I remember I made a joke that if you were going to have a gang war, now's the time, because no one would ever know.
Well, I thought it was a joke. Turned out that less than a mile away, there was indeed a gang war literally going on. Some July 4th block party ended up turning into Bloods v. Cripps or some such, and apparently there was so much pew-pew the cops were weeks sorting the whole mess out as to who did what to who.
Amazing place, like I said. And one of the most godawful places too. You want to see the dichotomy, watch the first minute or so then jump to about the 51:35 mark of this video (actually I'd recommend watching the whole thing, and I know a lot of the folks in it, but who's got an hour?), and do the TLDR highlights...it's one of the most jarring contrasts between neighborhood lines I have ever seen, or probably that exists in America. https://www.wgte.org/television/local-programs/magic-of-the-old-west-end
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My Grandparents immigrated to Toledo
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Apr 2, 2025, 12:02 PM
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after World War One. They went from the clothes on their back to owning a successful business and sending 2 daughters to the University of FLorida. In the 50's, they bought a house in Sarasota for 7k, The last time I looked it was worth 1/2 a million. That was the American dream in action, I imagine Toledo stands in stark contrast to that now.
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That's interesting stuff. On a side note, do you plan on staying South Dakota possibly for good?
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Apr 2, 2025, 2:43 PM
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Absolutely no. Sioux Falls is a pleasant enough little city, not a bad place to live at all...but I'd be bored to tears with more than a couple years here.
I might change my mind when I see the West side of the state but I doubt it. I'm personally eyeing either the Great Lakes - I really love the Wisconsin side down from Green Bay until about Milwaukee (not a fan!), or Western Michigan, probably Holland - that area's beautiful. Or the Rockies in Colorado, especially up around Fort Collins.
Climate is going to be a big consideration. We all like to whistle past the graveyard but the crisis is coming and Donald's all-out assault on all things green is going to make it come sooner...and worse. That hurricane that destroyed Asheville was a canary in the coal mine if ever there was one. I'm looking for areas that are relatively weatherpoof and aren't just worth living in but would be slightly better if warmed up just a hair, and have plenty of fresh water since that's about to become a big thing in multiple regions throughout the world...including the US. (You should see what's happening to Northern China, it's bad.)
Then again, when opportunity knocks, you go...and we absolutely may not control where that opportunity comes from. So right now we're just sort of surfing from opportunity to opportunity and it's a little shocking how easy it is to make far better money if you just get light and get mobile and are willing to go to wherever the bucks happen to be at the moment.
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On the money laundering......
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Apr 2, 2025, 8:17 AM
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Of all the stuff I've seen about Trump, the one thing that amazes me was that as much as he was investigated by the NSA, FBI, CIA, whatever before the 2016 election, they never really investigated Trump, the entire man and his history, just his current dealings with anything Russian.
For example ,as you say, he likely was bailed out of bankruptcy in the 1990's by Russian oligarchs. But where's the proof? FBI should have had that front and center when the libs were railing against him in 2016. Proof, in the past, he was compromised, and may still be? But no, they never went back into Trump's history. For example, on money laundering, at one time Trump owned some building in NYC and 78 of the roughly 100 apartments in the building were rented to Russians, and were vacant. Now if that was known, how was he not investigated for money laundering?
I think the answer lies in his use of LLC's, blind trusts, and other instruments to obscure ownership and involvement. This came into play when he was convicted and the state of NY tried to identify his assets. The law that Biden and Congress passed that Trump has nixed, that demands ownership of LLC's to be reported to the IRS, yeah that's a massive loophole to protect the rich, and Trump used it his whole life. I've run into this several times investigating insurance claims. House being built, owned by an LLC. Look up the LLC, registered agent is some lawyer. Call lawyer he tells you to pound sand. Tax records show the LLC owns it. Deed shows LLC owns it. LLC is basically a lawyer's office and a lawyer paid to do nothing other than to protect the LLC owner's identity.
Funny thing, I consider myself a decent investigator, but evidently better than the FBI which is shocking, because in all four insurance claims, involving billionaires (2 out of the 4 anyway) hiding behind LLC's, I found the owner. Nothing better than calling the "pound sand" lawyer back and asking him to set up a meeting with his client, and give the client's name and home address, and then you can just hear the mental cussing in the silence on that phone line. Because at this point, the lawyer knows he will have to set up an interview, or be subpoenaed and sued, as will his client who is no longer protected or anonymous.
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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Apr 2, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Somebody has been in a coma for nine years. Had to roll out the 2016 talking points.
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Another example^^ of a MAGA who can't refute the claim through argument...
Apr 2, 2025, 12:10 PM
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...who is unable to provide a valid response to the original question, and who instead makes an unrelated comment about the poster themselves instead of offering any legitimate critical thought toward the issue that was presented.
"Somebody had to roll out the 2016 talking points" offers zero counterargument to the original point.
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
Apr 2, 2025, 8:47 AM
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If what you say is true and you’ve figured it out, why hasn’t federal law enforcement figured it out and locked him up?
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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Apr 2, 2025, 9:02 AM
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This (link below) is a direct violation of the United States Constitution, not that that is important anymore, but anyway.... More importantly, it is also the reason Trump has never been prosecuted. Anonymous LLC's are the #1 enabler of money laundering in the US, and our real estate market is more than happy to take the money of Russian oligarchs, Colombian drug lords, and whoever else, and turn it into prime real estate all over NYC and Miami, and other places. A law was proposed, passed by Congress, and signed by a sitting President, that was intended to put an end to the practice. Instead, America elected a crook who had benefited from mney laundering and hiding behind LLC's for decades. So he just refuses to enforce the law.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0038
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Re: I absolutely think Russia has "kompromat" on Donald
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First time he went to Moscow was 1987 with his first wife via a program used to lure young American businessmen to Russian in order to groom them as intel gatherers.
That’s where he got the name Krasnov, supposedly, which is what is documented in his case file according to former KGB dood.
These stories are too old though to be reliable, so any extraordinary claim has to have extraordinary evidence. This was pre-digital, so most of that stuff if it existed has likely disappeared.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/13/fact-checking-online-claims-that-donald-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb-as-krasnov
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