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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:00 PM
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2025 is setting up to be quite a ride. Especially if Antonio, Capehart, and big Tre decide to return for one last ride.
We may need to grab a LB out of the portal, but other than that we appear to be quite loaded at most positions.
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:01 PM
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That's similar to the D we just had though.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Dabo has a plan. Sit back, relax, and enjoy.
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:05 PM
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Clemson Icon [24751]
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Re: Dabo has a plan. Sit back, relax, and enjoy.
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:06 PM
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He had a plan this past season as well.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Correct. Which is why we won the conference and made the playoffs
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Lol?
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National Champion [7909]
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last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:28 PM
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bowl games
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Clemson Conqueror [11115]
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
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Dec 28, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Who gives a #### what the conference does? I care about 1 team and that is Clemson. I don't understand why some you act like those sec homers pulling for the conference. Just stop it already.
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
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Dec 28, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Being the ACC conference champion is a great thing. So much better and different than coots tugging one $EC coat tails and bragging about UGA & Texas abd Bama and others..
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
Dec 28, 2024, 9:55 PM
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We won our conference, which was our way into into the CFP. Then we had a real chance of tying Texas on the road in the 4th against a Texas team that could end up being the national champion. I know the team isn’t where we want it to be yet, but they improved drastically from last year and next year should be better than this year. All we can do is have faith that the right decisions will be made in the off season to fix the issues we had. Yelling at each other here and putting down the team isn’t going help anything.
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Head Coach [948]
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
Dec 28, 2024, 10:24 PM
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Correct, but I think some critical analysis is still warranted. On offense, we will go only as far as Cade takes us. As of now I haven't seen any definitive announcement that he will be back. I think he returns, but if he leaves teams rarely make a run with a first year starter (T-Law being an exception, not the rule). WR is talented but lacks depth, OL improved this year but was average overall and will be breaking in new starters. LB depth is a real weakness but Sammy/Woodard is a good starting point, but again no depth. DE lacks quality depth, even with the incoming transfer. Who knows what we have at RB, behind Mafah it's a guess. We never saw meaningful snaps for anyone outside Haynes and he's injured. Big picture: we undersigned in HS recruiting and our roster is a mess. 2025 could be better, The ACC is hot garbage, and we got issues to correct.
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Starter [258]
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
Dec 29, 2024, 12:43 AM
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In terms of QBs, having Cade back would be ideal; however, there have been plenty of teams (particularly in the last decade) that have made runs with a first year starting QB.
2010: Auburn (national champions) - Cam Newton (Jr. - Only had 12 pass attempts prior to that year)
2013: FSU (national champions) - Jameis Winston (Fr.)
2014: Ohio St. (national champions) - JT Barrett (Fr.) and Cardale Jones (Soph. - Only had 2 pass attempts prior to that year)
2016: Alabama (runner-up national champions) - Jalen Hurts (Fr.)
2017: Alabama (national champions) - Tua Tagovailoa (Fr. - Though he only filled in for Hurts at times)
2018: Clemson (national champions) - Trevor Lawrence (Fr.)
2020: Alabama (national champions) - Mac Jones (Jr. - Only spot started for Tua in 2019 prior to being a full-time starter in 2020)
Vizzina would fall into that camp of an unknown talent coming into the season, but it's not as if new starters have not had runs for teams in years prior.
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Head Coach [948]
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
Dec 29, 2024, 10:29 PM
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Fair points. I don't think anyone is comparing Vizzina to T-Law. I thinks it's fair to acknowledge we will be starting a new RB as well. Additionally, this past year was the first in several where our offense actually started to gel. Anythings possible, but a new QB, new RB, new DC (hopefully), and a reworked O-Line isnt the best recipe for a Natty run. Anything is possible however.
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Starter [258]
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Re: last minute field in a conference champ for a conference getting ripped apart in
Dec 29, 2024, 11:11 PM
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Well, in terms of RBs and those same examples, only 2013 FSU and 2020 Alabama started the year with a returning starting RB. The RB position is fairly interchangeable hence why you see it devalued in the NFL. Those teams did have returning starting WRs though, which we will have in quality and quantity.
I can’t speak to whether those teams had returning O-lines or a new DC. However, given Coach Luke’s success in getting the best out of his offensive lines, I would believe he would be able to develop any new starting line combination to produce good results. And plenty of examples have shown a new DC voice can yield positive results immediately (BV is an easy example).
Long post short. College sports changes every year and moreso now with the transfer portal and NIL. Nearly every team will be starting new players or coaches at key positions. The recipe I have seen work is when teams have time to find their identity early in the season and grow into championship teams.
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Clemson Icon [24751]
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I dont trust Dabo anymore.
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:30 PM
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I know some of you blindly trust him, but the last four years have degraded the trust I used to have in him.
I hope he can earn that trust back.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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I'm sure Dabo is losing sleep at night
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:46 PM
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Knowing that some dude on an internet forum is losing trust in him.
You and I are infinitely unimportant, my friend. Here's the facts: Dabo is so good at his job that he has still managed to win the conference twice in the last four years in what many would describe as the "down" years after which the dynasty has fallen.
Dabo has a proven track record far above and beyond any other coach in the history of our football program. It's not even close. He will make the necessary staff changes and Clemson will once again win the conference next season and compete in our 8th playoff.
And the beat goes on.
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Re: I'm sure Dabo is losing sleep at night
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:44 PM
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CBB can rest easy though……🤣
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Orange Blooded [2486]
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Re: I'm sure Dabo is losing sleep at night
Dec 28, 2024, 9:34 PM
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I would like to see CBB win tge ACC Tournament 1 time. Clemson is the only charter member of the ACC to not win it which is sad to say.
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Re: I dont trust Dabo anymore.
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:47 PM
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I bet Dabo does not have anyfucks to give about your trust
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CU Guru [1518]
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Re: I dont trust Dabo anymore.
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:02 PM
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If you could only see the irony of claiming others blindly follow a coach.
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yeah, but one of those coaches is competent.
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:08 PM
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and one is mediocre.
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Re: I dont trust Dabo anymore.
Dec 28, 2024, 3:50 PM
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I know some of you blindly trust him, but the last four years have degraded the trust I used to have in him.
I hope he can earn that trust back.
When it comes to Dabo and Football maybe you should take the "Mother of the Groom" approach - wear beige, sit in a corner and keep out of it. You bring nothing but negativity. BTW, Dabo doesn't care about your trust.
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Re: I dont trust Dabo anymore.
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Dec 28, 2024, 5:00 PM
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Ok. Not a top 4 team, but let's not be greedy. Clemson is RELEVANT... something coot only dream of being.
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Re: I dont trust Dabo anymore.
Dec 28, 2024, 9:40 PM
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It’s funny how everyone here talks trash about the state of our program and Dabo’s decisions until you point them out. Guess they have to take their frustration out on someone.
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Dynasty Maker [3347]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:14 PM
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I disagree. You added a D end that was better than what we had. You get Brown a offseason to improve. Another offseason for Parker and Woods. All they need is to move Barnes back to nickle. Find a a good safety in the portal and the D will be greatly improved next season.
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:46 PM
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That is a help, but we lost Barrett Carter too. I am not saying he played that well, but you have to wonder how good the next man up will be too.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Based on his performance this season
Dec 28, 2024, 1:48 PM
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It is very possible this is an addition by subtraction scenario.
I have never seen a player so hyped up that consistently got whooped. Over and over.
Barrett is a tremendous person but had an extremely disappointing season based on his potential.
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Head Coach [948]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:23 PM
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....and get rid of Wes
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Athletic Dir [1151]
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Re: Clemson is coming
Dec 29, 2024, 10:19 AM
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What do you suggest ########
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Letterman [154]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Did you not just watch how bad our defense was?
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Have faith, my friend
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Dabo has already made his decision. Just a matter of announcing at the right time.
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Orange Beast [6193]
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Re: Have faith, my friend
Dec 28, 2024, 1:49 PM
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I agree
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Game Changer [1905]
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Haha doubtful. In the age of the transfer portal,
Dec 28, 2024, 4:38 PM
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you announce these changes ASAP so players will come play for your upgraded staff. It will be announced as soon as the deal is done. No announcement means there is no deal. We don’t even know if Wes will be replaced.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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You must be new around here.
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Dec 28, 2024, 4:41 PM
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There is a coaching code. Don't announce changes before the holidays, the New Year, or the bowl season. Especially if your new hire has yet to coach their bowl game.
Not sure why I'm even having to defend this. Dabo has a clear track record with these decisions.
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Game Changer [1905]
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Zac Alley was just announced as DC for WVU.
Dec 28, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Is it the new year yet? Looks like they broke the code.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Oklahoma just played their bowl game.
Dec 28, 2024, 6:52 PM
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Next question.
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Game Changer [1905]
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You said the code says you cant announce before
Dec 28, 2024, 6:53 PM
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the new year.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Buddy, use logic and reason.
Dec 28, 2024, 6:58 PM
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If a team completes their bowl game before the new year and a deal is finalized, they will announce.
If a team's bowl game is after the New Year, then they'll wait. But no true professional is going to announce intentions to leave until all games have been played.
It's an unspoken code whether you're a coach or work in an office. You finish out the season before jumping ship. Most likely Dabo's candidate is still competing, hence the lack of an announcement.
Riley wasn't announced until well after bowl season has concluded.
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Game Changer [1905]
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You should tell Washington State about the code,
Dec 28, 2024, 7:13 PM
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seems they had no idea.
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Paw Master [17121]
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We may keep the citadel from reaching their season high rushing yrds***
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Campus Hero [14033]
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Probably not
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Since we don't play the Citadel next year, but your little joke was funny anyway. I mean not haha funny but you tried.
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Paw Warrior [4812]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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If Gideon Davidson has a breakout freshman year, this offense could average 500 ypg. With an offense that good, it will take a lot of pressure off of the defense.
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Re: Clemson is coming
Dec 28, 2024, 1:05 PM
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If the offense can get on the field enough due to our opponents rushing all day on us and getting over 50% of their 3rd down conversions.
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Ultimate Tiger [33808]
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Loved that quote from Stephone Anthony***
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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And boy oh boy was he right!
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:14 PM
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We are witnessing the greatest run in Clemson history. And we probably won't come close to anything like this ever again. Yet people still complain.
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Hall of Famer [9063]
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
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Dec 28, 2024, 1:48 PM
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A lot of the noise is coot and leghumper subversion
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Hall of Famer [9063]
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
Dec 28, 2024, 1:49 PM
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But yeah, some are whiny and have no patience or expect titles every year.
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
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Well UCE…more than an ACC title in a very DOWN year for the Conference. I wanna be toe -toe w UGA, Ohio St , Texas. Remember after his 2nd title, DABO said , “ The Best is Yet to Come.” Well right now he ain’t even close, unless he hires a Hard Charging DC who can also Recruit.
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If Clemson is a stock, buy all you can right now.
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Dec 28, 2024, 9:38 PM
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LOL.
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National Champion [7902]
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We're not in any "Run" now
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:06 PM
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Not anymore. Any semblance of a "run" ended the moment that DJ Uweungalalala became Dabo's replacement for Trevor Lawrence. And right now we don't have a coaching staff capable of developing talent to that level, even if we had $100 billion in NIL money. Do you really think Porkchop is going to turn Delmonte "Tomato Can" Capeheart into Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins? He's another 5-Star who was gonna shake the world and hasn't ended up being a factor. Our front four on defense is a sieve.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Take your meds and relax, bub.
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:09 PM
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8 conference titles in 10 years is the literal definition of a "run." Seven playoff appearances. The fact that he has done this with DJ and "pork chop" further solidifies how good of a coach he is.
He will make the necessary changes. He always does, even if many of us feel he's a little slow on the trigger.
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National Champion [7902]
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Lay off the booze and the happy ending massage specialists...
Dec 28, 2024, 8:23 PM
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and get a clue. We are nowhere NEAR where we were 6-8 years ago, ESPECIALLY on defense. We have some WRs who can play with anybody and a QB who is improving but overall behind in development over where he ought to be at this point. Hopefully we can maximize their talents next season and the defensive staff is shown the door. They are terrible. They aren't getting the potential out of anyone on our defense.
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Re: We're not in any
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With ya Flying Tiger….I don’t know what games some of these people were watching this year. 🤷🏼♂️
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:27 PM
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Were 4 years of mediocrity and counting. He misfired on offensive and defensive hires. The o-line was better but average. We have no idea who we have at RB, maybe a converted WR. Our LB depth is thin, as is DE even with a transfer. Starting QB is good, but once again depth is an issue. Big picture, our roster is horribly mismanaged and we just undersigned with this years recruiting class. Can 2025 be good? Yes...but I first need to see some changes.
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
Dec 28, 2024, 7:25 PM
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We are in the upper 5th percentile in Win % the past four years. Your understanding of the term mediocre is weak, and it's not really a tough concept to grasp.
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Re: And boy oh boy was he right!
Dec 28, 2024, 9:12 PM
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We've had this disagreement on another post as well...but here it goes. Over the last 4 seasons, aside from winning the title in the worst conference in college football, what have we accomplished? The conference title is great, but if we can win it while having DJU as QB for most of a season it can't be that meaningful. My point...zero playoff wins (the game against LSU was the end of the 2019 season). Being the biggest kid on the block in the worst conference in football is laughable if everytime we go outside that conference we get our tails whipped. It's the same old cliche problem with the ACC except in past years Clemson would rise up and be the one team to fight the sterotype, recent times weve fallen in line with every one else. It should be pretty telling that the ACC comprised the 2 lowest seeded teams in the playoff, no top 4 seeds, and has no teams remaining in the hunt for a title.
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9-3. 0-1 right out of the gate again.***
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Freshman [2]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 2:22 PM
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The defensive backfield, everyone who plays at these positions, become fearless tacklers. Even if LBs or DEs set the edge, DBs poor tackling results in more yards gained. Teams will limit our # of possessions with rushing plays. Our offense will have to be impeccable every opportunity to score enough points to win. Status quo tantamount to a 2025 record of .500 or less.
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Game Changer [1649]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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All we need is a defensive coordinator..
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Already in the works
Dec 28, 2024, 2:39 PM
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Just waiting on the ink to dry before making a final announcement.
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Re: Still waiting on Cades decision***
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The defense needs overhauling first.
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Dec 28, 2024, 9:58 PM
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Defense has fallen off a cliff. We used to be top 10, but we are 37th in yards per game and 80th in rushing yards per game.
All while playing in a weak-ass conference.
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 10:00 PM
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OP sounds like the famous coots saying…just wait till next year🤦♂️
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Head Coach [948]
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Re: Clemson is coming
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Dec 28, 2024, 10:17 PM
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It's funny you say this. I have posted a couple times being critical of just how impressive our 10 wins this season really is. Most the responses I have gotten (beside being called "coot") always revolves around, "Just how many 10 win season does South Carolina have?" My answer is always, "who cares?" Any time we have to justify our season by comparing ourselves to South Carolina should be an immediate indication that our season wasn't that good.
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