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FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 12:00 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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I think it should say
Oct 16, 2017, 12:03 PM
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"Placekicking options are open" meaning become more reliable in kicking or just go for it. As many know placekicking is not a spot college teams build depth. Scholarships simply aren't used that way. We do not have the ability like the NFL to go sign a proven kicker, it sort of is what it is.
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Asst Coach [847]
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Re: I think it should say
Oct 16, 2017, 12:07 PM
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We have had open tryouts before... some soccer players have won the job in the past....
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Offensive Star [321]
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Re: I think it should say
Oct 16, 2017, 12:13 PM
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Isn't that how Donald Igwebuike got the job back in the day?
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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Yes, but statistically speaking
Oct 16, 2017, 12:20 PM
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we have had two good kickers come from the Soccer team in the last 36 years. It can be done but not likely. It's not a seamless transition. Also to note, back then they kicked off of a tee.
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Valley Legend [12102]
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Re: Yes, but statistically speaking
Oct 16, 2017, 12:31 PM
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Back then their were no roster limits and scholarship limits were higher. We are maxed out at both. Kicker has to come from within.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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The whole scholarship argument
Oct 16, 2017, 12:56 PM
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I by no means dismiss the sticking points caused by the scholarship limits, but I think EVEN SO, it's philosophically shortsighted to give in to that so easily. Quite obviously, not having a reliable FG kicker can lose games, and just a game or two here or there can make the difference in a season.
But it's more than that - think of all the less obvious - almost "hidden" costs to that. Kickoffs, touchbacks, decisions about punting/going/for it/field position/clock management considerations, etc. that emanate from knowing you can't rely on your kicker. I certainly realize that it's dang-near axiomatic that you can't make PKs such a scholarship priority that you hurt your overall team, so it has to be a balance it, of course.
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Orange Blooded [2426]
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I'm sure they can find a walk on that is better than 39%,,if
Oct 16, 2017, 9:26 PM
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he is better than Spence Kick Spence off team to maintain roster #
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Orange Phenom [14601]
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The kid isn't getting cut. This isn't the NFL.***
Oct 17, 2017, 8:51 AM
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Orange Immortal [65180]
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Re: Isn't that right, Obed?
Oct 16, 2017, 12:31 PM
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Obed
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Thank you for tagging me, my friend.
Oct 16, 2017, 12:43 PM
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Yes, that was many moons ago, but Coach Ford asked me if I had ever kicked an American Football and I said "Does the goat not also dine on caviar if placed in front of him?" He said "I don't know what that means but let's go talk to Coach Ibrahim."
The rest is history.
Jah Bless
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Orange Immortal [65180]
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Was it Ford, or Pell?***
Oct 16, 2017, 1:16 PM
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TigerNet Immortal [176659]
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Yes***
Oct 16, 2017, 1:16 PM
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Re: I think it should say
Oct 16, 2017, 1:44 PM
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The commentators said what happened on one of the kicks. His plant foot was too close to the ball, and he pulled it. Maybe he can just work on mechanics.
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Clemson Icon [24765]
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Hopefully, they have a better 4 down plan than kicking
Oct 16, 2017, 12:10 PM
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field goals we know we won't make.
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Game Day Hero [4558]
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Kicking game is key is close games
Oct 16, 2017, 3:44 PM
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and right now we don't really have a reliable kicker
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Legend [6933]
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Rival Killer [2852]
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Can Skalski hit a 40 yard FG?***
Oct 16, 2017, 12:05 PM
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Orange Blooded [2487]
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With him, have more about Kick-offs than FGs***
Oct 16, 2017, 4:26 PM
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Orange Blooded [2487]
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have heard***
Oct 16, 2017, 4:26 PM
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 12:12 PM
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It was just the misses to me Friday. they we'rent even close. realy bad kicks.
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Orange Immortal [67871]
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Thank you, Coach***
Oct 16, 2017, 12:14 PM
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GO TIGERS!!
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Commissioner [1202]
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Simple solution: go for it or pooch punt with QB pin deep
Oct 16, 2017, 12:15 PM
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That's probably our best option right now until we find a solution. Maybe skalaski will try and kick. Heck let's let Wilkins try haha.
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Orange Blooded [3769]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 12:17 PM
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One would think Spiers has some fg kicking experience
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Recruit [92]
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Spiers
Oct 17, 2017, 5:53 PM
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He handled all kicking in high school. Straight on placekicker, old school style. Even changed shoes to kick.
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Head Coach [986]
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Is our play caller on the chopping block, too?***
Oct 16, 2017, 12:22 PM
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Orange Blooded [2111]
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you're dumb
Oct 16, 2017, 3:45 PM
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post is dumb
therefore you're dumb
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Trainer [35]
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How are the snaps and holds looking?
Oct 16, 2017, 12:24 PM
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Heugel missed 2 FG and an extra point in 3 games this year too. I haven't gone back to the film to look closely. Just asking???
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Paw Master [16403]
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Snaps haven't been perfect, but Will Swinney has done well.
Oct 16, 2017, 1:05 PM
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Huegel was never automatic, but made some really great clutch kicks last year for us. And even though he was struggling, his misses usually were pretty good looking kicks.
Spence just has some major problems that I just can't see getting better. His kicks have gotten worse.
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All-TigerNet [5919]
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Re: Snaps haven't been perfect, but Will Swinney has done well.
Oct 16, 2017, 1:50 PM
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If Will Swinney is placing the ball an inch or two from where the kicker is expecting it to be?
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Orange Immortal [64973]
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Coach Ibrahim is rolling in his grave.
Oct 16, 2017, 12:33 PM
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He's saying, "Just poach the soccer team!"
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Recruit [90]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
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I bet #42 can kick it.
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Offensive Star [333]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 1:32 PM
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Offensive Star [333]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 1:33 PM
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She is at Clemson now right? Maybe, just maybe, she has a year of eligibility left. Ha.
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Varsity [207]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 1:44 PM
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Hunter needs another job.
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Mascot [22]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 2:07 PM
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I was thinking the same thing! I know he was a back up punter… Has anybody seen #13 try through the uprights?
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Standout [234]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 1:50 PM
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I think it is a case of nerves and more mental than anything else. I'm sure they have examined the whole snap hold kick operation to see if it is clean. I know from experience that anything that throws off the timing will likely end in a miss. If the holder's hand gets in the way it will likely cause the ball to fly wide right with a lot of spin. I think the open date and maybe a chance to work with his kicking coach(maybe Dan Orner in Charlotte?) might help him make the adjustment if it's mechanical or mental. Best thing that could happen is he keeps the job and hits his kicks against GT and gains confidence. I'm pulling for him!
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 8:03 PM
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Losing Huegel for the year was very unexpected, but hopefully they can get things straightened out over the break...Its not like Spence was in high pressure situations ie no last second attempts, so Im guessing he just needs some good reps to build chemistry/improve mechanics with the holder and the rest of the special teams unit...maybe they can find a good way to simulate game situation reps...
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Freshman [0]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 2:07 PM
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OPEN Kicking tryouts have been held in the past several times. Early 80's where yes both Donald Igge and Obed made the team and went onto successful NFL careers.
In 86 and 87, open tryouts were held for punter. I know since I was one who tried out and made it to last cut. Bill Speirs (dad of current punter Will Speirs) won the job then left Clemson for a very successful baseball career.
I knew kicking would cost us a game and it is just more than the miss kicks.
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Letterman [284]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 2:51 PM
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Last year my son had a friend who tried out and he hit multiple 50yd field goals. The kid felt really good about his chances. Coaches came back and said not enough separation to allow a walk on. My son could not believe it because he watched him kick multiple times.
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 3:28 PM
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The kicking game cost us Friday night, so maybe they should carry a FEW walk ons with experience.
His kicks have not even looked good.
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Orange Blooded [2355]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 3:38 PM
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Boy we had it made with Cat Man!
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Commissioner [981]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 4:02 PM
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What about the holder? Should be open too!!
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Orange Blooded [2581]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 4:18 PM
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I guess he'll play whoever seems to be best able to kick. Appears options are limited. Kickers can be game changers when the O is struggling, as we found out last game.
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National Champion [7389]
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Kickers are strange birds.
Oct 16, 2017, 4:28 PM
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They can become head cases very easily, and they can also find a trigger to self correct and go on an amazing streak.
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Mascot [22]
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Orange Blooded [2469]
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Is Groomes the left footer from Daniel?***
Oct 16, 2017, 7:51 PM
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Orange Blooded [2841]
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Re: Is Groomes the left footer from Daniel?***
Oct 16, 2017, 8:36 PM
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Yes, that's him
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Trainer [46]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says...
Oct 16, 2017, 8:01 PM
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...placekicking tryouts will be held in the spring, since the current kicker is 100% ready to play.
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Orange Blooded [2841]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says...
Oct 16, 2017, 8:37 PM
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Your posts definitely aren't played out at all, my feathered friend. Keep trying and maybe you'll get some laughs eventually.
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Orange Blooded [2282]
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You don't seem to aware that..
Oct 17, 2017, 6:16 PM
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we have BT Potter, from South Pointe in Rock Hill, one of the best place kickers in the country, coming in next year, so that problem should be solved next year, so NO, the tryouts are for this year.
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Mascot [22]
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Respect or lack of
Oct 16, 2017, 8:24 PM
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New inconsistent snapper and new holder did not do Greg any favors early on and contributed to his early misses. Spence is a red shirt Jr that got a scholarship right out of high school. Not sure what coaches saw back then but he was beat out by a walk-on and apparently never had much talent or can’t handle the pressure. This is what happens when you don’t treat every position with respect. It eventually comes back to bite you. Next man up. Go Groomes.
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1st Rounder [614]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 8:58 PM
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Ok to be honest I didn't read all 4 pages of this but isn't Skalski also a kind of capable kicker?
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 9:31 PM
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Dabo needs to call Danny Ford, and get the number of the soccer coach, anyone ever hear of Obid Airir?
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All-TigerNet [5820]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 16, 2017, 9:35 PM
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Didnt see this mentioned anywhere but we have a really good kicker coming in next year too...
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Recruit [92]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 17, 2017, 5:56 PM
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I know a student enrolled at Clemson now that went to another D1 school as a PK. Did not like the school and transferred to Clemson.
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National Champion [8033]
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Re: FB Update: Swinney says placekicking spot is open
Oct 17, 2017, 6:30 PM
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Can said student do the following:
1) Walk
2) Chew gum
3) Do both at same time
If so please have said student report to Coach Pearman immediately!!!!!!
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