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How does the Left commandeer the FBI


Posted: May 5, 2021, 5:47 PM
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This seems to be a narrative among Trumpkins that the left has some how taken control of and "weaponized" the FBI against conservatives. So how exactly were they able to pull this off on a "law and order" organization that has 35000 employees?


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Posted: May 5, 2021, 5:51 PM
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FBLie

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 5:51 PM
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So you got nada. NEXT

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 6:14 PM
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I mean there were only 17 errors in the application for the FISA warrant that was used to spy on Carter Page. I will direct you to the testimony of Andrew Mccabe (former Deputy Director of the FBI) and Sally Yates (acting AG for a time) to the senate intelligence committee. Their testimony was da m ning to the leadership of the FBI. I will direct you to the da mning text messages between Strzok and Page.


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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:17 PM
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How does the left commandeer a law enforcement agency of 35000 employees? I thought the blue were a bunch of conservatives. Please answer the question.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:20 PM
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mostly with Starbucks gift cards, that's how the indoctrination starts anyway.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:29 PM
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I just gave you some specific answers and places to look. But perhaps you and I should talk after your bat mitzvah. I'll wait.


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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:36 PM
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You gave no specific answers. The idea that the Left can take control of a law enforcement organization of 35000 is completely laughable. I'm asking for how they were able to pull this off. So far, you guys have failed to put forth a reasonable argument.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:55 PM
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Why would you be so silly to think that you have to influence 35,000 people in the organization for the FBI to act in a political manner?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:58 PM
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how do you corrupt a law enforcement organization of 35000 people. I'm waiting for logistics on how this is possible.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:00 PM
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what makes you think FBI agents bring politics to work? You are talking about a bunch of straight-laced do-gooders that are bent on rules, policies, and procedures.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:05 PM
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I don't know about individual agents, but we know for a fact that the FBI leadership acted in a political and most likely corrupt manner on multiple occasions over the last 5 years. The FBI has a fairly long history of corruption at the top. They tried to blackmail Kennedy.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:09 PM
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Yes, and Nixon used them to spy on his political opponents. Things have changed a lot in the last 50 years, and J Edgar died a long time ago..

as far as the last 5 years, can't say I have been paying much attention. What corruption are we referring to, James Comey attempting to protect Trump from himself and getting fired over it?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:16 PM
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The Deputy director admitted to spying (obviously he didn't use those word) on a member of the Trump campaign with a FISA warrant that was obtained through lies. The Director of the FBI went to congress months before an election and warned them about one of the candidates, and had no formal charges. That is acting in a political manner.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:22 PM
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The claim is that the FBI has been weaponized by the left to pick on conservatives. How does this work? How does the left take control of a law enforcement agency? Conservatives claim that law enforcement sides with them. And who was in the White House from 2016-2020? You guys have lots of explaining to do.


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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:59 PM
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I am not saying that is not serious, but that is not department-wide corruption. By and large, the FBI is more or less incorruptible. There are too many measures in place, and they ain't gonna risk that cushy federal pension and salary. They worked too hard to get those positions to just throw them away.

As far as corruption at the leadership levels, I guess that is to be expected to some degree.. IDK..

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:17 PM
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Why do you just post passive aggressive strawman questions that

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:22 PM
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You seem to think are “gotchas”, and then duck any actual discussion? Moreover, Trump’s been gone for 5 months. Why does he still consume more of your posts than not?

It’s a free country and all so by all means, continue if you wish, I just don’t see how it would be very enjoyable to post this way for long. Try talking with people instead of at them.

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Re: Why do you just post passive aggressive strawman questions that


Posted: May 5, 2021, 7:45 PM
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Ducking actual discussion? I'm challenging unsubstantiated claims on this board. If you would like to answer the OP, then please step up and defend the narrative. Otherwise, NEXT.

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Might you be so kind as to show me said claims?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:33 PM
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More relevantly, said claims made any time in the last month or two?

Otherwise, NEXT.

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Re: Might you be so kind as to show me said claims?


Posted: May 5, 2021, 10:40 PM
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The claim was made in the Liz Cheney thread by ClemsonPoker489



Posted: May 5, 2021, 6:48 AM
Becau­se the FBI has been weaponized against enemies of the leftist regime. Much like the IRS under Obama, but with guns.

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To Obed's point, then, it seems like you could just ask


Posted: May 6, 2021, 11:37 AM
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ClemsonPoker489, since his comment is your evidence, and he's a poster on this board.

Ahem...

ClemsonPoker489® , BirminghamTiger wanted to learn more about why you think the FBI has been "weaponized" by the "Leftist regime" against its "enemies".

Thanks!

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Correct. The strawman question is to win an imaginary

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:53 PM
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debate without ever actually stating a position. One doesn't have to show how a thing happened to demonstrate that it did. 'How' would indeed be an interesting thing to know. That it did happen is simply historical fact. Nothing clever about the question.

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Eh, not really that strawmanish


Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:33 AM
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Someone made this exact claim in a previous thread today and others have also claimed the FBI has been commandeered by the left.

This claim has been made here.

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Are there factions of the left in the FBI? You bet.


Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:39 AM
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Commandeered? Like every single person in the FBI being led in a singular direction by a ideology or party, and following blindly, regardless of the agent's own party affiliation or ideology? That's straight hyperbole.

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Re: Are there factions of the left in the FBI? You bet.


Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:41 AM
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What Factions of the FBI are run by the left, possibly the crime lab, and Scully and Mulder? Cause I know the field agents are mostly red-blooded, gun-totin' Republicans. I have no proof of this, I just know it is true.

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Who said "run by"? Guided by is a better term.


Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:50 AM
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You gonna argue that Strzok wasn't more guided by his ideology than his oath? Good grief, that's happened ample times, going back to J. Edgar Hoover. And as I alluded in my original post on the topic, it happens on both sides.

If you're led by the nose on your party/ideological loyalty, then it makes sense that the direction those reporting to you take will follow that way too until you go too far or in a direction they fundamentally disagree with.

To act like the FBI is just a wholesale wing of either party is just plain silly.

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:56 AM
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I honestly have not been paying attention to the news, I just wanted to throw an Xfiles reference out there. And it is entirely possible that liberals run the crime lab cause they are likely a bunch of nerds that don't get to carry guns and believe in science. I like making generalisations too, since that is what this entire thread is based n.

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Re: Are there factions of the left in the FBI? You bet.


Posted: May 6, 2021, 7:27 AM
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I absolutely agree that's hyperbole, but take that up with the people here who believe it.This is one of those conundrums of, "Government is incompetent!" but also "Government is sinister and organized enough to pull off this conspiracy!"

Which factions of the left are in the FBI, specifically?

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Re: Are there factions of the left in the FBI? You bet.


Posted: May 6, 2021, 8:15 AM
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https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/who-said-run-by--guided-by-is-a-better-term-28922232


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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:01 PM
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Because those 35K employees answer to politically appointed a##wipes at the top. You know, lying f#cksticks like Brennen and Clapper and Wray. Isn't amazing that if you tell one fib to the FBI you go to jail, but they can lie to you all day with impunity?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:06 PM
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So how did the left get those guys to comply with being weaponized to pick on conservatives? I'll wait.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:08 PM
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Comply or get fired.

There. You didn't have to wait long.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 8:10 PM
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Brennan and Clapper left office in 2017, and did not even work for the FBI. Wray was appointed by who? You got anything better?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 9:38 PM
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Which one was it that cited all the crimes Hillary committed then said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges? Comey? Rosenstein? So many swamp creatures it's hard to tell them apart.

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 9:55 PM
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You haven't provided any insight as to how the left could pull off corrupting a 35000 person law enforcement agency. How about a timeline. How about logistics. What methods were used to turn "the blue" against the Conservatives. All I'm hearing is Blah Blah Blah. And why did this happen under the "President of Law and Order"?

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 9:56 PM
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Still NADA. NEXT

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Posted: May 5, 2021, 10:06 PM
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They never charged Richard Jewell, his name got leaked to the media.

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 10:48 AM
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They like job stability and big fat pensions ... you think otherwise?

My god man, they have texts from FBI Strzok ... stop with the perpetual liberal blindness

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 12:01 PM
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Who was in charge of firing them during this time if they didn't comply? This is where the narrative falls apart. LOL

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 1:44 PM
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Man, sick thread.

Here's the deal. Don't be stupid (I know it's hard), but no one is claiming 35k FBI employees have been harnessed against conservatives. If someone thinks that, just move on - that's silly.

But, a few people breaking bad (left) at the top can get done what they want to get done. What FACTS are there. Actually, I don't think they went bad or were corrupted, but that they had been that way all along.

Comey and HRC. Did you watch his news conference? This is corruption in plain sight. He was even stupid enough to outline many illegal things she did (there were probably more he did not cite) and then ultimately conclude it did not matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghph_361wa0

Strzok and Page. Are you aware of their affair and personal text messages sent over a government phone about keeping Trump from becoming POTUS? Do you know what Strzok's role was at that time? If not, check it out. Again, these are facts - the texts happened and are not disputed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJCLWxRPg_Y

Mueller. Former FBI director and special counsel on Trump. How long and how much spent in an attempt to take Trump down? How many fake set-ups did he pull off to try and trick people into a crime? And, nada as a result of the whole thing. The entire Steele Dossier put forward by the FBI was a COMPLETE FRAUD and they knew it.

...and it goes on and on

Why are you so hung up on "how did it happen?" What we do know is what happened, and what happened is clear through factual evidence that the FBI has many bad apples.

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 1:47 PM
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a circle jerk.

Also, political positions within government such as DAs, the DOJ, etc, are filled with people who refuse to prosecute crimes by commies, but will spare no resource when going after anyone to the right of Mao. The grunts in the FBI figure out very quickly that they'll get no kudos by going after the wrong type of people.

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Posted: May 6, 2021, 1:54 PM
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Please DO NOT go on a hiatus after being embarrassed on here again.

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