Re: Cata and Jimmy

tigermanac® · 2024-08-28T19:43:04.521Z

What do you attribute to the rise in autism? Now approximately 1:35 kids.

Honestly, humans have spent the better part of a century cheating mother nature, and honestly winning, for the most part.

Very few people realize that the reason humans lived (on AVERAGE) like 28-30 years forever, until the past century, has very little to do with keeping people alive longer, but mostly from preventing kids from dying. All of medical science has contributed to adults living perhaps 10 years longer, into old age. The big boost in average life expectancy is children NOT DYING, and this is directly due to vaccines stopping polio, mumps, rubella, measles, smallpox, tetanus, and many other childhood killers.

500 years ago, or 250 years ago, if you made it to your 20th birthday, your odds of living to 60yo is similar to today. BUT, your odds were literally 50/50 of making it to 20yo. This is why people had 6, 8, 10+ kids. They expected half to die before adulthood. Today no one expects children to die. We think they're the healthier than adults, and that's just not the case historically. And this is why they are targeted for vaccines, because keeping them alive has the greatest impact on life expectancy.

Over time, generations, 50-100 years, this leads to an older and older overall population, as the need to have kids shrinks, and people live longer and most make it to adulthood. And we're at that point where population will decline in the future as the older people die off, and very few adults are having children on the same scale as in the past, as odds are now far greater they will reach adulthood themselves.

Autism is just an outgrowth of this. We have thrown a stick in the spokes of the wheels of natural selection for a very long time now. It's likely a once rare condition that has become more pronounced as kids with it were probably selected in the past to die with it more frequently, before vaccines and modern healthcare. Some disease likely selected for autistic children in the past. Could have been measles, mumps, smallpox, no one knows because those diseases don't exist in any real numbers today. And like was said earlier, we may have just gotten better at detecting and diagnosing it.

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I think a lot of what you have said is very true

Aug 28, 2024, 5:26 PM

That said, I think that diagnosing and awareness of the issue has dramatically increased. We have more data now, and ability to share it. We dont have files in a cabiet we have online health records that can be accessed by providers, teachers, and parents, etc. My mother was a teacher in one of those BHE/D classrooms in the 90s, 2000s, and later. And the class size was about 10~15 for a middle school of about 800-900 kids. Unfortunately, a lot of these kids that were in those classes came from low income situations where their families could not provide a better solution for them. It was what was available to mostly low income parents that battled these challenges. Also, the kids assigned to that class had a lot of the physical indicators that were more easily diagnosed/ spotted.

I am currently trying to help my son who is learning to work with his mental health challenge. I have spent 4 hours just this week talking to insurance providers and care teams to help make sure the resources are in place to help him. My wife has spent another 6~8 hours just this week working with his care team at school and professional healthcare providers. This did not exist when my mother started her teaching career. It did get more involved during later part of her 30 years in the school system. I think this is a good thing because there are a lot of kids that fall on the spectrum, and their struggles are not so easily recognized. But the more data is collected, the easier it is to spot and to start trying to get involved and help. But if I had to guess, if my son went to middle school in the early 90s, he would have suffered through in school suspension before being expelled. He would not have been placed in my mothers class. He scored to high on all of the tests (95% ). No physical visible genetic traits. He does not present those things. But there are physical movements, tendencies and traits that once you know what to look for, you start to really see. But to continue on with the example of if my son was raised 30 years ago, I likely would have intervened right before explosion and found an alternate home school option. There would have been even more frustration inside the family because of the lack of info regarding "why cant my kid get it". I dont understand what we are doing wrong/ etc. But my family would have tried to handle it internally as best we could because we would have the financial resource to do it (no need for mom to work). Thats not as easy today.

So with more knowledge of the topic, a increase in pressure from parents to keep their kids in the school system for financial reasons, the number of kids has gone up. I think the kids have always been there. It just comes down to we know more now than we did back then. I think we also as a society tolerate it more now than we did back then. Speaking of those mortality rates, I cant imagine how many kids who suffered from a minor mental issue were beaten to death by their parents for discipline issues. A best seller book, I think it was little house on the parie, there was a chapter in that story that told about a neighbor's kids that was just out right defiant. The father in the book alluded that if he was my kid, I would wear his but out to get him in line. I wonder how many of those kids were just struggling with the fact that they dont have the same brain filters that 90% of us have. They dont mean to be rude. Its just the way their brain is wired to communicate.

Anyway, I just wanted to contribute to the conversation. I know I have a lot to learn. I am hopeful that others that read take a second to take in some info. It may help you have some understanding if you are on the outside looking in at a situation that involves mental health issues.

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Increased ability to recognize and diagnose the disease.***

So a school district that 15 years ago had

Are you saying that an increased ability to recognize and diagnose the disease

I dont believe that is the reason.

Why not?

Maybe 1965. But not in 2009***

My scenario is much more likely in the last 15 years than an environmental

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this, and criteria were somewhat broadened***

Yeah, what would you know?***

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This and...

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He answered like a normal human so I responded***

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More autistic parents crossing the southern border

More evidence you guys are simply parody accounts***

At some point with MAGA you have to turn off your brain and just start

Their minds either only work in the memes of their grievances or...

It's the covid vaccines!!!!!

I think a lot of what you have said is very true

Are the rates the same

1 in 145 in sub-saharan Africa. 1 in 36 in the US.

So what's your theory?

Probably. It's a strange marriage

If I had this opinion.

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The data isn't there to reach that conclusion

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possibly you can point us in the proper direction Professor, not seeing anything

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I think the burdon of proof on on you here pal.***

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Usually how this works

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What extensive research have YOU done on it?

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Eh, no

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You've been challenged to show where you got this from...

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You're mistaking burden of proof for laziness, and probably intentionally so

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In fact, I have a new theory

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I dare you to watch this and not catch Autism

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How do you know for sure?

Nah nah nah, don't do that ####

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Couldnt tell you the cause, but all I know is that

Awesome work everyone, top 5 worst threads of all time

You're really that shocked with this place?

Thank goodness we have the Circle Society to keep it real here.***

FAKE FACE!!!1!***

So Jimmy basically covered it...

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You're begging the question.

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Simple answer. Democratic parents cause autism.

I change my mind. It's chemtrails.***

Not gonna lie. Even for this place I was startled at the number of posters who

I assure you, they didn't believe in chemtrails until (insert politician) did