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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108838]
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-600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 8:44 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/markets/premarkets
The European Union, which was formed for the primary purpose of taking advantage of the United States on TRADE, has been very difficult to deal with. Their powerful Trade Barriers, Vat Taxes, ridiculous Corporate Penalties, Non-Monetary Trade Barriers, Monetary Manipulations, unfair and unjustified lawsuits against Americans Companies, and more, have led to a Trade Deficit with the U.S. of more than $250,000,000 a year, a number which is totally unacceptable. Our discussions with them are going nowhere! Therefore, I am recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union, starting on June 1, 2025. There is no Tariff if the product is built or manufactured in the United States. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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Good.
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May 23, 2025, 8:48 AM
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A buying opportunity.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108838]
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Good luck with that.
May 23, 2025, 8:57 AM
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This one is going to actually hurt. This is something the Fed can't patch up by shifting toxic debt to some shell companies (like Enron accountants did).
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Orange Phenom [14357]
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For Trumps corrupt cabal of market manipulators***
May 23, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Re: Good.
May 23, 2025, 9:18 AM
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Yôu have had plenty of buying opportunities under Trump. I am surprised you still have cash to invest. What have you been waiting on? Throw it all in there.
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Robber: "Gimme all your cash."...NC_Tiger: "New opportunity to fill my wallet!"***
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May 23, 2025, 9:26 AM
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Clearly you don't understand trade deficits but for context, the Qatar bribe....
May 23, 2025, 6:56 PM
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...was 400,000,000 compared to the 250,000,000 he is b*thching to our allies about.
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Ultimate Tiger [33430]
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Re: Clearly you don't understand trade deficits but for context, the Qatar bribe....
May 23, 2025, 7:20 PM
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You don't seem to understand how unfair VAT taxes are to the U.S. of A.
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Re: Clearly you don't understand trade deficits but for context, the Qatar bribe....
May 23, 2025, 9:50 PM
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VAT applies to all "luxury" goods, whether domestic or imported. It's not a bad system, just an alternate system.
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Re: Good.
May 23, 2025, 9:48 PM
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I'm afraid a lot of you newbies don't understand what happens to the market if bond yields settle long-term at 6 or 7%.
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Ultimate Tiger [33349]
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 9:14 AM
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From a business perspective, it may be time for most companies to get lean and defensive until Bernie Trump is out of office.
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 9:16 AM
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That's CNN. That's fake news. The market is really up. We need a Sharpie to correct their fake news.
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 9:17 AM
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Now do you finally see that the world has been living off U.S. tax payer $s and U.S. debt? Even the Stock Market loves woeful spending. Ask yourself, if tariffs are so bad, why does the rest of the world have tariffs on U.S. goods? Without tariffs, VAT taxes and other fees on U.S. products, the EU couldn't survive. There is enough that needs to be done here without paying for the world. The "worm is turning" and we will survive.
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Ring of Honor [22369]
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The Bond Market suggests the REST of the World funds US debt.
May 23, 2025, 9:41 AM
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But they might be looking for better returns and alternative investments?
MAGA bros better be careful what they ask for?
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 10:04 AM
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As to the VAT rant/issue. You do know the VAT is added to nearly every good and service in the EU ? It is NOT just added to USA imports.
It is how those countries envied by all stupid progressives pay for that “free” stuff. On average 63% of each euro earned is taken by the government in some form of tax or fee.
So if Trump thinks he is gonna get them to abolish those VAT’s he is ignorant/stupid. Especially as they say they are ramping up defense spending.
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
May 23, 2025, 9:53 PM
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The VAT is basically the universal sales tax that so many conservatives use to ########## over. Except it's applied to "non-essential" items.
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How did we make 7B Euro in tariffs from EU products vs their 3B Euro from US
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May 23, 2025, 10:58 AM
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products in 2023? How did that happen if they are gouging us and we just let everything come in? How???
People HAVE to stop repeating Trump's talking points as if they are gospel. Not only are they not gospel...they aren't even "lies of omission". Many of them are just plain lies.
VAT tax applies to all products produced, foreign and domestic. How is that unfair to the US?
What are all these fees Trump talks about? Can anyone name one? Just one. Does anyone have a single statistic as to how much in aggregate they cost US manufacturers? Why is this boogeyman cost accepted as truth when no one has produced a single shred of evidence?
EU and US have overall low tariffs between the two trading partners. On average, certainly below 5%. On certain items of economic significance, we will both adjust them. EU charges a 10% tariff on US cars vs our 2.5% tariff on their cars. But the US charges a 25% tariff on EU pickups, which is a huge part of the US market. Fair? Should Europe start a trade war?
This whole thing is pure nonsense and embarrassing.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are-donald-trumps-tariffs-on-the-eu-really-reciprocal
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Re: How did we make 7B Euro in tariffs from EU products vs their 3B Euro from US
May 23, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Europe is robbing us blind, thus saith their lord.
That's really all you need to know.
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Paw Master [16716]
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Exactly. And it is maddening. Completely unfazed when ANY talking point is
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May 23, 2025, 11:50 AM
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debunked. They never come back and say "Well, that's a good point...I really don't know what the 'fees' are that are referenced...and I guess a VAT tax on everyone and everything can't really be considered unfair to the US since it does not at all create an uneven playing surface. Oh, and I guess everyone uses tariffs, us included, to a small amount." That NEVER happens. Heck, they don't even come back and offer counterpoints...you know, a list of "fees" or some explanation as to how VAT taxes are specifically harmful to us. That also NEVER happens. They just move on to the talking point...but they'll come back to this talking point again a little later and completely ignore the previous comments. Like robots. Maddening.
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Re: -600. He opened his mouth again.
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May 23, 2025, 9:20 AM
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I think Trump needs to get in there and do the negotiations himself. The people doing it can't do it. We need the world's best negotiator in there. I am sure he has built solid relationships with these European leaders, so it should be no problem to get things done with his skills and the bond he has built.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108838]
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No offense, but I'd never make a "deal" with him
May 23, 2025, 11:14 AM
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I think to date he's broken more deals than he's made.
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Re: No offense, but I'd never make a "deal" with him
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It's all part of the art of the deal. He is playing long-term chess. He is a genius and borderline a god.
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And the dow was close to being where it was 6 months ago.
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May 23, 2025, 9:22 AM
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So much for that.
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Most Americans problems can be traced to Europe. Especially their immigrants.***
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Re: Most Americans problems can be traced to Europe. Especially their immigrants.***
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And the fact that we have left Jesus as a nation. We need more prayer to fix these problems.
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Re: Most Americans problems can be traced to Europe. Especially their immigrants.***
May 24, 2025, 12:34 AM
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The teachings of Jesus have the solutions to most of the world's problems. Jefferson didn't believe in the divine aspect, but he held all of the parts of the NT directly attributed to Jesus in the highest regard. He edited the NT to remove miracles and the resurrection. The result is an edited "Bible" that is presented to every new congressman and senator.
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It's like he can't go more than 2 wks of being sane...
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May 23, 2025, 12:52 PM
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50% tariffs on EU starting in less than 2 wks is friggin nutz.
Total amateur hour in the White House. It's getting (been) ridiculous.
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why am i reminded of this?
May 23, 2025, 1:23 PM
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Down 110; oh, the horror***
May 23, 2025, 2:35 PM
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Re: Down 110; oh, the horror***
May 23, 2025, 2:50 PM
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Exactly. He is down overall since he is in office and prices on the shelves are going up. He is great. As long as we don't go down too much in the stock market everything is perfect. Trump is a amazing. He is doing a great job.
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T notes are up past 5%.***
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