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Dynasty Maker [3241]
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The best way to read Trump 2.0....
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Mar 27, 2025, 8:36 AM
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Everything that has been done so far is to maximize Trump's power. Not Congress. Not the GOP. Not "the people"....but TRUMP's power.
DOGE is not about efficiency, but about control. ICE is not being asked to round up illegals. They're being asked to attack any immigrant who has expressed political views that Trump deems inappropriate. The tariffs are used as weapons for Trump to punish his perceived enemies and dole out favors to his friends. The attacks on universities & the media are all about Trump settling scores with his perceived enemies. The browbeating of Europe & Ukraine, in favor of Russia, is to set the US on a path where Trump decides who we align with.
I think they are aching for a showdown over Impoundment with SCOTUS, and birthright citizenship.
I think if you look at Trump 2.0 through the "maximize Trump's power" prism, then his moves are fairly predictable.
So, when we get to 2027, and the House has flipped back to the Democrats (which is very likely to happen) and he's lost his case on impoundment in the courts....at that point, we'll start to find out if we're going to remain a democracy or if we're going to slide into dictatorship. In Trump 1.0, there were people around him that were trying to limit his power, to minimize the damage he wanted to inflict. In Trump 2.0, there's none of that. It's all kooks, charlatans, con artists, and weirdos. So, when Trump actually has to absorb some losses that limit his power....will he accept it, or will he take that final dark turn?
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Paw Master [16206]
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Re: The best way to read Trump 2.0....
Mar 27, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Everything that has been done so far is to maximize Trump's power. Not Congress. Not the GOP. Not "the people"....but TRUMP's power.
DOGE is not about efficiency, but about control. ICE is not being asked to round up illegals. They're being asked to attack any immigrant who has expressed political views that Trump deems inappropriate. The tariffs are used as weapons for Trump to punish his perceived enemies and dole out favors to his friends. The attacks on universities & the media are all about Trump settling scores with his perceived enemies. The browbeating of Europe & Ukraine, in favor of Russia, is to set the US on a path where Trump decides who we align with.
I think they are aching for a showdown over Impoundment with SCOTUS, and birthright citizenship.
I think if you look at Trump 2.0 through the "maximize Trump's power" prism, then his moves are fairly predictable.
So, when we get to 2027, and the House has flipped back to the Democrats (which is very likely to happen) and he's lost his case on impoundment in the courts....at that point, we'll start to find out if we're going to remain a democracy or if we're going to slide into dictatorship. In Trump 1.0, there were people around him that were trying to limit his power, to minimize the damage he wanted to inflict. In Trump 2.0, there's none of that. It's all kooks, charlatans, con artists, and weirdos. So, when Trump actually has to absorb some losses that limit his power....will he accept it, or will he take that final dark turn?
Without getting into the weeds over each of Trump's actions, I'll take on the first allegation. ICE has been actively deporting illegal aliens with criminal records. Please provide the link detailing the political views of MS 13 and Tren de Aragua.
Trump is at the zenith of his popularity. Are you honestly worried that when he is less popular and facing more political opposition instead of increasing popular and political support, that Trump will try to become a dictator or that if he were to try to become one, that he would be in a position to survive such an attempt?
If he's going to do the dictator thing, now is the time to strike the fire, not later when more people are opposed to various policies and he is less popular.
When more than half of the country already does not favor Trump, that is not a prescription for holding power whether at the ballot box or by force.There will be a new President in 2028, if not before.
It's gonna be ok. It might well be very bumpy and unpredictable, but Trump is in no position to be a successful dictator. He will be in an even less favorable position later in his term.If he were to try this, he would either be removed or eliminated. The military is not a monolithic community.
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Dynasty Maker [3241]
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Re: The best way to read Trump 2.0....
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Mar 27, 2025, 12:37 PM
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>>When more than half of the country already does not favor Trump, that is not a prescription for holding power whether at the ballot box or by force.There will be a new President in 2028, if not before.
It's gonna be ok. It might well be very bumpy and unpredictable, but Trump is in no position to be a successful dictator. He will be in an even less favorable position later in his term.If he were to try this, he would either be removed or eliminated. The military is not a monolithic community.
I sure hope you're right. I guess I didn't mention it explicitly in my first post. But we already have the example where Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election. He never was held to account for that. And most Republicans believe his lies about that election. So, when I worry about a turn toward dictatorship, that moment in history is seared in my mind.
We're going to have to trust that either he or the people around him - who are currently mostly as crazy as he is - will be willing to relinquish power when the time comes. I'm getting a bad vibe around the likelihood of that happening.
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TLDR ... Welcome to Day 66 of making America great again ... part deux***
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No mental problems here***
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Mar 27, 2025, 9:35 AM
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Orange Phenom [14120]
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What is something you've never heard from your doctor; Alex?***
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Clutch your B-Bs... Your Derangement Syndrome is showing.***
Mar 27, 2025, 9:47 AM
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Orange Phenom [14120]
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MAGA is the saddest group of devotees in US political history
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Mar 27, 2025, 10:36 AM
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In 4 years when you guys can't readily get your soul quenching daily dose of donny dumazzery; you'll probably all move to communes where you can't support one another
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110%er [3884]
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Re: The best way to read Trump 2.0....
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Mar 27, 2025, 10:22 AM
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How is Trump going to become a dictator if the democrats control the house? In my mind he would have to use military force, not just against government officials but against the American people. I’d be willing to bet that at least 95% of Americans would be heavily opposed to the idea of him staying in power longer than 4 years. He would probably end up dead if he tried that ####.
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Game Changer [1938]
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100% of MAGA would support him staying in office
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Mar 27, 2025, 11:59 AM
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more than 4 years.
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110%er [3884]
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Re: 100% of MAGA would support him staying in office
Mar 27, 2025, 12:07 PM
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I know plenty of people that voted for Trump. All my immediate family voted for Trump. My close friends voted for Trump. None of us would be ok with him trying to run again or cancel elections.
Show me any real proof that a large contingent of Trump voters are supporting him trying for a third term.
If he did try that he should get the death penalty.
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Dynasty Maker [3241]
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Re: 100% of MAGA would support him staying in office
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Mar 27, 2025, 12:33 PM
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>>My close friends voted for Trump. None of us would be ok with him trying to run again or cancel elections.
How many of you were "not OK" with him when he lied about the 2020 election and spent 2 months trying to over-turn it?
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Orange Elite [5241]
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Re: 100% of MAGA would support him staying in office
Mar 27, 2025, 1:29 PM
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They were all OK with it and they cheered it on. Then they got really pissy when there was an investigation and perps were subjected to "law and Order". They followed this up by cheering on the blanket pardons for the insurrection that attempted to overturn a democratic election along with hanging elected officials.
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Game Changer [1938]
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MAGA and yourself have a proven track record
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of supporting Trump 100% no matter what. There is no criticism from MAGA on anything, no matter how corrupt or illegal. You may claim now that you wouldn’t be ok with it, but if it comes to pass, you would be right there cheering him on like you always do.
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Orange Phenom [14120]
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Just like he reads by mouthing the words***
Mar 27, 2025, 10:32 AM
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